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Terry Lytle is currently offline  Terry Lytle   Canada
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Hi all was poking around pics of DixieLanders at Noccalva Falls and noticed Paul and Billy Bennets coach seems to have a side exiting exaust am i correct if correct does it exit both sides or just one.
The pic is about the 21st.I ask this as i have always entertained the idea of a set of "laker" style pipes on my GMC. Has anybody done this or seen this.Think this would be way cool and just a little redneck.Any thoughts ,pics ,links, advice on this modifacation
Re: [GMCnet] Side exaust [message #135067 is a reply to message #135062] Mon, 18 July 2011 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Terry,

Not sure about Paul's GMC exhaust.

Chuck Garton had twin side exhausts on one of his coaches, however, IIRC it
burned to the ground because the hot exhausts baked the fuel lines and they
sprang a leak.

http://www.gmcpc.org/archive/3rd_fuel_tank.pdf

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Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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Subject: [GMCnet] Side exaust

Hi all was poking around pics of DixieLanders at Noccalva Falls and noticed
Paul and Billy Bennets coach seems to have a side exiting exaust am i
correct if correct does it exit both sides or just one.
The pic is about the 21st.I ask this as i have always entertained the idea
of a set of "laker" style pipes on my GMC. Has anybody done this or seen
this.Think this would be way cool and just a little redneck.Any thoughts
,pics ,links, advice on this modifacation


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Re: Side exaust [message #135068 is a reply to message #135062] Mon, 18 July 2011 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Terry Lytle wrote on Mon, 18 July 2011 18:13

Hi all was poking around pics of DixieLanders at Noccalva Falls and noticed Paul and Billy Bennets coach seems to have a side exiting exaust am i correct if correct does it exit both sides or just one.
The pic is about the 21st.I ask this as i have always entertained the idea of a set of "laker" style pipes on my GMC. Has anybody done this or seen this.Think this would be way cool and just a little redneck.Any thoughts ,pics ,links, advice on this modifacation








Terry: yes they are functional and exit both sides.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=36335&title=100-5421&cat=5612


C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
Re: Side exaust [message #135071 is a reply to message #135068] Mon, 18 July 2011 18:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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C Boyd wrote on Mon, 18 July 2011 18:35

Terry Lytle wrote on Mon, 18 July 2011 18:13

Hi all was poking around pics of DixieLanders at Noccalva Falls and noticed Paul and Billy Bennets coach seems to have a side exiting exaust am i correct if correct does it exit both sides or just one.
The pic is about the 21st.I ask this as i have always entertained the idea of a set of "laker" style pipes on my GMC. Has anybody done this or seen this.Think this would be way cool and just a little redneck.Any thoughts ,pics ,links, advice on this modifacation








Terry: yes they are functional and exit both sides.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=36335&title=100-5421&cat=5612





Terry: Here is the other side, sorry.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=30200&title=paul-and-billie-bennet&cat=5238


C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
Re: Side exaust [message #135072 is a reply to message #135068] Mon, 18 July 2011 18:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Leipold is currently offline  Michael Leipold   United States
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I have dual pipes exiting on the driver side, very similar to the exhaust in the pic.

1973 GMC 26' Glacier - Unknown Mileage - Has a new switch pitch transmission with Powerdrive Smile
Re: Side exaust [message #135074 is a reply to message #135062] Mon, 18 July 2011 18:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have been looking at putting side pipes on my 76 Palm Beach when I replace the exaust this winter. Seeing this pic just makes me all the more sure i want them.



Mark Grueninger 76 Palm Beach Valmeyer IL
Re: [GMCnet] Side exaust [message #135095 is a reply to message #135062] Mon, 18 July 2011 20:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Terry;

Here's pictures of the CamoGMC with the lakepipes on it. Will have
to ask my son how long they were. The album has the installation
process and more pictures before the boys did the paintjob...

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=39841&title=drivers-side&cat=5821

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Terry Lytle <telytle@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> Hi all was poking around pics of DixieLanders at Noccalva Falls and noticed Paul and Billy Bennets coach seems to have a side exiting exaust am i correct if correct does it exit both sides or just one.
> The pic is about the 21st.I ask this as i have always entertained the idea of a set of "laker" style pipes on my GMC. Has anybody done this or seen this.Think this would be way cool and just a little redneck.Any thoughts ,pics ,links, advice on this modifacation

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Gary and Diana Berry
73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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Re: Side exaust [message #135098 is a reply to message #135062] Mon, 18 July 2011 20:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Check with your inspection station, they may be illegal since there are windows aft of the exhaust tips.

Hardie Johnson "Crashj"
1973 26 foot Glacier, White Thing
Raleigh NC

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Re: Side exaust [message #135117 is a reply to message #135098] Mon, 18 July 2011 22:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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I wouldn't put side exhaust on a motorhome.
Too hard to make a decent performing and quiet system.
AND the exhaust noise will enter the coach in the middle making it louder


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Re: [GMCnet] Side exaust [message #135126 is a reply to message #135067] Tue, 19 July 2011 00:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good idea,but not on a coach as the sound from the door bottom is loud.

Jim Kanomata Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA jimk@appliedairfilters.com http://www.appliedgmc.com 1-800-752-7502
Re: [GMCnet] Side exaust [message #135139 is a reply to message #135126] Tue, 19 July 2011 06:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Leipold is currently offline  Michael Leipold   United States
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I would prefer a rear exiting exhaust over what I have today. Yes, it is loud, and when I come to a stop, I can smell the exhaust coming in the drivers front window. I changed out my mufflers to Dynomax Super Turbo's and they are much quieter than flowmasters. I know in some states, the exhaust must exit behind the rearmost opening window.

Someday, when I can afford headers and do the exhaust right, I will run it out the back.

I have a driveway with a peak at the top, and I have to air the suspension all the way up to clear the peak, otherwise the exhaust clamps drag where the pipe goes under the frame. You do lose ground clearance with a side exhaust.


1973 GMC 26' Glacier - Unknown Mileage - Has a new switch pitch transmission with Powerdrive Smile
Re: [GMCnet] Side exaust [message #135152 is a reply to message #135139] Tue, 19 July 2011 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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Sidepipes don't belong on a motorhome...

There is only one car they belong on, well maybe lake pipes on a lead sled...

But maybe I'm biased......

69 Corvette with sidepipes / 75 GMC
http://www.corvettengineering.com/photos/Painting/P1040739-1.jpg


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Re: [GMCnet] Side exaust [message #135223 is a reply to message #135152] Tue, 19 July 2011 15:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice Vette, Actually I think with those five slot mags, lakers would look good on a motorhome. It's "period correct" y'know? Laughing Laughing Rolling Eyes


Keith V wrote on Tue, 19 July 2011 06:54

Sidepipes don't belong on a motorhome...

There is only one car they belong on, well maybe lake pipes on a lead sled...

But maybe I'm biased......

69 Corvette with sidepipes / 75 GMC
http://www.corvettengineering.com/photos/Painting/P1040739-1.jpg



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Re: Side exaust [message #135237 is a reply to message #135062] Tue, 19 July 2011 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm also considering a sidepipe setup too, but would run mine a little differently intergrating an H-pipe setup tp balance the offset exhaust pulses, and resonated pipes to keep the sound mellow. I think the coach would benifit from an H-pipe setup with headers....

73 Canyon Lands, (a.k.a. The Yellow Submarine) West Los Angeles CA
Re: Side exaust [message #135292 is a reply to message #135237] Wed, 20 July 2011 06:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Leipold is currently offline  Michael Leipold   United States
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From all the research I did, an X pipe would provide more low end power on our motorhomes.

Duce Apocalypse wrote on Tue, 19 July 2011 18:05

I'm also considering a sidepipe setup too, but would run mine a little differently intergrating an H-pipe setup tp balance the offset exhaust pulses, and resonated pipes to keep the sound mellow. I think the coach would benifit from an H-pipe setup with headers....



1973 GMC 26' Glacier - Unknown Mileage - Has a new switch pitch transmission with Powerdrive Smile
Re: [GMCnet] Side exaust [message #135303 is a reply to message #135292] Wed, 20 July 2011 07:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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History has shown that exiting your exhaust before the rear windows may allow
the exhaust to be sucked in through the leaks in those bedroom windows.  If you
have a rear bath model without any back side windows you may be fine.  Folks
used to and still do this but I would be careful thinking through the issues
with scavenger pipes.

Yes, it seems like using the "Y" pipe just behind the motor to balance out the
heads as they do in many Fords does seem to work well.  Also, in taking the
muffler to the back I feel also helps by both balancing the motor and letting
the length of pipe to the back be a tuning port for the system should also
help.  I seems to keep the muffler a bit cooler and if you do have a backfire it
may not blow up the muffler.  I also like putting the muffler heat in the back--
of course be sure you have adequit heat shielding!

Jim  Bounds
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From all the research I did, an X pipe would provide more low end power on our
motorhomes.

Duce Apocalypse wrote on Tue, 19 July 2011 18:05
> I'm also considering a sidepipe setup too, but would run mine a little
>differently intergrating an H-pipe setup tp balance the offset exhaust pulses,
>and resonated pipes to keep the sound mellow. I think the coach would benifit
>from an H-pipe setup with headers....


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Re: [GMCnet] Side exaust [message #135316 is a reply to message #135292] Wed, 20 July 2011 09:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Michael,

What is an "X" pipe?

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From all the research I did, an X pipe would provide more low end power on
our motorhomes.


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Re: [GMCnet] Side exaust [message #135324 is a reply to message #135316] Wed, 20 July 2011 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob, an "X" pipe is used on dual exhaust systems to balance exhaust pulses
between cylinder heads. It is normally placed in the forward 1/3 of the
system, after the headers and before the mufflers. Imagine it as a dual
crossover where the exhaust from the dr side crosses over to the pass side
and vice versa. It is not used in a 2 into 1 system like the GMC stock
exhaust, as the 'Y" pipe accomplishes the same thing more or less. At the
RPMs that out GMCs operate, benefits are slight. The correctly sized headers
will do more for low and mid range torque than a dual system. I am not the
only one who thinks this way, ask Dick Paterson.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:

> Michael,
>
> What is an "X" pipe?
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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> From all the research I did, an X pipe would provide more low end power on
> our motorhomes.
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Re: Side exaust [message #135334 is a reply to message #135062] Wed, 20 July 2011 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree with a single exhaust, an x pipe is not needed.
But I already have a dual exhaust and someone mentioned adding an H-pipe.


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Re: [GMCnet] Side exaust [message #135339 is a reply to message #135334] Wed, 20 July 2011 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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An "H" pipe is usually just a short connecting pipe welded between the L & R
sides. Cheaper than an "X", but doesn't flow downstream as well as the "X".
The largest benefit to be had from exhaust modifications more often than
not, is elimination of any sharp bends or protruding materials into the
exhaust stream. Smooth transitions between heads and headers, and any joints
or curves show improvements in flow. At high RPMs the benefits are much
greater. What can kill low end and mid range torque is often too large
inside diameter in the areas immediately downstream from the cylinder heads,
ie; too large of header tubes.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403 Doug Thorley headers, two straight through welded in
mufflers, "Y" pire, 2 1/2 in the rest of the way to the rear bumper.


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