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Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #141965] Thu, 01 September 2011 08:48 Go to next message
petemosss is currently offline  petemosss   United States
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I was very dismayed how my 20' sections of hyd. steel tube from my hydraulic dist. rusted inside and out in just days before I had a chance to fab. OK, how to derust inside and out. Then what, paint? Has me thinking Aluminum. Only $30./ 25' roll at local speed shop. Very shiny and much easier to bend and flare. It will also work with existing small fortune of hyd. steel fittings I have.

Any thoughts?

Alcohol and Aluminum? ( I seem to remember someone on this forum with a newer Holley Alum. carb being eaten up inside)


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Re: [GMCnet] Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #141971 is a reply to message #141965] Thu, 01 September 2011 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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brake lines

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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:48 AM, pete <petemosss@comcast.net> wrote:
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> I was very dismayed how my 20' sections of hyd. steel tube from my hydraulic dist. rusted inside and out in just days before I had a chance to fab. OK, how to derust inside and out. Then what, paint? Has me thinking Aluminum. Only $30./ 25' roll at local speed shop. Very shiny and much easier to bend and flare. It will also work with existing small fortune of hyd. steel fittings I have.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Alcohol and Aluminum? ( I seem to remember someone on this forum with a newer Holley Alum. carb being eaten up inside)
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Re: Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #141980 is a reply to message #141965] Thu, 01 September 2011 10:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim Wagner is currently offline  Jim Wagner   United States
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Pete,
I use the aluminum tubing for the gas line on the GMC and also on our two cruisin cars with no problem. These are not driven in the snow so salt isn't a problem. I see your location is north florida so I guess salt wouldn't be a problem for you.
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Re: Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #141999 is a reply to message #141980] Thu, 01 September 2011 15:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What about PolyArmour?


I can't remember if it was recomended here or on the Revcon forum.

It's about $1/ft, some kind of coated steel fairly easy to bend?

I made transmission lines with it. But they are untested.




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Re: [GMCnet] Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #142042 is a reply to message #141999] Thu, 01 September 2011 21:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Dave,

Looks like you earned one ATTA-BOY finding PolyArmour!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XADAMp4CswM

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What about PolyArmour?

I can't remember if it was recomended here or on the Revcon forum.

It's about $1/ft, some kind of coated steal fairly easy to bend?

I made transmission lines with it. But they are untested.

Dave

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Re: [GMCnet] Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #142091 is a reply to message #142042] Fri, 02 September 2011 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just got information from Poly-Armour.
It is supposed to be available at NAPA, AutoZone and Advance.
I have not looked at cost.

It can be flared with standard tooling.

I'm going to be looking at this in the future.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #142127 is a reply to message #142091] Fri, 02 September 2011 15:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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9 times out of 10, even with the best tubing bender, you cannot do a 90
without it crimping.

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com> wrote:

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> I just got information from Poly-Armour.
> It is supposed to be available at NAPA, AutoZone and Advance.
> I have not looked at cost.
>
> It can be flared with standard tooling.
>
> I'm going to be looking at this in the future.
>
> Matt
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Re: [GMCnet] Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #142173 is a reply to message #142127] Fri, 02 September 2011 19:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steven Ferguson wrote on Fri, 02 September 2011 13:24

9 times out of 10, even with the best tubing bender, you cannot do a 90
without it crimping.


When bending a fuel line, to close to the end to use tools, I filled the line with sand. Even with tools it should help keep the line open.

<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=11958>
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=11959>

I am not sure how well sand would work in smaller, longer brake lines.


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Re: [GMCnet] Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #142184 is a reply to message #142173] Fri, 02 September 2011 21:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike,

I didn't know you knew my Dad, he taught me that trick!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Miller

When bending a fuel line, to close to the end to use tools, I filled the line with sand. Even with tools it should help keep the
line open.

Mike

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Re: [GMCnet] Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #142198 is a reply to message #142173] Fri, 02 September 2011 22:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike,

If you're trying to bend tubing without being able to use a
proper
bender, put a piece of nylon rod in it. Bend it and pull the
nylon
out. If you don't have the nylon rod, check with Blaine Merril.
He's got a bunch of it.HTH

Gary Kosier
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Newark, Ohio

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>
>
> Steven Ferguson wrote on Fri, 02 September 2011 13:24
>> 9 times out of 10, even with the best tubing bender, you
>> cannot do a 90
>> without it crimping.
>
>
> When bending a fuel line, to close to the end to use tools, I
> filled the line with sand. Even with tools it should help keep
> the line open.
>
> <http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=11958>
> <http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=11959>
>
> I am not sure how well sand would work in smaller, longer brake
> lines.
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Re: [GMCnet] Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #142201 is a reply to message #142198] Fri, 02 September 2011 22:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary,

So instead of pounding sand in it he should stick a nylon rod in it eh? ;-)

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Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kosier

Mike,

If you're trying to bend tubing without being able to use a proper bender, put a piece of nylon rod in it. Bend it and pull the
nylon out. If you don't have the nylon rod, check with Blaine Merril he's got a bunch of it.HTH

Gary

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Re: [GMCnet] Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #142203 is a reply to message #142201] Fri, 02 September 2011 22:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob,

It will work well on small tubing. I've run a bunch of six-inch
tubing
for cracked corn. It was sand packed and bent to a six inch
radius.
When you run that stuff, you plan your route VERY carefully.

Gary Kosier

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> Gary,
>
> So instead of pounding sand in it he should stick a nylon rod
> in it eh? ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kosier
>
> Mike,
>
> If you're trying to bend tubing without being able to use a
> proper bender, put a piece of nylon rod in it. Bend it and
> pull the
> nylon out. If you don't have the nylon rod, check with Blaine
> Merril he's got a bunch of it.HTH
>
> Gary
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Re: [GMCnet] Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #142205 is a reply to message #142203] Sat, 03 September 2011 00:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I discovered a easy to form and flare, corrosion resistant tubing
that I am using on my motorhome. It is a little expensive but that is made up in ease to form and use.
Take a look at the website. It is a 90%copper and 10% nickel.

http://store.fedhillusa.com


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Re: [GMCnet] Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #142210 is a reply to message #142198] Sat, 03 September 2011 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kosier wrote on Fri, 02 September 2011 22:14

Mike,

If you're trying to bend tubing without being able to use a
proper
bender, put a piece of nylon rod in it. Bend it and pull the
nylon
out. If you don't have the nylon rod, check with Blaine Merril.
He's got a bunch of it.HTH

Gary Kosier
77EII & 77PB
Newark, Ohio




I got some from Blaine a few years back and it works well.


Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #142231 is a reply to message #142210] Sat, 03 September 2011 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I used Poly armor when i did my fuel lines.
It's very easy to work with
If it outlasts normal tubing, I'll be very happy!

Hopefully it's alcohol resistance is good too!


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Re: Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #142244 is a reply to message #141965] Sat, 03 September 2011 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dave take a bow!
$25.99 for a 25' roll of 3/8" in stock at my local Autozone.


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Re: [GMCnet] Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #142427 is a reply to message #142173] Mon, 05 September 2011 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Salt works just as well and any residue is easily dissolved.

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Steven Ferguson wrote on Fri, 02 September 2011 13:24
> > 9 times out of 10, even with the best tubing bender, you cannot do a 90
> > without it crimping.
>
>
> When bending a fuel line, to close to the end to use tools, I filled the
> line with sand. Even with tools it should help keep the line open.
>
> <http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=11958>
> <http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=11959>
>
> I am not sure how well sand would work in smaller, longer brake lines.
> --
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> (#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23'
> Birchaven Side Bath
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Re: Hard Fuel Lines- Steel or Aluminum? [message #142446 is a reply to message #141965] Mon, 05 September 2011 10:23 Go to previous message
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You can get nylon line at Upholstery shops. It's used for edge piping. If you are using 1/4 line or smaller, Weed whacker line may work as well. I like the sand Idea!

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