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Your thoughts on toad brakes [message #133642] Thu, 07 July 2011 10:28 Go to next message
zhagrieb is currently offline  zhagrieb   United States
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Any you like? Don't like? Got one for sale?

Glenn Giere


Glenn Giere, Portland OR, K7GAG '73 "Moby the Motorhome" 26'
Re: Your thoughts on toad brakes [message #133695 is a reply to message #133642] Thu, 07 July 2011 16:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Sharpe is currently offline  John Sharpe   United States
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IMHO you need them. In a pinch you could use Ken Henderson's $30 toad brake
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=3065&cat=3291

Ken had a lot of the stuff on hand. If you have to buy it all in Houston better have at least $200. Those cruise control diaphragms and vacuum pumps are getting harder to find.


Of course there's the Buddies. Jim K sells the US Gear Unified Tow Brake and it is a good one. The M&G Tow Brake is nice and may be the ultimate http://www.m-gengineering.com/


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Re: Your thoughts on toad brakes [message #133703 is a reply to message #133642] Thu, 07 July 2011 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Glenn, what are you planning to tow? When I ran drums on the rear I needed all the braking I could get, while towing the Vibe, 2725 dry weight. You know it was never "dry".
With the discs on the rear the toad brake would never come on unless I smashed the pedal, did not need the thing. It was a Roadmaster Brakepro.
So, I got rid of it.
Would never tell anyone not to have one but with the Reaction Arm and Discs it was a waste for me.
Dan


3 In Stainless Exhaust Headers One Ton All Discs/Reaction Arm 355 FD/Quad Bag/Alum Radiator Manny Tran/New eng. Holley EFI/10 Tire Air Monitoring System Solarized Coach/Upgraded Windows Satelite TV/On Demand Hot Water/3Way Refer
Re: Your thoughts on toad brakes [message #133706 is a reply to message #133642] Thu, 07 July 2011 17:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fred v is currently offline  fred v   United States
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if you like to build things have a look at "A GMC-specific Toad Brake System" on the GMCES web site n the tech section.


Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
Re: [GMCnet] Your thoughts on toad brakes [message #133714 is a reply to message #133706] Thu, 07 July 2011 18:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Or, if the budget's really tight, you might try:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=28985&title=the-ultimate-proportio&cat=5153

http://goo.gl/ECyIr

(Notice the posting date at the end of the Photo Details.)

Ken H.


On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:32 PM, fred veenschoten wrote:

>
>
> if you like to build things have a look at "A GMC-specific Toad Brake
> System" on the GMCES web site n the tech section.
>
>
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Re: Your thoughts on toad brakes [message #133734 is a reply to message #133642] Thu, 07 July 2011 20:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Glenn Giere wrote on Thu, 07 July 2011 11:28

Any you like? Don't like? Got one for sale?
Glenn Giere

Like gravity, "Not just a good idea, it's the law."
"in some cases"


Hardie Johnson "Crashj"
1973 26 foot Glacier, White Thing
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Re: Your thoughts on toad brakes [message #133743 is a reply to message #133642] Thu, 07 July 2011 21:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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I have a Brake Buddy. While traveling through Oklahoma City last winter, all of a sudden all traffic on freeway was at a halt. My first thought was "I'm not gonna make it". I hit the brakes hard and felt the Brake Buddy apply to my toad. We stopped with plenty of room to spare. My coach actually stops shorter with a toad than it does solo. Gotta do that reaction arm thing...maybe next summer.


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: Your thoughts on toad brakes [message #133754 is a reply to message #133642] Thu, 07 July 2011 22:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
zhagrieb is currently offline  zhagrieb   United States
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Thanks all, some great stuff. With all the railroads here in Portland a short section of rail should be easy. Dan, car is a Honda Accord wagon, about 3200#. I have most of an older SMI off Craigs List and can steal from Ken's ideas and come up with one that works.

Glenn


Glenn Giere, Portland OR, K7GAG '73 "Moby the Motorhome" 26'
Re: [GMCnet] Your thoughts on toad brakes [message #133757 is a reply to message #133703] Thu, 07 July 2011 22:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have personally used and have seen 20units Alex and Jeff sirunm have
installed the US Gear Unified brake system.
You do not need to drag a box around and play with the brake pedal
when hooking or unhooking it.
I can get one to you complete for around $900. List is 1290.
There will be situations where this simple set up will avoid frustration.
You can always get used ones and gamble.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Glenn, what are you planning to tow? When I ran drums on the rear I needed all the braking I could get, while towing the Vibe, 2725 dry weight. You know it was never "dry".
> With the discs on the rear the toad brake would never come on unless I smashed the pedal, did not need the thing. It was a Roadmaster Brakepro.
> So, I got rid of it.
> Would never tell anyone not to have one but with the Reaction Arm and Discs it was a waste for me.
> Dan
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Re: [GMCnet] Your thoughts on toad brakes [message #133769 is a reply to message #133757] Fri, 08 July 2011 07:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have the Brake Buddy. If, for some really odd reason, the car breaks free
from the coach, the brake unit will apply pressure and stop the car from
going off without the coach.

Aren't some states requiring a braking system if towing four down?

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Jim Kanomata wrote:

> I have personally used and have seen 20units Alex and Jeff sirunm have
> installed the US Gear Unified brake system.
> You do not need to drag a box around and play with the brake pedal
> when hooking or unhooking it.
> I can get one to you complete for around $900. List is 1290.
> There will be situations where this simple set up will avoid frustration.
> You can always get used ones and gamble.
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Glenn, what are you planning to tow? When I ran drums on the rear I needed
>> all the braking I could get, while towing the Vibe, 2725 dry weight. You know
>> it was never "dry".
>> With the discs on the rear the toad brake would never come on unless I
>> smashed the pedal, did not need the thing. It was a Roadmaster Brakepro.
>> So, I got rid of it.
>> Would never tell anyone not to have one but with the Reaction Arm and Discs
>> it was a waste for me.
>> Dan
>> --
>> Dan & Teri Gregg
>> Soft White LED Lighting
>>
>> http://danandteri.blogspot.com/
>>


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Re: [GMCnet] Your thoughts on toad brakes [message #133773 is a reply to message #133769] Fri, 08 July 2011 07:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I found this site that has the States towing laws for RV in a very
good format. When reviewing them you will find that the ones that do
require braking for the towed for most the limit is more than 3000#.

http://www.readybrake.com/state_laws.html

The US Gear unit that Jim K sells is an awesome unit and works very
well and his price is hare to beat! I know a number of GMC'ers that
have it and are happy.

I have a system made my TowV Aire. I have it for almost 8 years and
it works great too1

http://www.tow-v-aire.com/

J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan

On Jul 8, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Byron Songer wrote:

> We have the Brake Buddy. If, for some really odd reason, the car
> breaks free
> from the coach, the brake unit will apply pressure and stop the car
> from
> going off without the coach.
>
> Aren't some states requiring a braking system if towing four down?
>
> --
>
> Byron Songer
> Louisville, KY
> http://www.gmceast.com
>
>
>
> Jim Kanomata wrote:
>
>> I have personally used and have seen 20units Alex and Jeff sirunm
>> have
>> installed the US Gear Unified brake system.
>> You do not need to drag a box around and play with the brake pedal
>> when hooking or unhooking it.
>> I can get one to you complete for around $900. List is 1290.
>> There will be situations where this simple set up will avoid
>> frustration.
>> You can always get used ones and gamble.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Glenn, what are you planning to tow? When I ran drums on the rear
>>> I needed
>>> all the braking I could get, while towing the Vibe, 2725 dry
>>> weight. You know
>>> it was never "dry".
>>> With the discs on the rear the toad brake would never come on
>>> unless I
>>> smashed the pedal, did not need the thing. It was a Roadmaster
>>> Brakepro.
>>> So, I got rid of it.
>>> Would never tell anyone not to have one but with the Reaction Arm
>>> and Discs
>>> it was a waste for me.
>>> Dan
>>> --
>>> Dan & Teri Gregg
>>> Soft White LED Lighting
>>>
>>> http://danandteri.blogspot.com/
>>>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Your thoughts on toad brakes [message #133776 is a reply to message #133773] Fri, 08 July 2011 08:08 Go to previous message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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That should read "Hard to beat" in the previous post.

As a general comment and JMHO! It makes no sense NOT to have a
breaking system on your tow unit. As many have said their coach and
tow stop better towing than when not towing. It only cost a little
bit less to do it right the first time than fixing the problem
afterwards.

J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan



> I found this site that has the States towing laws for RV in a very
> good format. When reviewing them you will find that the ones that do
> require braking for the towed for most the limit is more than 3000#.
>
> http://www.readybrake.com/state_laws.html
>
> The US Gear unit that Jim K sells is an awesome unit and works very
> well and his price is hare to beat! I know a number of GMC'ers that
> have it and are happy.
>
> I have a system made my TowV Aire. I have it for almost 8 years and
> it works great too1
>
> http://www.tow-v-aire.com/
>
> J.R. Wright
> GMC GreatLaker
> 78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
> 1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
> Michigan
>
> On Jul 8, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Byron Songer wrote:
>
>> We have the Brake Buddy. If, for some really odd reason, the car
>> breaks free
>> from the coach, the brake unit will apply pressure and stop the car
>> from
>> going off without the coach.
>>
>> Aren't some states requiring a braking system if towing four down?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Byron Songer
>> Louisville, KY
>> http://www.gmceast.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim Kanomata wrote:
>>
>>> I have personally used and have seen 20units Alex and Jeff sirunm
>>> have
>>> installed the US Gear Unified brake system.
>>> You do not need to drag a box around and play with the brake pedal
>>> when hooking or unhooking it.
>>> I can get one to you complete for around $900. List is 1290.
>>> There will be situations where this simple set up will avoid
>>> frustration.
>>> You can always get used ones and gamble.

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