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[GMCnet] radiator!!! [message #140136] Fri, 19 August 2011 22:26 Go to next message
glwgmc is currently offline  glwgmc   United States
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Why cut the frame? Take four screws out of the top frame over the radiator, lift the old radiator over the frame to the front at the bottom and drop it out. Takes less time to do than to describe. Putting in a new one (aluminum or rebuilt old one) is just as easy as long as you push it up straight. Cock it and the protrusions on the top of the new radiator will tend to drag on the sides of the frame. Be sure to put the rubber mounts back in place so the new radiator is grounded only by the trans cooler lines to avoid electrolysis issues.

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Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 20:24:22 -0500
From: Bill Brown <carguybill@sbcglobal.net>
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Ok I've looked at both Gene's way, seems simple enough, and I've heard for years that the "way to do this" is to cut the radiator frame. Either way seems pretty straightforward so what's the advantage of cutting the frame?

Also, if/when I ever have to replace my radiator I will replace it with one of Gene Dotson's aluminum units. Is one procedure better than the other when retrofitting an aluminum unit?
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Re: [GMCnet] Radiator [message #141884 is a reply to message #140136] Wed, 31 August 2011 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So that's why all the talk on the earlier thread about grounding and electrolysis? Starting to make sense now. How much is the applied gmc one and more importantly, what would you do jim? (B.t.w. I haven't had any luck with surplus oe air cleaner tins but I'm still lookin)

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Sully
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aluminum radiator that we sell are far more capacity than the 500 one.
If you know what a West Coast Radiator is , you know why they named it that.
Few of the smart people got the 500 aluminum ones in and are
scratching their head as to why they are not cooling so well.
Gene Dotson and Jim Buchanan did some research before they went that route.
As long as you take proper precaution to ground them, they will last.
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Re: [GMCnet] Radiator [message #141952 is a reply to message #141884] Thu, 01 September 2011 07:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Sully,
Another thing you can do is replace the drain petcock with a sacrificial
anode available from Summit. This is very effective in aluminum radiators.

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:17 PM, <sgltrac@gmail.com> wrote:

> So that's why all the talk on the earlier thread about grounding and
> electrolysis? Starting to make sense now. How much is the applied gmc one
> and more importantly, what would you do jim? (B.t.w. I haven't had any luck
> with surplus oe air cleaner tins but I'm still lookin)
>
> Thanks
>
> Sully
> 77 royale
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>
> aluminum radiator that we sell are far more capacity than the 500 one.
> If you know what a West Coast Radiator is , you know why they named it
> that.
> Few of the smart people got the 500 aluminum ones in and are
> scratching their head as to why they are not cooling so well.
> Gene Dotson and Jim Buchanan did some research before they went that route.
> As long as you take proper precaution to ground them, they will last.
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Re: [GMCnet] Radiator [message #141953 is a reply to message #141952] Thu, 01 September 2011 07:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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great input,

do you have a link to the actual part?

hi Steve
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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sully,
>  Another thing you can do is replace the drain petcock with a sacrificial
> anode available from Summit.  This is very effective in aluminum radiators.
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:17 PM, <sgltrac@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So that's why all the talk on the earlier thread about grounding and
>> electrolysis? Starting to make sense now. How much is the applied gmc one
>> and more importantly, what would you do jim? (B.t.w. I haven't had any luck
>> with surplus oe air cleaner tins but I'm still lookin)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Sully
>> 77 royale
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Jim Kanomata
>> Sender: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> ReplyTo: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Radiator
>> Sent: Aug 31, 2011 3:07 PM
>>
>> aluminum radiator that we sell are far more capacity than the 500 one.
>> If you know what a West Coast Radiator is , you know why they named it
>> that.
>> Few of the smart people got the 500 aluminum ones in and are
>> scratching their head as to why they are not cooling so well.
>> Gene Dotson and Jim Buchanan did some research before they went that route.
>> As long as you take proper precaution to ground them, they will last.
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Re: [GMCnet] Radiator [message #141962 is a reply to message #141953] Thu, 01 September 2011 08:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Remove the front grille, and the radiator can come out the front of the coach. That's how Marc did it on his diesel installation. Still have to un-bolt and remove the frame as a whole assembly.
five days to leave for International.
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Re: [GMCnet] Radiator [message #141977 is a reply to message #141952] Thu, 01 September 2011 10:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steven Ferguson wrote on Thu, 01 September 2011 07:24

Sully,
Another thing you can do is replace the drain petcock with a sacrificial anode available from Summit. This is very effective in aluminum radiators.
How often do you need to replace the sacrificial anode?
Re: [GMCnet] Radiator [message #141997 is a reply to message #140136] Thu, 01 September 2011 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In the marine world when aluminum fuel tanks are used only stainless steel fittings are to be used to attach any other fittings to tanks, no brass, copper or bronze. This same rule should be applied to your aluminum radiator, No brass, bronze or copper should be directly connected to aluminum, there should be a steel fitting between radiator and any brass or copper, fittings or lines, preferably ss.

Dan Winchester
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Steven Ferguson wrote on Thu, 01 September 2011 07:24
> Sully,
> Another thing you can do is replace the drain petcock with a sacrificial anode available from Summit. This is very effective in aluminum radiators.
How often do you need to replace the sacrificial anode?
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Re: [GMCnet] Radiator [message #142032 is a reply to message #140136] Thu, 01 September 2011 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks all who chimed in! I am waiting for performance to bring my rad back so I can get other quotes as there are a few radiator artisans left in the area. They were supposed to bring it back today but it never showed.....

Sully
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Picked my recore up yesterday...$425..one of the few places around here that still does it.. been here forever. Asked how the tanks looked, said great condition, boiled them out should last another 30 some years. Do your research...get a good value...take the doubters at face value. It isn't always necessary to spend a bucket of money to get the job done.
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Re: [GMCnet] Radiator [message #142036 is a reply to message #142032] Thu, 01 September 2011 20:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

I'm going to save Gene some trouble and note:

Read this:

http://gmcmotorhome.info/radiator.html#core

Regards,
Rob M.

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Thanks all who chimed in! I am waiting for performance to bring my rad back so I can get other quotes as there are a few radiator
artisans left in the area. They were supposed to bring it back today but it never showed.....

Sully
77 royale
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From: R D Hart

Picked my recore up yesterday...$425..one of the few places around here that still does it.. been here forever. Asked how the tanks
looked, said great condition, boiled them out should last another 30 some years. Do your research...get a good value...take the
doubters at face value. It isn't always necessary to spend a bucket of money to get the job done.

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Re: [GMCnet] Radiator [message #142037 is a reply to message #140136] Thu, 01 September 2011 20:36 Go to previous message
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Thanks rob! Its been starred for whenever I get my rad back:(

Sully
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G'day,

I'm going to save Gene some trouble and note:

Read this:

http://gmcmotorhome.info/radiator.html#core

Regards,
Rob M.

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From: sgltrac@gmail.com

Thanks all who chimed in! I am waiting for performance to bring my rad back so I can get other quotes as there are a few radiator
artisans left in the area. They were supposed to bring it back today but it never showed.....

Sully
77 royale
------Original Message------
From: R D Hart

Picked my recore up yesterday...$425..one of the few places around here that still does it.. been here forever. Asked how the tanks
looked, said great condition, boiled them out should last another 30 some years. Do your research...get a good value...take the
doubters at face value. It isn't always necessary to spend a bucket of money to get the job done.

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