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Sat, 10 September 2011 10:53  |
chasingsummer
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i have started my timing chain project, parts are not in so i figured i would get fan clutch and the air duct that surronds it off, so that i may access, fan and surrond are only this off, bets are not even loose yet
i know someone has been here on mine before because some bolts have washers and some dont.
during the process of removing the air shroud piece a spacer hit the floor. it is approx 5/8 wide and 3/8 thick. i can see that it could be used as a spacer if something needed this 3/8 offset for ?
it may not matter, but any thoughts where it may go?
thanks bgk
brian
asheboro, nc
75 eleganza, 74 build
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| Re: [GMCnet] where does spacer go [message #142938 is a reply to message #142937] |
Sat, 10 September 2011 11:52  |
emerystora
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The only spacer that I am aware of that has that size is a spacer that goes between the angle bracket that fits onto the alternator. It fits on the rear bottom of the bracket where it bolts to the top of the manifold (head?). it is needed there to get the alternator tipped a bit to the front to align the belt properly.
I don't think that there is any spacer on the fan duct.
Emery Stora
On Sep 10, 2011, at 11:53 AM, brian wrote:
>
>
> i have started my timing chain project, parts are not in so i figured i would get fan clutch and the air duct that surronds it off, so that i may access, fan and surrond are only this off, bets are not even loose yet
> i know someone has been here on mine before because some bolts have washers and some dont.
> during the process of removing the air shroud piece a spacer hit the floor. it is approx 5/8 wide and 3/8 thick. i can see that it could be used as a spacer if something needed this 3/8 offset for ?
> it may not matter, but any thoughts where it may go?
> thanks bgk
> --
> brian
> asheboro, nc
> 75 eleganza 2 74 build
> 118k miles and counting,
> DOG HOUSE
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] where does spacer go [message #142980 is a reply to message #142938] |
Sun, 11 September 2011 05:40 |
Mr ERFisher
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here are pictures of the spacer and where it goes.
there is also a picture how to fix the alternator when the spacer is lost.
this missing spacer, is the most common reason folks are going to 2
alternator belts. with proper alignment and tension, the single alternator
belt works great - forever;>)
gene
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
> The only spacer that I am aware of that has that size is a spacer that
> goes between the angle bracket that fits onto the alternator. It fits on
> the rear bottom of the bracket where it bolts to the top of the manifold
> (head?). it is needed there to get the alternator tipped a bit to the front
> to align the belt properly.
>
> I don't think that there is any spacer on the fan duct.
>
> Emery Stora
>
> On Sep 10, 2011, at 11:53 AM, brian wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > i have started my timing chain project, parts are not in so i figured i
> would get fan clutch and the air duct that surronds it off, so that i may
> access, fan and surrond are only this off, bets are not even loose yet
> > i know someone has been here on mine before because some bolts have
> washers and some dont.
> > during the process of removing the air shroud piece a spacer hit the
> floor. it is approx 5/8 wide and 3/8 thick. i can see that it could be used
> as a spacer if something needed this 3/8 offset for ?
> > it may not matter, but any thoughts where it may go?
> > thanks bgk
> > --
> > brian
> > asheboro, nc
> > 75 eleganza 2 74 build
> > 118k miles and counting,
> > DOG HOUSE
> >
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| Re: [GMCnet] where does spacer go [message #142981 is a reply to message #142980] |
Sun, 11 September 2011 06:31 |
emerystora
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Gene
No picture url.
Emery
On Sep 11, 2011, at 6:40 AM, gene Fisher wrote:
> here are pictures of the spacer and where it goes.
>
> there is also a picture how to fix the alternator when the spacer is lost.
>
> this missing spacer, is the most common reason folks are going to 2
> alternator belts. with proper alignment and tension, the single alternator
> belt works great - forever;>)
>
> gene
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> The only spacer that I am aware of that has that size is a spacer that
>> goes between the angle bracket that fits onto the alternator. It fits on
>> the rear bottom of the bracket where it bolts to the top of the manifold
>> (head?). it is needed there to get the alternator tipped a bit to the front
>> to align the belt properly.
>>
>> I don't think that there is any spacer on the fan duct.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2011, at 11:53 AM, brian wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> i have started my timing chain project, parts are not in so i figured i
>> would get fan clutch and the air duct that surronds it off, so that i may
>> access, fan and surrond are only this off, bets are not even loose yet
>>> i know someone has been here on mine before because some bolts have
>> washers and some dont.
>>> during the process of removing the air shroud piece a spacer hit the
>> floor. it is approx 5/8 wide and 3/8 thick. i can see that it could be used
>> as a spacer if something needed this 3/8 offset for ?
>>> it may not matter, but any thoughts where it may go?
>>> thanks bgk
>>> --
>>> brian
>>> asheboro, nc
>>> 75 eleganza 2 74 build
>>> 118k miles and counting,
>>> DOG HOUSE
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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| Re: [GMCnet] where does spacer go [message #142983 is a reply to message #142981] |
Sun, 11 September 2011 07:06 |
Mr ERFisher
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picky, picky, picky;>)
http://gmcmotorhome.info/engine.html#bracket
thanks
gene
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
> Gene
>
> No picture url.
>
> Emery
>
> On Sep 11, 2011, at 6:40 AM, gene Fisher wrote:
>
> > here are pictures of the spacer and where it goes.
> >
> > there is also a picture how to fix the alternator when the spacer is
> lost.
> >
> > this missing spacer, is the most common reason folks are going to 2
> > alternator belts. with proper alignment and tension, the single
> alternator
> > belt works great - forever;>)
> >
> > gene
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The only spacer that I am aware of that has that size is a spacer that
> >> goes between the angle bracket that fits onto the alternator. It fits
> on
> >> the rear bottom of the bracket where it bolts to the top of the manifold
> >> (head?). it is needed there to get the alternator tipped a bit to the
> front
> >> to align the belt properly.
> >>
> >> I don't think that there is any spacer on the fan duct.
> >>
> >> Emery Stora
> >>
> >> On Sep 10, 2011, at 11:53 AM, brian wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> i have started my timing chain project, parts are not in so i figured i
> >> would get fan clutch and the air duct that surronds it off, so that i
> may
> >> access, fan and surrond are only this off, bets are not even loose yet
> >>> i know someone has been here on mine before because some bolts have
> >> washers and some dont.
> >>> during the process of removing the air shroud piece a spacer hit the
> >> floor. it is approx 5/8 wide and 3/8 thick. i can see that it could be
> used
> >> as a spacer if something needed this 3/8 offset for ?
> >>> it may not matter, but any thoughts where it may go?
> >>> thanks bgk
> >>> --
> >>> brian
> >>> asheboro, nc
> >>> 75 eleganza 2 74 build
> >>> 118k miles and counting,
> >>> DOG HOUSE
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> > http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
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| Re: [GMCnet] where does spacer go [message #142984 is a reply to message #142980] |
Sun, 11 September 2011 07:12 |
Steven Ferguson
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Yepper! Between alignment and incorrect width
belts.............................
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 3:40 AM, gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
> here are pictures of the spacer and where it goes.
>
> there is also a picture how to fix the alternator when the spacer is
> lost.
>
> this missing spacer, is the most common reason folks are going to 2
> alternator belts. with proper alignment and tension, the single
> alternator
> belt works great - forever;>)
>
> gene
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > The only spacer that I am aware of that has that size is a spacer that
> > goes between the angle bracket that fits onto the alternator. It fits on
> > the rear bottom of the bracket where it bolts to the top of the manifold
> > (head?). it is needed there to get the alternator tipped a bit to the
> front
> > to align the belt properly.
> >
> > I don't think that there is any spacer on the fan duct.
> >
> > Emery Stora
> >
> > On Sep 10, 2011, at 11:53 AM, brian wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > i have started my timing chain project, parts are not in so i figured i
> > would get fan clutch and the air duct that surronds it off, so that i may
> > access, fan and surrond are only this off, bets are not even loose yet
> > > i know someone has been here on mine before because some bolts have
> > washers and some dont.
> > > during the process of removing the air shroud piece a spacer hit the
> > floor. it is approx 5/8 wide and 3/8 thick. i can see that it could be
> used
> > as a spacer if something needed this 3/8 offset for ?
> > > it may not matter, but any thoughts where it may go?
> > > thanks bgk
> > > --
> > > brian
> > > asheboro, nc
> > > 75 eleganza 2 74 build
> > > 118k miles and counting,
> > > DOG HOUSE
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GMCnet mailing list
> > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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> >
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> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
> -------
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> http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
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| Re: where does spacer go [message #142985 is a reply to message #142937] |
Sun, 11 September 2011 07:46 |
chasingsummer
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i appreciate the responces, i will be looking at my alternator to verify spacer is there. since i have not removed my belts yet, it does make me wonder what PO did. ir if he knew this part was missing.
thanks bgk
brian
asheboro, nc
75 eleganza, 74 build
119k miles and counting,
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| Re: where does spacer go [message #142986 is a reply to message #142937] |
Sun, 11 September 2011 08:10 |
fred v
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on mine the spacer is on the top pivot bracket where the bracket back and down to the head bolt connects.
that bracket was missing on mine so i made one.
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] where does spacer go [message #143000 is a reply to message #142986] |
Sun, 11 September 2011 11:21 |
Mr ERFisher
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the real object here is to make sure the belt is leaving the pulley -
straight out-
to do this, put a straight edge across the diameter of the alternator
pulley, and the belt should be exactly parallel to the straight edge.
If the belt leaves at an angle, you are going to have trouble.
and of course, tension, and belt size as has been noted
gene
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 6:10 AM, fred veenschoten <fredntoni@cox.net> wrote:
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> on mine the spacer is on the top pivot bracket where the bracket back and
> down to the head bolt connects.
>
> that bracket was missing on mine so i made one.
>
> --
> Fred V
> '77 Royale RB 455
> P'cola, Fl
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