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Sun, 10 July 2011 21:48  |
Mike Teets
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The project moves to the next phase. Foam was purchased. The cutting of the foam was much easier than I expected.
See YouTube video at: http://youtu.be/NNI6TQaldcg
I was able to cut the patterns from the existing seating. Everything was going so well... until... (1) my machine got out of time and stopped tying stitches and (2) the fabric I purchased is so thick that 8 layers on the corner were almost 3/4 inch thick!
Re-timing my machine was a learning process. I was able to purchase a detailed manual for a similar machine at SailRite http://sailrite.com I probably should have just purchased the machine from them in the first place but I picked one up elsewhere for much less. In hindsight, I probably wasted more time than I saved in money. Lesson learned.
Sewing 8 layers is just to much to ask for anything but a serious large HP industrial machine. Back to the drawing board and was able to pull it off without including the edge welting.
I will try to document some of the procedures for the above project after I learn to do it well. I am getting close to knowing what I am doing!
Mike, GMCing since 2002
77 Palm Beach, 260, 403
Dublin, OH
http://teamteets.com/gmc/
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Upholstery Part III [message #134428 is a reply to message #134103] |
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ljdavick
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Wow, Mike. You're a trooper!
I used to enjoy watching Joe L'Erario and Ed Feldman "Furniture on the Mend", or "Furniture to Go", or "The Furniture Guys" on HGTV some years ago. They were all the same show, just searching for a name. The two guys, I think they were from Philly, would reupholster furniture and refinish the hardwood with a very funny banter. I never thought I'd try it, but after looking at your video I'm thinking it's worth a try.
Did you get any quotes for labor, or did you always assume this was your baby to diaper?
I've never met a Mike of all trades...
Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA
On Jul 10, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Mike Teets wrote:
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> The project moves to the next phase. Foam was purchased. The cutting of the foam was much easier than I expected.
>
> See YouTube video at: http://youtu.be/NNI6TQaldcg
>
> I was able to cut the patterns from the existing seating. Everything was going so well... until... (1) my machine got out of time and stopped tying stitches and (2) the fabric I purchased is so thick that 8 layers on the corner were almost 3/4 inch thick!
>
> Re-timing my machine was a learning process. I was able to purchase a detailed manual for a similar machine at SailRite http://sailrite.com. I probably should have just purchased the machine from them in the first place but I picked one up elsewhere for much less. In hindsight, I probably wasted more time than I saved in money. Lesson learned.
>
> Sewing 8 layers is just to much to ask for anything but a serious large HP industrial machine. Back to the drawing board and was able to pull it off without including the edge welting.
>
> I will try to document some of the procedures for the above project after I learn to do it well. I am getting close to knowing what I am doing!
>
>
> --
> Mike
> 77 Palm Beach, 260, 403
> Dublin, OH
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> http://teamteets.org/category/gmc/
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| Re: GMC Upholstery Part III [message #134440 is a reply to message #134103] |
Wed, 13 July 2011 07:52 |
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mike miller
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| Mike Teets wrote on Sun, 10 July 2011 19:48 |
The project moves to the next phase. ...
See YouTube video at: http://youtu.be/NNI6TQaldcg
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I like the closing credits. Seems that after some ribbing on not giving credit to the cameraman, you ensure everyone involved got some credit!
You said something about not decided if you where going to use buttons...
From what little I know, don't the buttons need holes punched in the foam? ... BEFORE assembly? (It is possible I am confused between two styles.)
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Upholstery Part III [message #134578 is a reply to message #134428] |
Thu, 14 July 2011 12:09 |
Mike Teets
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Why I am doing it myself: I had gotten an estimate at a shop that has done
many GMC's before, mostly 73-74 versions with cushions. The price they
quoted was around $4000 including the fabric but new foam being higher.
They would only do it if I brought in the pieces removed from the coach.
Since much of the 77 upholstery is affixed to walls and seat bases with
pattern matching issues, and much that had been butchered by previous
owners, I was concerned that it would not come out correctly. I also wanted
clean and paint the metal frames before upholstery... they were
uncomfortable with me removing all the fabric then bringing it in to them in
pieces.
I do enjoy learning new things... Upholstery has been a mystery to me. I
had the machine for sail repair work so it seemed like I ought to just give
it a try. If I failed, I could always go back to finding someone to do it.
I will add this as number 31 on my list of fallback careers should things go
really bad.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
> Wow, Mike. You're a trooper!
>
> I used to enjoy watching Joe L'Erario and Ed Feldman "Furniture on the
> Mend", or "Furniture to Go", or "The Furniture Guys" on HGTV some years ago.
> They were all the same show, just searching for a name. The two guys, I
> think they were from Philly, would reupholster furniture and refinish the
> hardwood with a very funny banter. I never thought I'd try it, but after
> looking at your video I'm thinking it's worth a try.
>
> Did you get any quotes for labor, or did you always assume this was your
> baby to diaper?
>
> I've never met a Mike of all trades...
>
> Larry Davick
> The Mystery Machine
> 1976(ish) Palm Beach
> Fremont, CA
>
> On Jul 10, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Mike Teets wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > The project moves to the next phase. Foam was purchased. The cutting of
> the foam was much easier than I expected.
> >
> > See YouTube video at: http://youtu.be/NNI6TQaldcg
> >
> > I was able to cut the patterns from the existing seating. Everything was
> going so well... until... (1) my machine got out of time and stopped tying
> stitches and (2) the fabric I purchased is so thick that 8 layers on the
> corner were almost 3/4 inch thick!
> >
> > Re-timing my machine was a learning process. I was able to purchase a
> detailed manual for a similar machine at SailRite http://sailrite.com. I
> probably should have just purchased the machine from them in the first place
> but I picked one up elsewhere for much less. In hindsight, I probably
> wasted more time than I saved in money. Lesson learned.
> >
> > Sewing 8 layers is just to much to ask for anything but a serious large
> HP industrial machine. Back to the drawing board and was able to pull it
> off without including the edge welting.
> >
> > I will try to document some of the procedures for the above project after
> I learn to do it well. I am getting close to knowing what I am doing!
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mike
> > 77 Palm Beach, 260, 403
> > Dublin, OH
> >
> > http://teamteets.org/category/gmc/
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Upholstery Part III [message #134579 is a reply to message #134440] |
Thu, 14 July 2011 12:18 |
Mike Teets
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It wasn't just credits this time... this is the first they all came out and
started helping. I think they were avoiding me until I figured out how to
do it... probably a good idea on their part. I am a little irritable when I
don't know what I am doing! It is probably safe now.
Buttons: No, there isn't holes punched in the foam, at least in the OEM
upholstery. There is a long needle that you punch through from the top
with the button attached to thread. Then you pull the button down and tie
off to a piece on the back side. You do need access to the back side of
the foam so I did take that into account when making the upright portion of
the seat.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Mike Teets wrote on Sun, 10 July 2011 19:48
> > The project moves to the next phase. ...
> >
> > See YouTube video at: http://youtu.be/NNI6TQaldcg
> >
> > ....
>
>
> I like the closing credits. Seems that after some ribbing on not giving
> credit to the cameraman, you ensure everyone involved got some credit!
>
> You said something about not decided if you where going to use buttons...
>
> From what little I know, don't the buttons need holes punched in the foam?
> ... BEFORE assembly? (It is possible I am confused between two styles.)
>
>
>
> --
> Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
> (#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23'
> Birchaven Side Bath
> http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Upholstery Part III [message #134582 is a reply to message #134579] |
Thu, 14 July 2011 12:36 |
Gary Worobec
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Mike, That is exactly how I did mine. Used the button tufting and then a
small piece of aluminum welding rod to tie off the button. You lay out the
pattern on the plywood base, drill the holes and then transfer the holes in
the base to the upholstery. Here is a pic;
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=22706&title=new-dinette&cat=4841
Thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Teets" <teamteets@gmail.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Upholstery Part III
> It wasn't just credits this time... this is the first they all came out
> and
> started helping. I think they were avoiding me until I figured out how to
> do it... probably a good idea on their part. I am a little irritable when
> I
> don't know what I am doing! It is probably safe now.
>
> Buttons: No, there isn't holes punched in the foam, at least in the OEM
> upholstery. There is a long needle that you punch through from the top
> with the button attached to thread. Then you pull the button down and tie
> off to a piece on the back side. You do need access to the back side of
> the foam so I did take that into account when making the upright portion
> of
> the seat.
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
> ere
>>
>>
>> Mike Teets wrote on Sun, 10 July 2011 19:48
>> > The project moves to the next phase. ...
>> >
>> > See YouTube video at: http://youtu.be/NNI6TQaldcg
>> >
>> > ....
>>
>>
>> I like the closing credits. Seems that after some ribbing on not giving
>> credit to the cameraman, you ensure everyone involved got some credit!
>>
>> You said something about not decided if you where going to use buttons...
>>
>> From what little I know, don't the buttons need holes punched in the
>> foam?
>> ... BEFORE assembly? (It is possible I am confused between two styles.)
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
>> (#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77
>> 23'
>> Birchaven Side Bath
>> http://m000035.blogspot.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Upholstery Part III [message #134600 is a reply to message #134582] |
Thu, 14 July 2011 14:31 |
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ljdavick
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Gary,
That is good looking work you've done to your coach! Frankly I liked the look of the upholstered seat without buttons when I saw Mike's work, but now that I see yours I think I'd go for the buttons.
Nice work!
Larry Davick
Fremont, California
The Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Worobec" <gtw5@earthlink.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:36:30 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Upholstery Part III
Mike, That is exactly how I did mine. Used the button tufting and then a
small piece of aluminum welding rod to tie off the button. You lay out the
pattern on the plywood base, drill the holes and then transfer the holes in
the base to the upholstery. Here is a pic;
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=22706&title=new-dinette&cat=4841
Thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Upholstery Part III [message #134601 is a reply to message #134600] |
Thu, 14 July 2011 14:36 |
Gary Worobec
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Yes, the buttons hide a a lot!. The hardest part was sewing the seams
straight. I have a Pfaff 130 machine that will sew through sheet metal!!! So
it doesn't have the fine touch of a new machine.
Thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Davick" <ljdavick@comcast.net>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Upholstery Part III
> Gary,
>
> That is good looking work you've done to your coach! Frankly I liked the
> look of the upholstered seat without buttons when I saw Mike's work, but
> now that I see yours I think I'd go for the buttons.
>
> Nice work!
>
> Larry Davick
> Fremont, California
> The Mystery Machine
> '76 (ish) Palm Beach
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Worobec" <gtw5@earthlink.net>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:36:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Upholstery Part III
>
> Mike, That is exactly how I did mine. Used the button tufting and then a
> small piece of aluminum welding rod to tie off the button. You lay out the
> pattern on the plywood base, drill the holes and then transfer the holes
> in
> the base to the upholstery. Here is a pic;
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=22706&title=new-dinette&cat=4841
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary and Joanne Worobec
> 1973 GMC Glacier
> Anza, CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Upholstery Part III [message #134628 is a reply to message #134578] |
Thu, 14 July 2011 17:01 |
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ljdavick
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Considering how well the first cushion turned out you should be very happy with the results.
Then again, I'll just bet there were times you would have paid $4 Grand to get the damned thing done!
Go Team Teets! I can't wait for the next video.
Larry Davick
Fremont, California
The Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Teets" <teamteets@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:09:33 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Upholstery Part III
Why I am doing it myself: I had gotten an estimate at a shop that has done
many GMC's before, mostly 73-74 versions with cushions. The price they
quoted was around $4000 including the fabric but new foam being higher.
They would only do it if I brought in the pieces removed from the coach.
Since much of the 77 upholstery is affixed to walls and seat bases with
pattern matching issues, and much that had been butchered by previous
owners, I was concerned that it would not come out correctly. I also wanted
clean and paint the metal frames before upholstery... they were
uncomfortable with me removing all the fabric then bringing it in to them in
pieces.
I do enjoy learning new things... Upholstery has been a mystery to me. I
had the machine for sail repair work so it seemed like I ought to just give
it a try. If I failed, I could always go back to finding someone to do it.
I will add this as number 31 on my list of fallback careers should things go
really bad.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Upholstery Part III [message #134649 is a reply to message #134579] |
Thu, 14 July 2011 20:14 |
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mike miller
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| Mike Teets wrote on Thu, 14 July 2011 10:18 |
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Buttons: No, there isn't holes punched in the foam, at least in the OEM
upholstery. There is a long needle that you punch through from the top
with the button attached to thread. Then you pull the button down and tie
off to a piece on the back side. ...
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I think I was reading about deeper placed buttons. (Button Tuft or Diamond Tuft.) I did a web search an found some interesting information. Years ago I remember an article about button tufting a car seat that required very little (if any) sewing.
As I am not very sure of what I am thinking, maybe I should think about a upholstery class. The local community collage has classes for $175 in tuition and fees. (Plus materials.) While it is a few years before I am at this stage with my keeper coach, I do have a couple of coaches to "practice" on. 
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
http://m000035.blogspot.com
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