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| Gary Rockwell's Aluminum Intake Manifold [message #134632] |
Thu, 14 July 2011 17:45  |
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ljdavick
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Browsing around the photo site I just happened upon Gary's great photos detailing the development of his aluminum intake manifold. He must have a ton of hours into this thing, but the result sure is nice.
Thank you Gary. You've done a good thing for us, and when my piggy bank is too full I'll stuff one of your manifolds under my hatch.
Take a look - this is quite a journey.
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3738>
Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, Ca
Howell EFI + EBL + Electronic Dizzy
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| Re: Gary Rockwell's Aluminum Intake Manifold [message #134635 is a reply to message #134632] |
Thu, 14 July 2011 18:15  |
Chr$
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I got mine today. Very nice.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gary Rockwell's Aluminum Intake Manifold [message #134639 is a reply to message #134632] |
Thu, 14 July 2011 18:47 |
Gary Rockwell
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Thanks for the kind words. I know sometimes people complain about the
price, but they have no idea what it really cost to make.
This was a really good learning experience for me. I am very proud of the
fact that Joe Mondello himself purchased several manifolds and his company
continues to do so. Cinnabar, Sirum, GMC Coop, Grandview, and Applied GMC
also use them all quite sucessfully. Several of the fuel injection
companies have used them too.
I have been running mine for several years now. I realy like the fact that
my engine compartment is much cooler, I did not have to raise the dog house,
nor did I have to deal with putting heavy metal into an already heavy cast
iron manifold.
This was really a GMC club effort. All lot of fellow GMCers pitched in to
help as well.
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Browsing around the photo site I just happened upon Gary's great photos
> detailing the development of his aluminum intake manifold. He must have a
> ton of hours into this thing, but the result sure is nice.
>
> Thank you Gary. You've done a good thing for us, and when my piggy bank is
> too full I'll stuff one of your manifolds under my hatch.
>
> Take a look - this is quite a journey.
>
> <http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3738>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3738
> --
> Larry Davick
> The Mystery Machine
> 1976(ish) Palm Beach
> Fremont, Ca
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| Re: Gary Rockwell's Aluminum Intake Manifold [message #134685 is a reply to message #134632] |
Thu, 14 July 2011 22:58 |
Chr$
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Gary, can you get some photos of the Fuelie applications?
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gary Rockwell's Aluminum Intake Manifold [message #134736 is a reply to message #134732] |
Fri, 15 July 2011 18:09 |
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USAussie
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Steve,
I agree with you, however, here's the strange thing. The MM manual says to
torque from the outside in and so does the Edelbrock instructions. I called
Edelbrock tech support and got a young kid who, after looking up their
instructions, said something along the lines of; "you're right, let me ask
Joe, he's been here for years, maybe he'll know." He put me on hold for a
few minutes and when he came back on he noted that Joe told him Edelbrock
copied what Olds said to do. The last time we discussed this on the GMCnet
we came to the conclusion that it might have been done like that because the
OEM gasket is the turkey tray which is very thin. If you use a fiber gasket
with a block off plate then you go from the inside out. I just looked at my
1972 Caddy 500 manual and it too has a turkey tray; the intake manifold
instructions just say to torque the bolts down to 30 ft lb but don't give
the sequence.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Ferguson
Same. The torque rating is for the fasteners, not the intake manifold
itself. Start from the middle and work out, alternating sides, do this
several times. I've gone around as many as 6 times to achieve the correct
torque.
Steve Ferguson
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Rob M. (USAussie)
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gary Rockwell's Aluminum Intake Manifold [message #134784 is a reply to message #134736] |
Sat, 16 July 2011 07:53 |
Steven Ferguson
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Rob,
I only do what works and the method I use is tried and true. However, I
also would never use a turkey tray either.
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:
> Steve,
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> I agree with you, however, here's the strange thing. The MM manual says to
> torque from the outside in and so does the Edelbrock instructions. I called
> Edelbrock tech support and got a young kid who, after looking up their
> instructions, said something along the lines of; "you're right, let me ask
> Joe, he's been here for years, maybe he'll know." He put me on hold for a
> few minutes and when he came back on he noted that Joe told him Edelbrock
> copied what Olds said to do. The last time we discussed this on the GMCnet
> we came to the conclusion that it might have been done like that because
> the
> OEM gasket is the turkey tray which is very thin. If you use a fiber gasket
> with a block off plate then you go from the inside out. I just looked at my
> 1972 Caddy 500 manual and it too has a turkey tray; the intake manifold
> instructions just say to torque the bolts down to 30 ft lb but don't give
> the sequence.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Ferguson
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> Same. The torque rating is for the fasteners, not the intake manifold
> itself. Start from the middle and work out, alternating sides, do this
> several times. I've gone around as many as 6 times to achieve the correct
> torque.
>
> Steve Ferguson
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| Re: Gary Rockwell's Aluminum Intake Manifold [message #135219 is a reply to message #134632] |
Tue, 19 July 2011 15:35 |
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ljdavick
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Well, it's time to crash the piggy-bank on the floor and buy the manifold. I brought the coach to Applied and asked Nick to install the blocking plates. I'm running out of time for next week's jaunt.
He reports that the manifold is cracked and sucking oil <sigh>.
Perhaps this will reduce the stink we get from the engine when idling and after shut down. Now I need Dan's glass hatch, not because my engine is so pretty, but because I want to see my money! ;~)
Where would I be without Garry's aluminum manifold? Trying to find a foundry to repair the thing or raising a dog-house on the hatch to allow another manifold?
Sheesh. I am kind of excited to try it out. Now my list is getting small, let's see, Reaction Arms, Hublers, Howell TBI, EBL, Odyssey seats, new wheels, paint, upholstery, Fantastic Fans, Pertronix for the Onan, spruce up the cabinets, new counter top.
It's getting much closer. I'll have it done before I'm 85, for sure!
Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, Ca
Howell EFI + EBL + Electronic Dizzy
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gary Rockwell's Aluminum Intake Manifold [message #135247 is a reply to message #135219] |
Tue, 19 July 2011 18:44 |
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Ah, that's whose coach I saw Alonzo working on this
afternoon....
tt
On 7/19/2011 1:35 PM, Larry Davick wrote:
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> Well, it's time to crash the piggy-bank on the floor and buy the manifold. I brought the coach to Applied and asked Nick to install the blocking plates. I'm running out of time for next week's jaunt.
>
> He reports that the manifold is cracked and sucking oil<sigh>.
>
> Perhaps this will reduce the stink we get from the engine when idling and after shut down. Now I need Dan's glass hatch, not because my engine is so pretty, but because I want to see my money! ;~)
>
> Where would I be without Garry's aluminum manifold? Trying to find a foundry to repair the thing or raising a dog-house on the hatch to allow another manifold?
>
> Sheesh. I am kind of excited to try it out. Now my list is getting small, let's see, Reaction Arms, Hublers, Howell TBI, EBL, Odyssey seats, new wheels, paint, upholstery, Fantastic Fans, Pertronix for the Onan, spruce up the cabinets, new counter top.
>
> It's getting much closer. I'll have it done before I'm 85, for sure!
>
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