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Mon, 04 July 2011 18:10  |
jhbridges
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I have a concern: The turn signals on my coach operate even when the ignition is in the lock popsition. I know the emergency flasher should still operate, but the turn signals? The ignition is off - I even checked at the HEI. Instruments are off. Niormal? Or eerie? It's a '76 transmide.
thanks,
Johnny
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| Re: [GMCnet] electrics [message #133332 is a reply to message #133322] |
Mon, 04 July 2011 19:32  |
John Sharpe
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I have a concern: The turn signals on my coach operate even when the ignition is in the lock popsition. I know the emergency flasher should still operate, but the turn signals? The ignition is off - I even checked at the HEI. Instruments are off. Niormal? Or eerie? It's a '76 transmide.
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Johnny, somebody has put a jumper somewhere. Happy Hunting.
John Sharpe
Humble,TX
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'89 Spectrum 2000 MPI V-10
'40 Ford Panel Delivery TPI
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| Re: [GMCnet] electrics [message #133333 is a reply to message #133332] |
Mon, 04 July 2011 20:27 |
Ken Henderson
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Johnny,
My turn signals always work also. I haven't moved nor jumped anything
-- 'cause that's the way it's supposed to be.
I just checked the wiring diagrams for '75 & '77 Transmodes and MH's.
That's too small a sample to be certain, but apparently Transmodes'
Turn Signals are powered from the Battery Buss. The MH's' are powered
from the Ignition Buss. The Hazard Warning Lights are powered from
the Battery Buss in all cases.
Big Surprise for me!
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:32 PM, John Sharpe <johnasharpe@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>> I have a concern: The turn signals on my coach operate even when the ignition is in the lock popsition. I know the emergency flasher should still operate, but the turn signals? The ignition is off - I even checked at the HEI. Instruments are off. Niormal? Or eerie? It's a '76 transmide.
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> Johnny, somebody has put a jumper somewhere. Happy Hunting.
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| Re: [GMCnet] electrics [message #133337 is a reply to message #133332] |
Mon, 04 July 2011 20:48 |
jhbridges
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I was afraid of that. Chance to see how closely it follows the schematic in the book I suppose.
--johnny
--- On Tue, 7/5/11, John Sharpe <johnasharpe@earthlink.net> wrote:
From: John Sharpe <johnasharpe@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] electrics
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2011, 12:32 AM
Quote:
> I have a concern: The turn signals on my coach operate even when the ignition is in the lock popsition. I know the emergency flasher should still operate, but the turn signals? The ignition is off - I even checked at the HEI. Instruments are off. Niormal? Or eerie? It's a '76 transmide.
Johnny, somebody has put a jumper somewhere. Happy Hunting.
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John Sharpe
Humble,TX
'78 Eleganza TBI
'89 Spectrum 2000 V-10
'40 Ford Deluxe TBI
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| Re: [GMCnet] electrics [message #133338 is a reply to message #133333] |
Mon, 04 July 2011 20:53 |
jhbridges
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OK, I feel better then. I suppose I could move the feed, but I'll leave it like it is. Wonder why they done it that way... except maybe with all the batteries in the front, some ppot figured they saved a dime's worth of wire abnd a lug's worth of labor.
Anyway thanks, I won't worry over it further.
You go Gadsden in a couple weeks? The BWD will wag his tail for you.
--johnny
--- On Tue, 7/5/11, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] electrics
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2011, 1:27 AM
Johnny,
My turn signals always work also. I haven't moved nor jumped anything
-- 'cause that's the way it's supposed to be.
I just checked the wiring diagrams for '75 & '77 Transmodes and MH's.
That's too small a sample to be certain, but apparently Transmodes'
Turn Signals are powered from the Battery Buss. The MH's' are powered
from the Ignition Buss. The Hazard Warning Lights are powered from
the Battery Buss in all cases.
Big Surprise for me!
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:32 PM, John Sharpe <johnasharpe@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>> I have a concern: The turn signals on my coach operate even when the ignition is in the lock popsition. I know the emergency flasher should still operate, but the turn signals? The ignition is off - I even checked at the HEI. Instruments are off. Niormal? Or eerie? It's a '76 transmide.
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> Johnny, somebody has put a jumper somewhere. Happy Hunting.
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| Re: [GMCnet] electrics [message #133339 is a reply to message #133338] |
Mon, 04 July 2011 21:02 |
Ken Henderson
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Johnny,
I'm sure the power source could be changed right at the fuse panel
with no extra wire. I've thought about it. But it has the advantage
that when checking lights after hooking up the toad, I don't have to
leave the ignition on -- just leave the driver's window open, reach
through it, and flip the lever.
I'm looking forward to seeing the BWD. :-)
Ken H.
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Johnny Bridges wrote:
> OK, I feel better then. I suppose I could move the feed, but I'll leave it like it is. Wonder why they done it that way... except maybe with all the batteries in the front, some ppot figured they saved a dime's worth of wire abnd a lug's worth of labor.
> Anyway thanks, I won't worry over it further.
> You go Gadsden in a couple weeks? The BWD will wag his tail for you.
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| Re: [GMCnet] electrics [message #133340 is a reply to message #133332] |
Mon, 04 July 2011 21:27 |
Ray Erspamer
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A jumper or someone rewired and hooked them to a HOT instead of Keyed.
Shouldn't be too hard to find. But, it's not a show stopper, if they're not
left on they won't draw any current.
Ray
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From: John Sharpe <johnasharpe@earthlink.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Mon, July 4, 2011 7:32:51 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] electrics
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> I have a concern: The turn signals on my coach operate even when the ignition
>is in the lock popsition. I know the emergency flasher should still operate,
>but the turn signals? The ignition is off - I even checked at the HEI.
>Instruments are off. Niormal? Or eerie? It's a '76 transmide.
Johnny, somebody has put a jumper somewhere. Happy Hunting.
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John Sharpe
Humble,TX
'78 Eleganza TBI
'89 Spectrum 2000 V-10
'40 Ford Deluxe TBI
mailto:johnasharpe@gmail.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] electrics [message #133341 is a reply to message #133333] |
Mon, 04 July 2011 21:29 |
Ray Erspamer
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There ya go, Ken "splained" it very well, now it makes sense. Our coach went
to Coachmen as a transmode, I'll have to see if ours work all the time.
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Mon, July 4, 2011 8:27:46 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] electrics
Johnny,
My turn signals always work also. I haven't moved nor jumped anything
-- 'cause that's the way it's supposed to be.
I just checked the wiring diagrams for '75 & '77 Transmodes and MH's.
That's too small a sample to be certain, but apparently Transmodes'
Turn Signals are powered from the Battery Buss. The MH's' are powered
from the Ignition Buss. The Hazard Warning Lights are powered from
the Battery Buss in all cases.
Big Surprise for me!
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:32 PM, John Sharpe <johnasharpe@earthlink.net> wrote:
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> Quote:
>> I have a concern: The turn signals on my coach operate even when the ignition
>>is in the lock popsition. I know the emergency flasher should still operate,
>>but the turn signals? The ignition is off - I even checked at the HEI.
>> Instruments are off. Niormal? Or eerie? It's a '76 transmide.
>
>
> Johnny, somebody has put a jumper somewhere. Happy Hunting.
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| Re: [GMCnet] electrics [message #133375 is a reply to message #133322] |
Tue, 05 July 2011 07:59 |
Ken Burton
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Believe it or not, What you are describing is NORMAL OPERATION. I chased it down one time in the wiring diagrams. It was something to do with how they integrated the 4 way flasher and turn signal switch. I do not remember exactly any more.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] electrics [message #133378 is a reply to message #133375] |
Tue, 05 July 2011 09:13 |
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| Ken Burton wrote on Tue, 05 July 2011 05:59 |
Believe it or not, What you are describing is NORMAL OPERATION. ...
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I was thinking the same thing... I seemed to remember checking the towd lights by reaching in the driver's window and turning on the the blinkers and running lights. This is on my '73 ex-PaintD. (GM upfitted) and '77/'78 Birchavens (Transmodes). I wasn't going to comment with out double checking.
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| Re: [GMCnet] electrics [message #133379 is a reply to message #133378] |
Tue, 05 July 2011 09:16 |
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| Mike Miller wrote on Tue, 05 July 2011 09:13 |
| Ken Burton wrote on Tue, 05 July 2011 05:59 |
Believe it or not, What you are describing is NORMAL OPERATION. ...
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I was thinking the same thing... I seemed to remember checking the towd lights by reaching in the driver's window and turning on the the blinkers and running lights. This is on my '73 ex-PaintD. (GM upfitted) and '77/'78 Birchavens (Transmodes). I wasn't going to comment with out double checking.
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Mike, I bet we have a lot of owners running out today to see if the blinkers work with no key.
Dan
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