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Tue, 23 August 2011 17:26  |
SergeL
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I am disassembling a ladder and rail from my 1973 GMC, the ladder steps are
assembled using roll pin or fittings that are punched into the step through
the ladder tubing. How do I remove the roll pin, there are no holes on the
back side of the step so I can't keep pushing them through. Any suggestions
on this? They are spring steel so drilling will not work.
Also is there a seam in the ladder tubing hidden behind the steps on the
ladder or are the tube pieces one piece? The reason I ask this is because
some of the braces that attach the ladder to the coach back or roof will not
come off since they will not slip around the bend in the tubing, makes me
think there must be a hidden joint where these can slip off.
Thanks for any help
Serge
1973 GMC
Deming, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jim K, Jim B, or anyone else [message #140681 is a reply to message #140673] |
Tue, 23 August 2011 18:03  |
Ken Henderson
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Serge,
Use a drill small enough to go inside the roll pins to drill through the
back of the step. Then use those holes as pilots to drill to the outer
diameter of the roll pins so you CAN drive them through.
I would not expect the tubing to have an obvious seam. I suspect the bends
were made after the standoffs were installed. After all, why would anyone
want to be taking them off? ;-)
Ken H.
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Serge Leduc <greatmoments60@hotmail.com>wrote:
> I am disassembling a ladder and rail from my 1973 GMC, the ladder steps are
> assembled using roll pin or fittings that are punched into the step through
> the ladder tubing. How do I remove the roll pin, there are no holes on the
> back side of the step so I can't keep pushing them through. Any suggestions
> on this? They are spring steel so drilling will not work.
> Also is there a seam in the ladder tubing hidden behind the steps on the
> ladder or are the tube pieces one piece? The reason I ask this is because
> some of the braces that attach the ladder to the coach back or roof will
> not
> come off since they will not slip around the bend in the tubing, makes me
> think there must be a hidden joint where these can slip off.
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jim K, Jim B, or anyone else [message #140695 is a reply to message #140681] |
Tue, 23 August 2011 20:12 |
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Serge / Ken,
I have a set of instructions on how to mount the genuine GMC ladder in my folder on Double Trouble. Unfortunately I am sitting in
front of a PC in Sydney and the folder is in Humble, Texas so that's no bloody use!
However, I took the roof rack off Double Trouble to reseal the attachment points and found that there were stainless steel set
screws in brackets to hold the tubing in place.
To get the tubing out you have to take the mounts off the roof and then slip the mounting brackets off.
I did not remove the steps so I don't know how they're held on.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Henderson
Serge,
Use a drill small enough to go inside the roll pins to drill through the
back of the step. Then use those holes as pilots to drill to the outer
diameter of the roll pins so you CAN drive them through.
I would not expect the tubing to have an obvious seam. I suspect the bends
were made after the standoffs were installed. After all, why would anyone
want to be taking them off? ;-)
Ken H.
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Serge Leduc <greatmoments60@hotmail.com>wrote:
> I am disassembling a ladder and rail from my 1973 GMC, the ladder steps are
> assembled using roll pin or fittings that are punched into the step through
> the ladder tubing. How do I remove the roll pin, there are no holes on the
> back side of the step so I can't keep pushing them through. Any suggestions
> on this? They are spring steel so drilling will not work.
> Also is there a seam in the ladder tubing hidden behind the steps on the
> ladder or are the tube pieces one piece? The reason I ask this is because
> some of the braces that attach the ladder to the coach back or roof will
> not
> come off since they will not slip around the bend in the tubing, makes me
> think there must be a hidden joint where these can slip off.
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jim K, Jim B, or anyone else [message #140721 is a reply to message #140695] |
Tue, 23 August 2011 22:39 |
Dolph Santorine
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Serge:
Are you going to be re-mounting it?
Dolph
On Aug 23, 2011, at 9:12 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Serge / Ken,
>
> I have a set of instructions on how to mount the genuine GMC ladder in my folder on Double Trouble. Unfortunately I am sitting in
> front of a PC in Sydney and the folder is in Humble, Texas so that's no bloody use!
>
> However, I took the roof rack off Double Trouble to reseal the attachment points and found that there were stainless steel set
> screws in brackets to hold the tubing in place.
>
> To get the tubing out you have to take the mounts off the roof and then slip the mounting brackets off.
>
> I did not remove the steps so I don't know how they're held on.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Henderson
>
> Serge,
>
> Use a drill small enough to go inside the roll pins to drill through the
> back of the step. Then use those holes as pilots to drill to the outer
> diameter of the roll pins so you CAN drive them through.
>
> I would not expect the tubing to have an obvious seam. I suspect the bends
> were made after the standoffs were installed. After all, why would anyone
> want to be taking them off? ;-)
>
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Serge Leduc <greatmoments60@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I am disassembling a ladder and rail from my 1973 GMC, the ladder steps are
>> assembled using roll pin or fittings that are punched into the step through
>> the ladder tubing. How do I remove the roll pin, there are no holes on the
>> back side of the step so I can't keep pushing them through. Any suggestions
>> on this? They are spring steel so drilling will not work.
>> Also is there a seam in the ladder tubing hidden behind the steps on the
>> ladder or are the tube pieces one piece? The reason I ask this is because
>> some of the braces that attach the ladder to the coach back or roof will
>> not
>> come off since they will not slip around the bend in the tubing, makes me
>> think there must be a hidden joint where these can slip off.
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jim K, Jim B, or anyone else [message #140723 is a reply to message #140721] |
Tue, 23 August 2011 23:03 |
SergeL
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No, the ladder and rails have been sold but shipping size is the problem.
Serge
1973 GMC
Deming, NM
He who expects no gratitude shall never be disapointed
-------Original Message-------
From: Dolph Santorine
Date: 8/23/2011 9:39:20 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Jim K, Jim B, or anyone else
Serge:
Are you going to be re-mounting it?
Dolph
On Aug 23, 2011, at 9:12 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Serge / Ken,
>
> I have a set of instructions on how to mount the genuine GMC ladder in my
folder on Double Trouble. Unfortunately I am sitting in
> front of a PC in Sydney and the folder is in Humble, Texas so that's no
bloody use!
>
> However, I took the roof rack off Double Trouble to reseal the attachment
points and found that there were stainless steel set
> screws in brackets to hold the tubing in place.
>
> To get the tubing out you have to take the mounts off the roof and then
slip the mounting brackets off.
>
> I did not remove the steps so I don't know how they're held on.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Henderson
>
> Serge,
>
> Use a drill small enough to go inside the roll pins to drill through the
> back of the step. Then use those holes as pilots to drill to the outer
> diameter of the roll pins so you CAN drive them through.
>
> I would not expect the tubing to have an obvious seam. I suspect the
bends
> were made after the standoffs were installed. After all, why would anyone
> want to be taking them off? ;-)
>
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Serge Leduc <greatmoments60@hotmail
com>wrote:
>
>> I am disassembling a ladder and rail from my 1973 GMC, the ladder steps
are
>> assembled using roll pin or fittings that are punched into the step
through
>> the ladder tubing. How do I remove the roll pin, there are no holes on
the
>> back side of the step so I can't keep pushing them through. Any
suggestions
>> on this? They are spring steel so drilling will not work.
>> Also is there a seam in the ladder tubing hidden behind the steps on the
>> ladder or are the tube pieces one piece? The reason I ask this is
because
>> some of the braces that attach the ladder to the coach back or roof will
>> not
>> come off since they will not slip around the bend in the tubing, makes me
>> think there must be a hidden joint where these can slip off.
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jim K, Jim B, or anyone else [message #140815 is a reply to message #140750] |
Wed, 24 August 2011 19:00 |
C Boyd
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| lilmyk wrote on Wed, 24 August 2011 07:51 |
Where are they heading too?
I will be driving from NC to Northern Cali next week and then back to NC after Sept 10th, I could possibly assist in the transportation.
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Sir: is there anyway you might transport a packed rear glass to La Mesa, Calif? Its a freebie for a friend.
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jim K, Jim B, or anyone else [message #141019 is a reply to message #140871] |
Thu, 25 August 2011 23:19 |
SergeL
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Micheal,
I found a way to ship the ladder, thank you for the offer.
Serge
1973 GMC
Deming, NM
He who expects no gratitude shall never be disapointed
-------Original Message-------
From: Michael
Date: 08/25/11 07:05:01
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Jim K, Jim B, or anyone else
My plan is to take 40 across the country and head north once I hit Barstow,
Deming and La Mesa are way out of my way, and I am on a deadline to be in
Norcal for my wedding, so I can not deter from my path. If arrangements can
be made to meet near 40, I think it will be possible.
I have to think about the glass and how much space it will take up.
The ladder can always be strapped to mine.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jim K, Jim B, or anyone else [message #141026 is a reply to message #141019] |
Fri, 26 August 2011 00:17 |
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Serge,
Could you provide some details on how you shipped the ladder IIRC the USPS max length is 48" or the like.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Serge Leduc
Micheal,
I found a way to ship the ladder, thank you for the offer.
Serge
1973 GMC
Deming, NM
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jim K, Jim B, or anyone else [message #141029 is a reply to message #141026] |
Fri, 26 August 2011 01:06 |
SergeL
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Rob,
I am sending it UPS with the max length and girth I believe is 165". I
finally was able to remove 2 of the steps about half way up the ladder, I
cut both sides at the point where the roll pin went through the tube that
holds the step in place, by putting an insert in like the rest of the ladder
and rail system it will be strong and the step will go back right over the
new seam. The buyer had agreed to this and it was the only way to get it to
size. When I had my diesel pusher, I bought a ladder for it and it was
assembled in the same way, never had any problems with it. Shipping it full
size would have had to go freight and the cost would have been $1,069.00 ,
no way we could do that.
Went to plan B
Serge
1973 GMC
Deming, NM
He who expects no gratitude shall never be disapointed
-------Original Message-------
From: Rob Mueller
Date: 08/25/11 23:15:52
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Jim K, Jim B, or anyone else
Serge,
Could you provide some details on how you shipped the ladder IIRC the USPS
max length is 48" or the like.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Serge Leduc
Micheal,
I found a way to ship the ladder, thank you for the offer.
Serge
1973 GMC
Deming, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jim K, Jim B, or anyone else [message #141033 is a reply to message #141029] |
Fri, 26 August 2011 01:54 |
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Serge,
Thanks, I kinda figger'd you went with UPS but I thought you might have found a way to send it via USPS to ship it.
I have transmission dipstick I need to get to Australia that's over the max USPS limits but UPS is giving me a crazy price.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Serge Leduc
Rob,
I am sending it UPS with the max length and girth I believe is 165". I
finally was able to remove 2 of the steps about half way up the ladder, I
cut both sides at the point where the roll pin went through the tube that
holds the step in place, by putting an insert in like the rest of the ladder
and rail system it will be strong and the step will go back right over the
new seam. The buyer had agreed to this and it was the only way to get it to
size. When I had my diesel pusher, I bought a ladder for it and it was
assembled in the same way, never had any problems with it. Shipping it full
size would have had to go freight and the cost would have been $1,069.00 ,
no way we could do that.
Went to plan B
Serge
1973 GMC
Deming, NM
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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