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| [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140341] |
Sun, 21 August 2011 19:21  |
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Rob Mueller alerted me to a problem with the fonts on the new area I put
up on GMC Eastern States (http://www.gmceast.com/travel). He's running XP
and Internet Explorer 6 or whatever.
So, I decided to check it out with Win7 and IE 8. Just as bad. I upgraded
to IE 9. It got worse. In fact, some of the graphics utilized in the CSS
(techy talk) stopped displaying.
Then, knowing how the Registry site is put together, I checked it. Royal
suck!
Everything works as it should on Windows 7 using Firefox, Opera and
Safari. Everything works as it should using Mac OS 10.5 and up on Firefox,
Opera and Safari. I didn't check Chrome on both platforms because I'm not
paid to worry about everything (in fact, I'm not paid to worry about much).
So, if anyone else is having a pleasurable experience, please share your
secret. Otherwise, I put a notice at www.gmceast.com that Internet
Exploder isn't supported. Yes, it does explode (or maybe it imploded).
Byron Songer
Louisville, KY
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140346 is a reply to message #140345] |
Sun, 21 August 2011 20:16  |
Dolph Santorine
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One of the great things about computer standards is that there are so many to choose from.....
Dolph Santorine
adolph@Santorine.org
Excuse me for not being my usual wordy and sporadically verbose self. This message is sent from my iPhone.
No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
On Aug 21, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Byron,
>
> It appears to work OK with Chrome. I only entered test data and then Reset,
> so it wasn't an exhaustive test, but I had no problems.
>
> Ken H.
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> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Byron Songer
> <bsonger@songerconsulting.net>wrote:
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>> Rob Mueller alerted me to a problem with the fonts on the new area I put
>> up on GMC Eastern States (http://www.gmceast.com/travel). He's running XP
>> and Internet Explorer 6 or whatever.
>>
> ...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140350 is a reply to message #140346] |
Sun, 21 August 2011 20:30 |
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Apparently that's what the IE team decided to do -- let's just deprecate
some Open Standards and push our own.
Byron
Sent from my Atari 800 I was able to get to the Internet somehow.
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From: Dolph Santorine <dolph@dolphsantorine.com>
Reply-To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:16:26 -0400
To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9
>One of the great things about computer standards is that there are so
>many to choose from.....
>
>Dolph Santorine
>
>adolph@Santorine.org
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>Excuse me for not being my usual wordy and sporadically verbose self.
>This message is sent from my iPhone.
>
>No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number
>of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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>On Aug 21, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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>> Byron,
>>
>> It appears to work OK with Chrome. I only entered test data and then
>>Reset,
>> so it wasn't an exhaustive test, but I had no problems.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Byron Songer
>> <bsonger@songerconsulting.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Rob Mueller alerted me to a problem with the fonts on the new area I
>>>put
>>> up on GMC Eastern States (http://www.gmceast.com/travel). He's running
>>>XP
>>> and Internet Explorer 6 or whatever.
>>>
>> ...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140376 is a reply to message #140341] |
Sun, 21 August 2011 23:55 |
Ken Burton
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Good move Byron.
This crap they do changing away from standards just enough to screw up the average user really needs to be highlighted. What they are probably trying to do is to get the rest of the world to change to their specs so they can then say that other browsers have problems.
Thanks for supporting the existing standards and telling MS to shove it.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140380 is a reply to message #140341] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 02:12 |
Larry C
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Hey Byron
I am on my computer with XP pro and Firefox 4.
The fonts are oversized and bold on the travel site ES.
I was there yesterday and it worked fine then.
Could something have changed at the ES website??? or on the travel part of the site???
Just asking...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140381 is a reply to message #140380] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 03:20 |
Ken Burton
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| Larry C wrote on Mon, 22 August 2011 02:12 |
Hey Byron
I am on my computer with XP pro and Firefox 4.
The fonts are oversized and bold on the travel site ES.
I was there yesterday and it worked fine then.
Could something have changed at the ES website??? or on the travel part of the site???
Just asking...
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First, Firefox ^ is hte current release
Try Pressing Control - and Control + to change the font and image sizes.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140438 is a reply to message #140341] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 10:27 |
Mr ERFisher
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must be your pc simulator ;>)
the rule of thumb for
xp - sp3 - with all up updates - use explorer 8
for
win7 - sp1 - with all updates - use explorer 9
don't mix them, and keep up ..
( my titanium mac did not work either, (must be old;>)
gene
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Byron Songer
<bsonger@songerconsulting.net> wrote:
> Rob Mueller alerted me to a problem with the fonts on the new area I put
> up on GMC Eastern States (http://www.gmceast.com/travel). He's running XP
> and Internet Explorer 6 or whatever.
>
> So, I decided to check it out with Win7 and IE 8. Just as bad. I upgraded
> to IE 9. It got worse. In fact, some of the graphics utilized in the CSS
> (techy talk) stopped displaying.
>
> Then, knowing how the Registry site is put together, I checked it. Royal
> suck!
>
> Everything works as it should on Windows 7 using Firefox, Opera and
> Safari. Everything works as it should using Mac OS 10.5 and up on Firefox,
> Opera and Safari. I didn't check Chrome on both platforms because I'm not
> paid to worry about everything (in fact, I'm not paid to worry about much).
>
> So, if anyone else is having a pleasurable experience, please share your
> secret. Otherwise, I put a notice at www.gmceast.com that Internet
> Exploder isn't supported. Yes, it does explode (or maybe it imploded).
>
> Byron Songer
> Louisville, KY
> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140440 is a reply to message #140438] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 11:22 |
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| Mr ERFisher wrote on Mon, 22 August 2011 10:27 |
must be your pc simulator ;>)
the rule of thumb for
xp - sp3 - with all up updates - use explorer 8
for
win7 - sp1 - with all updates - use explorer 9
don't mix them, and keep up ..
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How about Linux???
Little Yimmy - W9VUA
75 PB - F260206
Twin Cities, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140445 is a reply to message #140381] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 11:39 |
Larry C
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SOME Friends have just put Firefox 6 on their computer and it seems to have compatibility issues at the moment.
I have had FireFox 4 since it came out and can't say that I had an issue with it at all. I only mentioned that the site may have changed because I've been there more than once before ( or any site ) with no font problems. This is the first site this has ever occurred using my machine with XP/FF4.
As I am not the only seeing an issue, to me the site is suspicious.
Just my thoughts, thanks for the FF6 mention, I'll check it out further.
Gatsbys' CRUISER 08-18-04
74 GLACIER X, 260/455-APC-4 Bagg'r
Remflex Manifold gaskets
CampGrounds needed, Add yours to "PLACES" />
http://www.gmceast.com/travel
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| Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140448 is a reply to message #140341] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 12:23 |
Dave Mumert
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Hi
You might want to check the validity of your html code and css code using
the W3 tools at
http://www.w3.org/QA/Tools/
The campground pages are properly formatted in IE9 standard mode so there
must be some differences in the code in the other two pages.
The W3 test show problems with the XHTML code as well as warnings in the CSS
code.
Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9
>
> Rob Mueller alerted me to a problem with the fonts on the new area I put
up
> on GMC Eastern States (http://www.gmceast.com/travel). He's running XP
> and Internet Explorer 6 or whatever.
>
> So, I decided to check it out with Win7 and IE 8. Just as bad. I upgraded
to IE
> 9. It got worse. In fact, some of the graphics utilized in the CSS (techy
talk)
> stopped displaying.
>
> Then, knowing how the Registry site is put together, I checked it. Royal
suck!
>
> Everything works as it should on Windows 7 using Firefox, Opera and
Safari.
> Everything works as it should using Mac OS 10.5 and up on Firefox, Opera
and
> Safari. I didn't check Chrome on both platforms because I'm not paid to
worry
> about everything (in fact, I'm not paid to worry about much).
>
> So, if anyone else is having a pleasurable experience, please share your
> secret. Otherwise, I put a notice at www.gmceast.com that Internet
Exploder
> isn't supported. Yes, it does explode (or maybe it imploded).
>
> Byron Songer
> Louisville, KY
> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140456 is a reply to message #140445] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 13:41 |
Ken Burton
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| Larry C wrote on Mon, 22 August 2011 11:39 |
SOME Friends have just put Firefox 6 on their computer and it seems to have compatibility issues at the moment.
I have had FireFox 4 since it came out and can't say that I had an issue with it at all. I only mentioned that the site may have changed because I've been there more than once before ( or any site ) with no font problems. This is the first site this has ever occurred using my machine with XP/FF4.
As I am not the only seeing an issue, to me the site is suspicious.
Just my thoughts, thanks for the FF6 mention, I'll check it out further.
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Did you try "Control -" and "Control +" ?
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140460 is a reply to message #140448] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 13:53 |
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You guys are smart.
I changed the campgrounds page the AM. Now it works better but unless I
run IE 9 in compatibility mode it looks like trash.
I'll work on the other pages tonight. I still found some other
compatibility issues with IE 8/9 and have programmed the HTML around them.
Sheash, the pain MS wants you to go through that the rest of the Open
Standards world excepts.
Byron
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Mumert <dave@mumert.com>
Reply-To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:23:41 -0600
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9
>Hi
>
>You might want to check the validity of your html code and css code using
>the W3 tools at
>http://www.w3.org/QA/Tools/
>
>The campground pages are properly formatted in IE9 standard mode so there
>must be some differences in the code in the other two pages.
>
>The W3 test show problems with the XHTML code as well as warnings in the
>CSS
>code.
>
>Dave
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9
>>
>> Rob Mueller alerted me to a problem with the fonts on the new area I put
>up
>> on GMC Eastern States (http://www.gmceast.com/travel). He's running XP
>> and Internet Explorer 6 or whatever.
>>
>> So, I decided to check it out with Win7 and IE 8. Just as bad. I
>>upgraded
>to IE
>> 9. It got worse. In fact, some of the graphics utilized in the CSS
>>(techy
>talk)
>> stopped displaying.
>>
>> Then, knowing how the Registry site is put together, I checked it. Royal
>suck!
>>
>> Everything works as it should on Windows 7 using Firefox, Opera and
>Safari.
>> Everything works as it should using Mac OS 10.5 and up on Firefox, Opera
>and
>> Safari. I didn't check Chrome on both platforms because I'm not paid to
>worry
>> about everything (in fact, I'm not paid to worry about much).
>>
>> So, if anyone else is having a pleasurable experience, please share your
>> secret. Otherwise, I put a notice at www.gmceast.com that Internet
>Exploder
>> isn't supported. Yes, it does explode (or maybe it imploded).
>>
>> Byron Songer
>> Louisville, KY
>> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
>>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140486 is a reply to message #140456] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 16:16 |
Larry C
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I didn't have to before, and for the moment, I have not been back on the Windows XP/FireFox system.
However the ubunto/FireFox system has no problems, thats a good thing.
I will certainly give it a try but I just thought it suspiscious that this just came up to me and others after I had been there with no problems before. I'm just thinking out loud Ken, I'm not trying to start any problem.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140490 is a reply to message #140460] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 16:38 |
Dave Mumert
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Hi Byron
Both the campgrounds and the to-see pages look OK in both IE9 native and
compatibility mode. I don't see any change between the two mode.
The travel page still has the font size messed up. It looks the same in
both IE90 modes.
Try changing line 73 from
<h2>Recommendations from Fellow GMCers!</div>
To
<h2>Recommendations from Fellow GMCers!</h2></div>
Dave
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| Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140540 is a reply to message #140490] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 19:45 |
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Yep. That was one problem.
There were others that my magnifying glass found.
I believe all three pages are behaving better. There are still some issues
with IE but I think I've worked around those. These three pages have
required more time than any other three pages out of the whole site of 57.
Wow! My eyes hurt as well as my brain.
Byron
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Mumert <dave@mumert.com>
Reply-To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:38:42 -0600
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9
>Hi Byron
>
>Both the campgrounds and the to-see pages look OK in both IE9 native and
>compatibility mode. I don't see any change between the two mode.
>
>The travel page still has the font size messed up. It looks the same in
>both IE90 modes.
>
>Try changing line 73 from
><h2>Recommendations from Fellow GMCers!</div>
>To
><h2>Recommendations from Fellow GMCers!</h2></div>
>
>Dave
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140541 is a reply to message #140506] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 19:47 |
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Rob,
I'm not. It was a good idea with doing. Anything worth doing is worth
doing right. Right?
Now, if some guys will only chip in. I have two more submissions to post.
I stopped to work on the font and table reading issues before continuing.
Now I'm ready to continue ... I think.
I've learned a whole lot that I can now forget.
Byron
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
Reply-To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:51:06 +1000
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9
>Byron,
>
>As you said "Sheash!"
>
>With all the trouble this is causing I'm sorry I came up with the bloody
>idea in the first place!
>
>Regards,
>Rob M.
>Sydney, Australia
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Byron Songer
>
>You guys are smart.
>
>I changed the campgrounds page the AM. Now it works better but unless I
>run IE 9 in compatibility mode it looks like trash.
>
>I'll work on the other pages tonight. I still found some other
>compatibility issues with IE 8/9 and have programmed the HTML around them.
>
>Sheash, the pain MS wants you to go through that the rest of the Open
>Standards world excepts.
>
>Byron
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140737 is a reply to message #140456] |
Wed, 24 August 2011 01:32 |
Larry C
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OK KEN
I fired up the XP/FIREFOX machine and went to the site. Pressing CTRL/+ only magnifies the page, it did not change the font. CTRL/- brings it back again.
Just what I experienced...
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74 GLACIER X, 260/455-APC-4 Bagg'r
Remflex Manifold gaskets
CampGrounds needed, Add yours to "PLACES" />
http://www.gmceast.com/travel
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| Re: [GMCnet] Non-GMC - Windows 7 and IE 9 [message #140739 is a reply to message #140440] |
Wed, 24 August 2011 01:37 |
Larry C
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I now run both XP/FIreFOX and ubunto/Linox for web. I have not had a problem with ubunto/Linox with any pages on any site that I can think of.
XP/FIREFOX will have concerns but usually it means I have had a viral attack again. This is why I am trying ubunto/Linox. It seems to be immune to viral attack.
Just my thought
Gatsbys' CRUISER 08-18-04
74 GLACIER X, 260/455-APC-4 Bagg'r
Remflex Manifold gaskets
CampGrounds needed, Add yours to "PLACES" />
http://www.gmceast.com/travel
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