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Re: Spindle Failures [message #139164 is a reply to message #139153] |
Sun, 14 August 2011 19:56 |
jknezek
Messages: 1057 Registered: December 2007
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One of my rear spindles got stripped earlier this year but it was after the bearing froze. I can't recall Jeff at Alex Sirrum mentioning it as a failure he'd ever seen. One day he and I went sailing on Lake Okeechobee and I got him to think through every odd GMC disaster he'd ever heard of. That one did not come up.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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Re: [GMCnet] Spindle Failures [message #139168 is a reply to message #139153] |
Sun, 14 August 2011 20:01 |
James Hupy
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Carl, those rear spindles are overengineered by at least 100 percent. The
only ones that I have personally seen were failed because of failed bearings
due to too long an interval between repacking, or too tight an adjustment on
the roller bearings. If you clean and inspect the bearings and spindles,
replace the seals, and repack with synpower grease by Valvoline, you should
be good to go for a very long time.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 5:25 PM, noi <v76_Birchaven@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Greetings:
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> I am curious to know if anyone has ever had, or heard of someone having, a
> rear wheel spindle failure – I know there have been rear wheel “spindle
> bearing” failures for various reasons, but I am curious about failures
> involving the spindles themselves.
>
> The reason I ask is that while I have my ‘bogies’ off/apart for some R&R
> and upgrades, I was wondering if there was any need to have the spindles get
> some NDT (non-destructive testing) using Dye Penetrant / Magnaflux / X-Ray.
>
> But if there have been no reported/known problems with the spindles, I’ll
> just Dye Penatrent check them for no other reason than “because I can” :d
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> Thanks for any information you may have.
>
> Carl P.
> 76 Birchaven
> South of Fremont
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Re: [GMCnet] Spindle Failures [message #139179 is a reply to message #139173] |
Sun, 14 August 2011 20:39 |
jknezek
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emerystora wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 21:16 |
On Aug 14, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Jeremy wrote:
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> One of my rear spindles got stripped earlier this year but it was after the bearing froze. I can't recall Jeff at Alex Sirrum mentioning it as a failure he'd ever seen. One day he and I went sailing on Lake Okeechobee and I got him to think through every odd GMC disaster he'd ever heard of. That one did not come up.
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> Thanks,
> Jeremy Knezek
That surprises me that Jeff has not seen it.
I have helped at least three GMCers replace their spindle after the bearing froze and either broke or exited the wheel. Then the wheel runs on the spindle threads for a while until the wheel falls off. This grinds down or strips the threads and requires spindle replacement.
The last one I worked on was Kerry Tandy's when he lost his wheel near the west enterance of Yellowstone on the way to a GMCWS rally in Cody, WY.
I had to find bearings locally and drive my car about 90 miles each way to and through Yellowstone to reach his GMC. I had a thread file and I was able to file the threads enough to get a new nut onto the spindle so we could get back to the Cody campground where we could get the spindle out and replaced.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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Emery -- I probably wasn't clear. I'm sure Jeff has dealt with frozen bearings causing the spindle to strip, that's what happened to me. The original inquiry was about whether a spindle could simply fail, not a failure due to a different cause such as a frozen bearing.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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Re: [GMCnet] Spindle Failures [message #139326 is a reply to message #139153] |
Mon, 15 August 2011 18:03 |
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USAussie
Messages: 15912 Registered: July 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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G'day,
Wasn't there a service bulletin from GMC on the spindles? Or was that the
bogie pins?
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of noi
Greetings:
I am curious to know if anyone has ever had, or heard of someone having, a
rear wheel spindle failure – I know there have been rear wheel
“spindle bearing” failures for various reasons, but I am curious
about failures involving the spindles themselves.
The reason I ask is that while I have my ‘bogies’ off/apart for
some R&R and upgrades, I was wondering if there was any need to have the
spindles get some NDT (non-destructive testing) using Dye Penetrant /
Magnaflux / X-Ray.
But if there have been no reported/known problems with the spindles,
I’ll just Dye Penatrent check them for no other reason than
“because I can” :d
Thanks for any information you may have.
Carl
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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