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biggreen is currently offline  biggreen   United States
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Am installing a 3" exhaust and the long portion of the pipe running down the right side next to the tanks has 2 "flanges" with a 3" rubber or plastic insert. I removed a 2-1/2" system and the PO had a piece of 3" pipe in the flange with the 2-1/2 running through that.
My question is, can I run my 3" pipe directly through this flange with the insert? It fits snugly and makes an excellent hanger. Will this insert melt or burn? I held fire from a lighter to it for 30 seconds or so and it did not melt or even smoke. But I wonder if this is designed to hold up to constant exhaust pipe heat.
Anyone know?

Thanks
Re: Exhaust question [message #145708 is a reply to message #145706] Thu, 06 October 2011 10:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It should be fine. That's how my system has been installed for the past few years per JimK.

George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question [message #145711 is a reply to message #145706] Thu, 06 October 2011 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Oct 6, 2011, at 9:29 AM, R.D. Hart wrote:

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>
> Am installing a 3" exhaust and the long portion of the pipe running down the right side next to the tanks has 2 "flanges" with a 3" rubber or plastic insert. I removed a 2-1/2" system and the PO had a piece of 3" pipe in the flange with the 2-1/2 running through that.
> My question is, can I run my 3" pipe directly through this flange with the insert? It fits snugly and makes an excellent hanger. Will this insert melt or burn? I held fire from a lighter to it for 30 seconds or so and it did not melt or even smoke. But I wonder if this is designed to hold up to constant exhaust pipe heat.
> Anyone know?
>
>
It will hold up just fine. My 3" pipe has been in place through those inserts for many years now and there are no problems with it.


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Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question [message #145783 is a reply to message #145706] Fri, 07 October 2011 01:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The red bubber is a high temp Silicon rubber and can take the heat.
Should anyone need new flange and rubber, we have them in SS metel.

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Re: Exhaust question [message #145880 is a reply to message #145708] Fri, 07 October 2011 21:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GeorgeRud wrote on Thu, 06 October 2011 10:42

It should be fine. That's how my system has been installed for the past few years per JimK.


OK - I'll ask this question. I have my exhaust out and my two support plates and silicone rubber inserts are in good condition. Is there any benefit/advantage to having more than the original two supports? (I can remove the ones from the transmode if I wish to install more than the original two.)

On another note I have JimK's SS exhaust system and it has presented a problem. It looks so good, all shiny, that I almost feel I need to find some way to mount it where it can be seen, not hidden under the coach. <GRIN>


Steve Southworth
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Re: Exhaust question [message #145881 is a reply to message #145880] Fri, 07 October 2011 21:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steve,

No advantage I know of -- if you are putting the system on an early coach, 73/74, you may find that the crossmembers in the area of the bogies have angle attachments that need to be filed down to allow the pipe to clear adequately.

Here is an install I did...

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5817

Dennis

midlf wrote on Fri, 07 October 2011 21:42

GeorgeRud wrote on Thu, 06 October 2011 10:42

It should be fine. That's how my system has been installed for the past few years per JimK.


OK - I'll ask this question. I have my exhaust out and my two support plates and silicone rubber inserts are in good condition. Is there any benefit/advantage to having more than the original two supports? (I can remove the ones from the transmode if I wish to install more than the original two.)

On another note I have JimK's SS exhaust system and it has presented a problem. It looks so good, all shiny, that I almost feel I need to find some way to mount it where it can be seen, not hidden under the coach. <GRIN>



Dennis S
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Memphis TN Metro
Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question [message #145885 is a reply to message #145783] Fri, 07 October 2011 22:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jimk wrote on Fri, 07 October 2011 01:07

The red bubber is a high temp Silicon rubber and can take the heat.
Should anyone need new flange and rubber, we have them in SS metel.

Jim Kanomata
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They are called muffler bearings on Jim's website.
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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question [message #145887 is a reply to message #145885] Fri, 07 October 2011 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AS long as you do it like our kit where the one end is expanded and
the other side slides in, there is no need to have more than 2 muffler
bearing.

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> jimk wrote on Fri, 07 October 2011 01:07
>> The red bubber is a high temp Silicon rubber and can take the heat.
>> Should anyone need new flange and rubber, we have them in SS metel.
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question [message #145894 is a reply to message #145880] Sat, 08 October 2011 01:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll be there soonas I have a small exhaust leak. Why did you choose stainless over aluminized exhaust? I know this debate occurs from time to time but I never remember when I need the stuff.
Larry Davick
Sent from my iPad

On Oct 7, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Steve Southworth <midlf@centurytel.net> wrote:

>
>
> GeorgeRud wrote on Thu, 06 October 2011 10:42
>> It should be fine. That's how my system has been installed for the past few years per JimK.
>
>
> OK - I'll ask this question. I have my exhaust out and my two support plates and silicone rubber inserts are in good condition. Is there any benefit/advantage to having more than the original two supports? (I can remove the ones from the transmode if I wish to install more than the original two.)
>
> On another note I have JimK's SS exhaust system and it has presented a problem. It looks so good, all shiny, that I almost feel I need to find some way to mount it where it can be seen, not hidden under the coach. <GRIN>
> --
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> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question [message #145895 is a reply to message #145894] Sat, 08 October 2011 03:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry,

It depends on how old you are and if you want to be considered a great PO by your GMC's FO (Future Owner).

You've noted that "I never remember when I need the stuff" which may indicate that you have CRS.

CRS is a common condition for those of us of "advancing years." If you are in that group aluminized steel will more than likely last
until all that's safe for you to drive is a walker.

However, if I have mischaracterized you and you are still a "junior citizen" then the stainless steel system would be better just in
case Da Man allows you long tenure on this mortal coil.

Also I ga-ron-tee that if you fit a stainless steel exhaust the FO will be singing your praises around here when you and I are long
gone!

I trust you consider this a reasonable response and helps you resolve your quandary!

Regards,
Rob M.

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I'll be there soonas I have a small exhaust leak. Why did you choose stainless over aluminized exhaust? I know this debate occurs
from time to time but I never remember when I need the stuff.
Larry Davick
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Re: Exhaust question [message #145931 is a reply to message #145706] Sat, 08 October 2011 16:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's a beautiful exhaust! I made my own. 2 flowmasters, 2 10' lenghts of 3" pipe, some clamps and hangers, a sawsall and a mig welder. About $375.
Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question [message #145944 is a reply to message #145894] Sat, 08 October 2011 20:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ljdavick wrote on Sat, 08 October 2011 01:43

I'll be there soonas I have a small exhaust leak. Why did you choose stainless over aluminized exhaust? I know this debate occurs from time to time but I never remember when I need the stuff.
Larry Davick



Well the CFO, who is the coaches actual owner, said that is the one she was willing to pay for. Why? For the same reason she wants a second Patterson dizzy on board as a spare. The reason? Cause that's the way she wants it. The real fun will begin when we get to the interior and the decorator and artist will have a lot more to say about how she wants it.

I am just the official owner for collector plates reasons and am the head mechanic and cheap labor source.


Steve Southworth
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1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question [message #145945 is a reply to message #145944] Sat, 08 October 2011 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's a GOOD reason!

Larry Davick

On Oct 8, 2011, at 6:57 PM, Steve Southworth <midlf@centurytel.net> wrote:

>
>
> ljdavick wrote on Sat, 08 October 2011 01:43
>> I'll be there soonas I have a small exhaust leak. Why did you choose stainless over aluminized exhaust? I know this debate occurs from time to time but I never remember when I need the stuff.
>> Larry Davick
>
>
> Well the CFO, who is the coaches actual owner, said that is the one she was willing to pay for. Why? For the same reason she wants a second Patterson dizzy on board as a spare. The reason? Cause that's the way she wants it. The real fun will begin when we get to the interior and the decorator and artist will have a lot more to say about how she wants it.
>
> I am just the official owner for collector plates reasons and am the head mechanic and cheap labor source.
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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question [message #145956 is a reply to message #145895] Sat, 08 October 2011 23:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does anyone else think Rob has been dipping into the Fosters a little too deeply?

FO. What a thought. All the work I've put into the coach (okay "work" is a euphemism for money) is unseen. A FO might benefit from it all, but I doubt they would pay an extra nickel for it!

Stainless brake lines, aluminum manifold, fuel lines, electric fuel pump, macerator, don't mean too much to the purchaser's CFO.

Working dash AC might make a difference though!

Some things you do for yourself, like an extra dram of Fosters!

Larry Davick

On Oct 8, 2011, at 1:18 AM, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:

> Larry,
>
> It depends on how old you are and if you want to be considered a great PO by your GMC's FO (Future Owner).
>
> You've noted that "I never remember when I need the stuff" which may indicate that you have CRS.
>
> CRS is a common condition for those of us of "advancing years." If you are in that group aluminized steel will more than likely last
> until all that's safe for you to drive is a walker.
>
> However, if I have mischaracterized you and you are still a "junior citizen" then the stainless steel system would be better just in
> case Da Man allows you long tenure on this mortal coil.
>
> Also I ga-ron-tee that if you fit a stainless steel exhaust the FO will be singing your praises around here when you and I are long
> gone!
>
> I trust you consider this a reasonable response and helps you resolve your quandary!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> Sent from my iBrain
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry Davick
> Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2011 5:43 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question
>
> I'll be there soonas I have a small exhaust leak. Why did you choose stainless over aluminized exhaust? I know this debate occurs
> from time to time but I never remember when I need the stuff.
> Larry Davick
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question [message #145966 is a reply to message #145956] Sun, 09 October 2011 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I seriously doubt that Rob partakes of
that kangaroo pee known as Fosters!

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> From: ljdavick@comcast.net
> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 21:58:20 -0700
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question
>
> Does anyone else think Rob has been dipping into the Fosters a little too deeply?
>
> FO. What a thought. All the work I've put into the coach (okay "work" is a euphemism for money) is unseen. A FO might benefit from it all, but I doubt they would pay an extra nickel for it!
>
> Stainless brake lines, aluminum manifold, fuel lines, electric fuel pump, macerator, don't mean too much to the purchaser's CFO.
>
> Working dash AC might make a difference though!
>
> Some things you do for yourself, like an extra dram of Fosters!
>
> Larry Davick
>
> On Oct 8, 2011, at 1:18 AM, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> > Larry,
> >
> > It depends on how old you are and if you want to be considered a great PO by your GMC's FO (Future Owner).
> >
> > You've noted that "I never remember when I need the stuff" which may indicate that you have CRS.
> >
> > CRS is a common condition for those of us of "advancing years." If you are in that group aluminized steel will more than likely last
> > until all that's safe for you to drive is a walker.
> >
> > However, if I have mischaracterized you and you are still a "junior citizen" then the stainless steel system would be better just in
> > case Da Man allows you long tenure on this mortal coil.
> >
> > Also I ga-ron-tee that if you fit a stainless steel exhaust the FO will be singing your praises around here when you and I are long
> > gone!
> >
> > I trust you consider this a reasonable response and helps you resolve your quandary!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> >
> > Sent from my iBrain
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry Davick
> > Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2011 5:43 PM
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question
> >
> > I'll be there soonas I have a small exhaust leak. Why did you choose stainless over aluminized exhaust? I know this debate occurs
> > from time to time but I never remember when I need the stuff.
> > Larry Davick
> > Sent from my iPad

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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question [message #146009 is a reply to message #145931] Sun, 09 October 2011 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have seen lot of the exaust systems that have beed fabricated.
They lack help on the bends as they are choked down to where they flow
less than a 2" system.
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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question [message #146053 is a reply to message #145966] Mon, 10 October 2011 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mac,

Correct!

Fosters is brewed for export. In fact the company just got sold to some mob in South Africa I think.

Here in New South Wales we drink Tooheys.

As far as a "dram" goes I do like Scotch, single malt preferably!

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Rob M.

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I seriously doubt that Rob partakes of
that kangaroo pee known as Fosters!

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ljdavick@comcast.net
>
> Does anyone else think Rob has been dipping into the Fosters a little too deeply?
>
> FO. What a thought. All the work I've put into the coach (okay "work" is a euphemism for money) is unseen. A FO might benefit from
it all, but I doubt they would pay an extra nickel for it!
>
> Stainless brake lines, aluminum manifold, fuel lines, electric fuel pump, macerator, don't mean too much to the purchaser's CFO.
>
> Working dash AC might make a difference though!
>
> Some things you do for yourself, like an extra dram of Fosters!
>
> Larry Davick


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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question [message #146063 is a reply to message #146009] Mon, 10 October 2011 10:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim, I bought mandrel bent elbows. Summit racing about $20 ea.

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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question [message #146105 is a reply to message #146053] Mon, 10 October 2011 20:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob,

If my memory serves me - didn't Toohey's have very attractive cans years
ago...

Tom Eckert N2VWN
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Oakland, TN

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:

> Mac,
>
> Correct!
>
> Fosters is brewed for export. In fact the company just got sold to some mob
> in South Africa I think.
>
> Here in New South Wales we drink Tooheys.
>
> As far as a "dram" goes I do like Scotch, single malt preferably!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: *Mac*
>
> I seriously doubt that Rob partakes of
> that kangaroo pee known as Fosters!
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ljdavick@comcast.net
> >
> > Does anyone else think Rob has been dipping into the Fosters a little too
> deeply?
> >
> > FO. What a thought. All the work I've put into the coach (okay "work" is
> a euphemism for money) is unseen. A FO might benefit from
> it all, but I doubt they would pay an extra nickel for it!
> >
> > Stainless brake lines, aluminum manifold, fuel lines, electric fuel pump,
> macerator, don't mean too much to the purchaser's CFO.
> >
> > Working dash AC might make a difference though!
> >
> > Some things you do for yourself, like an extra dram of Fosters!
> >
> > Larry Davick
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust question [message #146108 is a reply to message #146053] Mon, 10 October 2011 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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