Update on time bomb wire [message #133085] |
Sat, 02 July 2011 12:08 |
Don Walton
Messages: 50 Registered: September 2007
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I have managed to remove the wire which connects the house battery to engine battery. All I can say is that after the panels are off it is not that bad a job to get out. Getting it back in is yet to be seen. The way the wire was in my coach makes me want to say that if you think you might have a deteriorating wire you should really check it. I thought mine was ok after it was into the wall but the insulation was cracked and falling off in some places even where the sun/heat had never gotten to it. I really wonder how it had not started a fire. After I got it out I measured the length and came up with about 26 feet plus a little. I know that NAPA has 00 wire in 25 foot lengths but I am afraid I will be short. I guess I will find some bulk wire. I am going to try to put up pictures of all this on the GMC site. Wish me luck!
Don Walton in NC,
75 Glenbrook,
too many MGs
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Re: Update on time bomb wire [message #133087 is a reply to message #133085] |
Sat, 02 July 2011 12:25 |
Don A
Messages: 895 Registered: October 2008 Location: Dallas, TX
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Home Depot and Lowe's have your wire.
Don Adams Dallas, TX
'76 26' Glenbrook, '90 Sidekick
rebuilt by R Archer, powered by J Bounds, Koba [IMG]http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6109/G2.jpg[/IMG]
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Re: Update on time bomb wire [message #133095 is a reply to message #133085] |
Sat, 02 July 2011 14:05 |
spiffycar
Messages: 133 Registered: May 2010 Location: Brook Park ,Ohio
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West Marine or a similar store would be a good source for that heavy of a gauge wire as well.
Paul W L
76 Daytona Beach! ( EX-Palm Beach )
Cleveland,OH
& Current Card Carrying Pull A Part VIP Member
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Re: Update on time bomb wire [message #133125 is a reply to message #133122] |
Sat, 02 July 2011 18:48 |
Don Walton
Messages: 50 Registered: September 2007
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Not hard to strip, you can peel the insulation off with your fingers. I think I am going to order some of the 00 wire that Matt suggested.
Don Walton in NC,
75 Glenbrook,
too many MGs
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Re: Update on time bomb wire [message #133140 is a reply to message #133124] |
Sat, 02 July 2011 21:00 |
Don Walton
Messages: 50 Registered: September 2007
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I am going to try to get the new wire into the wall like the old wire was. I have run lots of wire through lots of tight places before. I am going to run it in conduit in the front of the coach so there won't be any exposed wire. I think I can do it without letting any of the smoke out of the wire!
Don Walton in NC,
75 Glenbrook,
too many MGs
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Re: [GMCnet] Update on time bomb wire [message #133147 is a reply to message #133103] |
Sat, 02 July 2011 21:33 |
jhbridges
Messages: 8412 Registered: May 2011 Location: Braselton ga
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In in '66, out in '88.
--Johnny MSGT, ret'd (FANG)
--- On Sat, 7/2/11, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Update on time bomb wire
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 8:21 PM
Don Walton wrote on Sat, 02 July 2011 13:41
> Always have it with me. USAF Photo 71-74
We were in during some of the same years. I got out in 76.
Teri keeps mine in the glove box. We only use it on a good size purchase.
Dan
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Re: Update on time bomb wire [message #133198 is a reply to message #133134] |
Sun, 03 July 2011 13:16 |
bukzin
Messages: 840 Registered: April 2004 Location: North California
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WD0AFQ wrote on Sat, 02 July 2011 17:31 | What about running the new wire through an old garden hose? I don't have that cable as all of my 5 batteries are up front but I think I heard someone using garden hose to insulate.
Dan
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Like that idea, gives room for a pull wire as well as more
conductors.
Plus 5 years from now I may actually be able to find it!
Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
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Re: Update on time bomb wire [message #133472 is a reply to message #133085] |
Wed, 06 July 2011 02:45 |
PETEinLongBeach
Messages: 90 Registered: June 2007 Location: Long Beach, CA
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The insulation on the visible portion of the cable in my coach still looks intact, although stiff from age. So, it's on the list to replace at some point. I'm guessing the best way is to remove the stove, and pull the new cable from the junction behind the cabinet. If a guide string/wire is attached to the old cable as it is removed, can a new cable just be pulled through without hanging up or getting misguided at some point along the inside body?
Pete Smay
Long Beach, CA
1977 Kingsley
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Re: Update on time bomb wire [message #133476 is a reply to message #133472] |
Wed, 06 July 2011 07:01 |
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gordh1
Messages: 332 Registered: February 2011
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Hi Pete,
Figure the wiring was majority in the 'body' so I wager for ease of assembly it was done as it was. IMO no reason other than 'originality' to run the wire back through the wall. What I found was that the plastic wire cover on 'Scruffy' had in numerous places, opened up due to the foam expansion or foam leaks when sprayed, and the foam was even stuck to the wire in a couple of places.
Considering it's not a car with somewhat easy to pop off panels or trim, I wouldn't hesitate to run wires along the chassis. The garden hose idea is pretty cool but that's rubber and from what I've found, nothing made of rubber stands the test of time. I was considering some of that plastic electric conduit (weight conscious) but imagine how nifty, clean and safe, metal conduit tucked up high and run along the frame could be?
For what that's worth, geeze - the wire is 'bare' in the hot engine compartment, and if a good quality wire was used and fastened with care, I see no reason it couldn't run along the frame on its own. Easy to check / inspect and if it shorted it sure would be a lot harder for it to set fire to the wall.
Imho,
Gord
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