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This is a new post of an old thread regarding the availability of a new radiator other than a custom aluminum one. I finally got around to pulling my rad out of my 77 Royale and had Performance Radiator pick it up yesterday. I received a call from a tech there today explaining to me what many on this forum have already stated that the radiator is obsolete. The tech there told me he could re-core mine with the original brass for about $800. After checking my shorts I told him that I could get a custom aluminum one for under $500. He said that the brass ones are far better,and will out last the aluminum ones at least two to one due to corrosion of the aluminum especially in a motorhome that spends large chunks of time sitting. I have seen many posts where ya-all have mentioned your aluminum radiators. Any testimonials about longevity expectations? Is this guys "16 years in the radiator buisiness and i would not put an aluminum radiator in anything I own" remark valid???



Sully 77 Royale basket case. Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list) Seattle, Wa.
Re: Radiator [message #141880 is a reply to message #141878] Wed, 31 August 2011 17:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sgltrac wrote on Wed, 31 August 2011 16:47

The tech there told me he could re-core mine with the original brass for about $800. After checking my shorts I told him that I could get a custom aluminum one for under $500.


??? Where? The Motorhome Enhancements is $800. RayE had his OEM re-cored for, IIRC, approx $500.

I'll be interested in hearing how this turns out as my radiator lower section is a beautiful green with some streaks heading up-wards.


Steve Southworth
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1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
Re: [GMCnet] Radiator [message #141883 is a reply to message #141878] Wed, 31 August 2011 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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aluminum radiator that we sell are far more capacity than the 500 one.
If you know what a West Coast Radiator is , you know why they named it that.
Few of the smart people got the 500 aluminum ones in and are
scratching their head as to why they are not cooling so well.
Gene Dotson and Jim Buchanan did some research before they went that route.
As long as you take proper precaution to ground them, they will last.
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Re: Radiator [message #141889 is a reply to message #141878] Wed, 31 August 2011 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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a friend here got the same price 800 bucks to re-core his rad.


Fred V
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Re: Radiator [message #141890 is a reply to message #141878] Wed, 31 August 2011 18:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sgltrac wrote on Wed, 31 August 2011 17:47

This is a new post of an old thread regarding the availability of a new radiator other than a custom aluminum one. I finally got around to pulling my rad out of my 77 Royale and had Performance Radiator pick it up yesterday. I received a call from a tech there today explaining to me what many on this forum have already stated that the radiator is obsolete. The tech there told me he could re-core mine with the original brass for about $800. After checking my shorts I told him that I could get a custom aluminum one for under $500. He said that the brass ones are far better,and will out last the aluminum ones at least two to one due to corrosion of the aluminum especially in a motorhome that spends large chunks of time sitting. I have seen many posts where ya-all have mentioned your aluminum radiators. Any testimonials about longevity expectations? Is this guys "16 years in the radiator buisiness and i would not put an aluminum radiator in anything I own" remark valid???













Sir: Jim B http://www.gmccoop.com/ was talking on his daily pose about having a new copper radiator available. Maybe call him.
If you have all steel lines on the transmission cooling lines it is grounded, if you have an extra tranny cooler with rubber lines going to it, it is probably not grounded.


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Re: [GMCnet] Radiator [message #141896 is a reply to message #141890] Wed, 31 August 2011 18:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Our price on the HD Al radiator is $799.00

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Charles Boyd <covered-wagon@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> This is a new post of an old thread regarding the availability of a new radiator other than a custom aluminum one. I finally got around to pulling my rad out of my 77 Royale and had Performance Radiator pick it up yesterday. I received a call from a tech there today explaining to me what many on this forum have already stated that the radiator is obsolete. The tech there told me he could re-core mine with the original brass for about $800. After checking my shorts I told him that I could get a custom aluminum one for under $500. He said that the brass ones are far better,and will out last the aluminum ones at least two to one due to corrosion of the aluminum especially in a motorhome that spends large chunks of time sitting. I have seen many posts where ya-all have mentioned your aluminum radiators. Any testimonials about longevity expectations? Is this guys "16 years in the radiator buisiness and i would not put an aluminum radiator in anything I own" remark valid???
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Re: [GMCnet] Radiator [message #141898 is a reply to message #141896] Wed, 31 August 2011 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jimk wrote on Wed, 31 August 2011 19:38

Our price on the HD Al radiator is $799.00

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Charles Boyd <covered-wagon@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> This is a new post of an old thread regarding the availability of a new radiator other than a custom aluminum one. I finally got around to pulling my rad out of my 77 Royale and had Performance Radiator pick it up yesterday. I received a call from a tech there today explaining to me what many on this forum have already stated that the radiator is obsolete. The tech there told me he could re-core mine with the original brass for about $800. After checking my shorts I told him that I could get a custom aluminum one for under $500. He said that the brass ones are far better,and will out last the aluminum ones at least two to one due to corrosion of the aluminum especially in a motorhome that spends large chunks of time sitting. I have seen many posts where ya-all have mentioned your aluminum radiators. Any testimonials about longevity expectations? Is this guys "16 years in the radiator buisiness and i would not put an aluminum radiator in anything I own" remark valid???
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OOOPS.. Jim B offers original style recored rads for $650 + 50 crating + shipping. Daily pose 7-1-11
The HD aluminum is well worth the money, they are impressive.


C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
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Re: [GMCnet] Radiator [message #141900 is a reply to message #141898] Wed, 31 August 2011 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So which is better for cooling/longevity performance, brass or aluminum???

Sully
77 royale
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jimk wrote on Wed, 31 August 2011 19:38
> Our price on the HD Al radiator is $799.00
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> >> This is a new post of an old thread regarding the availability of a new radiator other than a custom aluminum one. I finally got around to pulling my rad out of my 77 Royale and had Performance Radiator pick it up yesterday. I received a call from a tech there today explaining to me what many on this forum have already stated that the radiator is obsolete. The tech there told me he could re-core mine with the original brass for about $800. After checking my shorts I told him that I could get a custom aluminum one for under $500. He said that the brass ones are far better,and will out last the aluminum ones at least two to one due to corrosion of the aluminum especially in a motorhome that spends large chunks of time sitting. I have seen many posts where ya-all have mentioned your aluminum radiators. Any testimonials about longevity expectations? Is this guys "16 years in the radiator buisiness and i would not put an aluminum radiator in anything I own" remark valid???
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OOOPS.. Jim B offers original style recored rads for $650 + 50 crating + shipping. Daily pose 7-1-11
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Re: [GMCnet] Radiator [message #141903 is a reply to message #141900] Wed, 31 August 2011 19:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sully,

I replaced the OEM radiator in Double Trouble with an Aluminum one from Gene Dotson and my water temp went down across the board. I
find that on cold days the water temp gage doesn't reach the thermostat settings, which I assume is caused by flow through the
bypass.

I am of the opinion that if you make sure the aluminum radiator is grounded properly and you replace the antifreeze regularly it
will last just as long as the brass radiator.

Regards,
Rob M.

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So which is better for cooling/longevity performance, brass or aluminum???

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Re: Radiator [message #141963 is a reply to message #141878] Thu, 01 September 2011 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sgltrac wrote on Wed, 31 August 2011 17:47

This is a new post of an old thread regarding the availability of a new radiator other than a custom aluminum one. I finally got around to pulling my rad out of my 77 Royale and had Performance Radiator pick it up yesterday. I received a call from a tech there today explaining to me what many on this forum have already stated that the radiator is obsolete. The tech there told me he could re-core mine with the original brass for about $800. After checking my shorts I told him that I could get a custom aluminum one for under $500. He said that the brass ones are far better,and will out last the aluminum ones at least two to one due to corrosion of the aluminum especially in a motorhome that spends large chunks of time sitting. I have seen many posts where ya-all have mentioned your aluminum radiators. Any testimonials about longevity expectations? Is this guys "16 years in the radiator buisiness and i would not put an aluminum radiator in anything I own" remark valid???




Sully,

Sounds like some one wanting to sell a recore. Aluminum radiators have been around for some time and if you buy any new car it will have an aluminum radiator. If you take proper care of any radiator, it will last. The key things to do are:

1. Do NOT ground the radiator. Grounding will assure a premature failure. Grounding is done properly by keeping the radiator the same potential as the engine, transmission lines do the job.
2. Use only distilled water for diluting concentrated antifreeze or use a prediluted antifreeze.
3. Use a good brand of antifreeze, don't go cheap.
4. Install a screen for the bottom of the radiator. It is exposed to road debris and rocks thrown up by other vehicles. Blaine Merrill makes an excellent one.


Gene Dotson
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Re: [GMCnet] Radiator [message #142005 is a reply to message #141889] Thu, 01 September 2011 16:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We charge $650 with good tanks but the shipping from Florida would cost.  I would get the original recored-- that way one day when that radiator bites it you can recore it again-- and again-- and again.  Thats what I suggest,

Jim Bounds
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a friend here got the same price 800 bucks to re-core his rad.

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Re: Radiator [message #142019 is a reply to message #141878] Thu, 01 September 2011 18:23 Go to previous message
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Picked my recore up yesterday...$425..one of the few places around here that still does it.. been here forever. Asked how the tanks looked, said great condition, boiled them out should last another 30 some years. Do your research...get a good value...take the doubters at face value. It isn't always necessary to spend a bucket of money to get the job done.
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