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PETEinLongBeach is currently offline  PETEinLongBeach   United States
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After months of sorting things out at home, and more months in the shop for bearings, brakes, boots, batteries, tires, etc... I finally took the coach on its first outing over the weekend. Other than a couple of minor issues, there were no major surprises.

I do have one silly issue and could use some advice. I find the power cord to be quite awkward to re-coil and stuff back into the small recepticle compartment, especially since the compartment door doesn't have a stay to hold open. I'm assuming I have the original heavy 50 amp cord, which is pretty challenging to coil-up and re-install even on a warm day.

So, just wondering if anyone has any advice or technique that works best for them. This thing is a pain to put away...

Thanks !


Pete Smay
Long Beach, CA
1977 Kingsley
Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132178 is a reply to message #132173] Mon, 27 June 2011 01:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Pete,

If the plug on your power cord has three flat connectors and one round one
it is a 50 amp if it has two flat connectors and one round one it is 30 amp.

Double Trouble has a 50 amp power cord and I agree whole heartedly that it
is a bugger to wrap up.

On Avions it is in a galvanized box on the driver's side under an access
door which I modified to enable me to remove it completely.

Starting at the end that is inside the box I shove it back into the box
forcing it against the inside "walls" of the box. It comes out of the upper
right rear corner of the box so I wrap it counter clockwise: forward side,
bottom, rear side, top, forward side, bottom, rear side, top, and so on
until it is all stuffed in. The last thing that goes in is the plug. The
cord is coiled up against the inside "walls" which leaves room in the middle
to put my 25 ft 30 amp extension, my two 15 amp extensions, various power
adapters, water filter, and various water adapters.

Unfortunately I am in Sydney at the moment and can't send you a picture.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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Subject: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique

After months of sorting things out at home, and more months in the shop for
bearings, brakes, boots, batteries, tires, etc... I finally took the coach
on its first outing over the weekend. Other than a couple of minor issues,
there were no major surprises.

I do have one silly issue and could use some advice. I find the power cord
to be quite awkward to re-coil and stuff back into the small recepticle
compartment, especially since the compartment door doesn't have a stay to
hold open. I'm assuming I have the original heavy 50 amp cord, which is
pretty challenging to coil-up and re-install even on a warm day.

So, just wondering if anyone has any advice or technique that works best for
them. This thing is a pain to put away...

Thanks !
--
Pete Smay
Long Beach, CA
1977 Kingsley


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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132179 is a reply to message #132173] Mon, 27 June 2011 02:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Everybody with the heavy 50 amp cord hates it. Welcome to the club.

On keeping the door open, get yourself a small round magnet about the size of a quarter. Attach it magnetically to the door lock and put adhesive on the other flat side. Now open the door and let the adhesive stick to the side of the coach. Once the adhesive sets, you now have a magnet door holder. I have had one for years. I think I got the idea from Emery.



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76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132183 is a reply to message #132178] Mon, 27 June 2011 02:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 6/27/2011 1:58 AM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Pete,
>
> If the plug on your power cord has three flat connectors and one round one
> it is a 50 amp if it has two flat connectors and one round one it is 30 amp.
>
> Double Trouble has a 50 amp power cord and I agree whole heartedly that it
> is a bugger to wrap up.
>
> On Avions it is in a galvanized box on the driver's side under an access
> door which I modified to enable me to remove it completely.
>
> Starting at the end that is inside the box I shove it back into the box
> forcing it against the inside "walls" of the box. It comes out of the upper
> right rear corner of the box so I wrap it counter clockwise: forward side,
> bottom, rear side, top, forward side, bottom, rear side, top, and so on
> until it is all stuffed in. The last thing that goes in is the plug. The
> cord is coiled up against the inside "walls" which leaves room in the middle
> to put my 25 ft 30 amp extension, my two 15 amp extensions, various power
> adapters, water filter, and various water adapters.
>
> Unfortunately I am in Sydney at the moment and can't send you a picture.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Pete
> Sent: Monday, 27 June 2011 4:07 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding& storage technique
>
> After months of sorting things out at home, and more months in the shop for
> bearings, brakes, boots, batteries, tires, etc... I finally took the coach
> on its first outing over the weekend. Other than a couple of minor issues,
> there were no major surprises.
>
> I do have one silly issue and could use some advice. I find the power cord
> to be quite awkward to re-coil and stuff back into the small recepticle
> compartment, especially since the compartment door doesn't have a stay to
> hold open. I'm assuming I have the original heavy 50 amp cord, which is
> pretty challenging to coil-up and re-install even on a warm day.
>
> So, just wondering if anyone has any advice or technique that works best for
> them. This thing is a pain to put away...
>
> Thanks !
I have not gotten to this stage of my rebuild yet but when I do I
thought I would attempt to make a shore power cord holder rack that
bolted to the spare tire's attachment lugs and allowed me to coil onto
something vs. stuff into something. Since this is a pricey piece of gear
to store outside I figured I would need to make some sort of locking
cover. I use these heavy generator cords at work to power
telecommunications gear when commercial power is out (mine is 150ft long
and would do a WWF wrestler proud). I think I may have seen this done
with a garden hose too. Speaking of which, what is the length most
people use for RV's? Thanks.

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Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132184 is a reply to message #132183] Mon, 27 June 2011 02:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PETEinLongBeach is currently offline  PETEinLongBeach   United States
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Sounds like I'm coiling up my power cord the same way Rob does. I guess it's about the only way to do it, given the configuration and confines of the compartment. Damn fat cord, though... hard to manage. I'm thinking about just leaving it coiled up as neatly as possible in the compartment, and using an auxillery 30 amp cord and adaptor connected to it. I only have 1 roof air, so I'm guessing 30 amp service would be enough.

I like Ken's / Emery's idea for the magnetic catch - I'll be putting one on next week.


Pete Smay
Long Beach, CA
1977 Kingsley
Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132187 is a reply to message #132184] Mon, 27 June 2011 04:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have heard it said that if you are in an aircraft in distress and need to
bail out and all the parachutes are spoken for, just grab an extension cord
and jump. The damn thing will hang up on something before you reach the
ground.<Grin> My 78 Royale has a cord compartment that is under the bunk on
the driver side, and pulls out of a small opening near the rear of the
coach. It is self storing, much easier than the amidship hose and cord
locker arrangement on the earlier GM upfitted coaches which I agree are a
PITA to use. I remember seeing a spare tire turned around with a storage
reel made to fit in the center of the wheel. That looked slick, don't know
how well that it worked.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Pete <peteinlb@aol.com> wrote:

>
>
> Sounds like I'm coiling up my power cord the same way Rob does. I guess
> it's about the only way to do it, given the configuration and confines of
> the compartment. Damn fat cord, though... hard to manage. I'm thinking
> about just leaving it coiled up as neatly as possible in the compartment,
> and using an auxillery 30 amp cord and adaptor connected to it. I only have
> 1 roof air, so I'm guessing 30 amp service would be enough.
>
> I like Ken's / Emery's idea for the magnetic catch - I'll be putting one
> on next week.
> --
> Pete Smay
> Long Beach, CA
> 1977 Kingsley
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Re: Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132188 is a reply to message #132173] Mon, 27 June 2011 04:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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PETEinLongBeach wrote on Sun, 26 June 2011 23:07

... I find the power cord to be quite awkward to re-coil and stuff back into the small recepticle compartment, especially since the compartment door doesn't have a stay to hold open. ...


I only have this problem with my first coach, Coachman coaches have a different method.

First, get something to hold the door open. There are several different ways but this seems to be the easiest:

<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1252>

I alway like to have the cord plugged in to the generator when underway. I want to be able to run the roof AC while going down the road but more important it is a nice safety back-up.

Here is where you say "What???" And I tell you my story:
Quote:

Going up the Columbia Gorge on a dark night, I started having electrical issues. I took the first off-ramp and the coach died right in the middle of the off-ramp, in the dark, without street lighting. There was NO power to anything on the chassis side, no emergency flashers or lights of any kind. Very little power on on the house side. (Wife had been watching TV and the single deep cycle was bad.) Luckily the Onan had a separate GOOD battery. I have needed to quickly fire up the gen set to supply power to the chassis systems... Almost got hit three times before getting the Onan running, lights back on and coach restarted.

If the power cord wasn't plugged in, it would have been much longer getting the lights back on.

When I got the coach running, we drove to a truck stop and went to sleep. I fixed my electrical problem the next morning... in the light... in a nice "safe" parking lot.


SO.... I like to keep the cord plugged in.

The cord is easier to wrap when warm. If you can let it sit in the sun a bit it will help.

Pull the cord out straight and double it back on itself to plug it in. Then I stuff the cord into "the hole" wrapping in the direction that seemed to work best. (I can't remember but I think it was counter clockwise.) The end loop just barely fits.

Note: When parked, if you put any amount of power through the cord, it is best if you do not leave the cord coiled up in the compartment. You should pull it all the way out and run it straight along the side of the coach. This will reduce the heat build-up in the cord from the A/C voltage and coiled wires. You do not have a choice when driving.


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Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132190 is a reply to message #132184] Mon, 27 June 2011 06:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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cut the sucker off short --- then use power cords that fit the load---- look
here -- even a video to show you how the door holder works ($5) answer

http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/body.html#DOOR

still plugs into the Onan connector, and is easy to plug in adaptors. I
use a small extension cord for the lights and charger, ( since I never use
the roof AC ;>). But I carry a larger extension cord in the coach, if I
need 35 or 50 amps.

works great on my 2 GMCs
gene

I'm thinking about just leaving it coiled up as neatly as possible in the
compartment, and using an auxillery 30 amp cord and adaptor connected to it.
I only have 1 roof air, so I'm guessing 30 amp service would be enough.


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Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132191 is a reply to message #132190] Mon, 27 June 2011 06:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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also this is a good idea to reduce the - coiled cord- problem

http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/chassis.html#SHORE

gene



On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>wrote:

> cut the sucker off short --- then use power cords that fit the load----
> look here -- even a video to show you how the door holder works ($5) answer
>
> http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/body.html#DOOR
>
> still plugs into the Onan connector, and is easy to plug in adaptors. I
> use a small extension cord for the lights and charger, ( since I never use
> the roof AC ;>). But I carry a larger extension cord in the coach, if I
> need 35 or 50 amps.
>
> works great on my 2 GMCs
> gene
>
>
> I'm thinking about just leaving it coiled up as neatly as possible in the
> compartment, and using an auxillery 30 amp cord and adaptor connected to it.
> I only have 1 roof air, so I'm guessing 30 amp service would be enough.
>
>
> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
> -------
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>



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Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132199 is a reply to message #132188] Mon, 27 June 2011 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike,

I've never done any calculations to evaluate the proposition, but most
of the RV world's position is that coiling the excess power cord is a
GOOD idea. The theory is that the inductance will attenuate line
voltage surges, such as for nearby lightning strikes.

Personally, I doubt that either straight or coiled will significantly
affect anything.

Ken H.


On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Mike Miller wrote:
>
>...
> Note: When parked, if you put any amount of power through the cord, it is best if you do not leave the cord coiled up in the compartment.  You should pull it all the way out and run it straight along the side of the coach.   This will reduce the heat build-up in the cord from the A/C voltage and coiled wires.  You do not have a choice when driving.
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132201 is a reply to message #132183] Mon, 27 June 2011 07:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Again, this thread is long, no time to look at it all but the "reel delivery"
system that CLASCO put in was on the difficult side to use.  To bypass the big
bucks of a 50 amp contactor to allow the reel to turn while connected, a plug
was put at the middle of the reel, I know because I designed it and yes-- it was
hard to use though if you got used to it the set up would work.  There can be
improvements made to the system to make it easier to use. The first ones were
mounted inside the utility door and accessable from the inside compartment if it
got twisted up.  I mounted a couple in the generator compartment where it was
more difficult to get at.  The idea was good but it needs improving.

Jim Bounds
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Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 3:22:20 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique

On 6/27/2011 1:58 AM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Pete,
>
> If the plug on your power cord has three flat connectors and one round one
> it is a 50 amp if it has two flat connectors and one round one it is 30 amp.
>
> Double Trouble has a 50 amp power cord and I agree whole heartedly that it
> is a bugger to wrap up.
>
> On Avions it is in a galvanized box on the driver's side under an access
> door which I modified to enable me to remove it completely.
>
> Starting at the end that is inside the box I shove it back into the box
> forcing it against the inside "walls" of the box. It comes out of the upper
> right rear corner of the box so I wrap it counter clockwise: forward side,
> bottom, rear side, top, forward side, bottom, rear side, top, and so on
> until it is all stuffed in. The last thing that goes in is the plug. The
> cord is coiled up against the inside "walls" which leaves room in the middle
> to put my 25 ft 30 amp extension, my two 15 amp extensions, various power
> adapters, water filter, and various water adapters.
>
> Unfortunately I am in Sydney at the moment and can't send you a picture.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Pete
> Sent: Monday, 27 June 2011 4:07 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding&  storage technique
>
> After months of sorting things out at home, and more months in the shop for
> bearings, brakes, boots, batteries, tires, etc...  I finally took the coach
> on its first outing over the weekend.  Other than a couple of minor issues,
> there were no major surprises.
>
> I do have one silly issue and could use some advice.  I find the power cord
> to be quite awkward to re-coil and stuff back into the small recepticle
> compartment, especially since the compartment door doesn't have a stay to
> hold open.  I'm assuming I have the original heavy 50 amp cord, which is
> pretty challenging to coil-up and re-install even on a warm day.
>
> So, just wondering if anyone has any advice or technique that works best for
> them.  This thing is a pain to put away...
>
> Thanks !
I have not gotten to this stage of my rebuild yet but when I do I
thought I would attempt to make a shore power cord holder rack that
bolted to the spare tire's attachment lugs and allowed me to coil onto
something vs. stuff into something. Since this is a pricey piece of gear
to store outside I figured I would need to make some sort of locking
cover. I use these heavy generator cords at work  to power
telecommunications gear when commercial power is out (mine is 150ft long
and would do a WWF wrestler proud). I think I may have seen this done
with a garden hose too. Speaking of which, what is the length most
people use for RV's? Thanks.

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Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132203 is a reply to message #132199] Mon, 27 June 2011 08:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ACK - put this in the wrong thread the first time.
 

It makes a difference.  Put a set of 135 volt MOVs across ech hot feed to ground and a couple turns in the power cord, and you'll keep the smoke inside the TV set and the inverters.  MOVs take a small amount of time to clamp, and the added inductance will intergarte the leading edge of the lightning pulse a bit (slow its rise time)  enough to keeop the peak voltage which appears in the coach substantially lower.  When you find tidbits of the MOVs and blast marks in their box, they have dione their job.
 
--johnny



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From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Monday, June 27, 2011, 12:29 PM


Mike,

I've never done any calculations to evaluate the proposition, but most
of the RV world's position is that coiling the excess power cord is a
GOOD idea.  The theory is that the inductance will attenuate line
voltage surges, such as for nearby lightning strikes.

Personally, I doubt that either straight or coiled will significantly
affect anything.

Ken H.


On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Mike Miller wrote:
>
>...
> Note: When parked, if you put any amount of power through the cord, it is best if you do not leave the cord coiled up in the compartment.  You should pull it all the way out and run it straight along the side of the coach.   This will reduce the heat build-up in the cord from the A/C voltage and coiled wires.  You do not have a choice when driving.
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132268 is a reply to message #132188] Mon, 27 June 2011 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jun 27, 2011, at 4:00 AM, Mike Miller wrote:
>
> Note: When parked, if you put any amount of power through the cord, it is best if you do not leave the cord coiled up in the compartment. You should pull it all the way out and run it straight along the side of the coach. This will reduce the heat build-up in the cord from the A/C voltage and coiled wires. You do not have a choice when driving.
> --
I have never done this in the 30 years that I have owned my GMC and I put a lot of hours on the Onan during that time. The cord is about 6 gauge wire and if it is heating up to any appreciable amount that would mean that you have way too much draw on it. I run the air conditioner, water heater, microwave oven, converter and have never had a problem or found my coiled wire heating up.

Have you actually measured the heat? If so, what temperature have your found?

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132270 is a reply to message #132268] Mon, 27 June 2011 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>
> Have you actually measured the heat? If so, what temperature have your
> found?
>
>
who is "YOU"
did you see the name at the end of the article "Mr. Onan

gene



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On Jun 27, 2011, at 12:58 AM, Rob Mueller wrote:

> Pete,
>
> If the plug on your power cord has three flat connectors and one round one
> it is a 50 amp if it has two flat connectors and one round one it is 30 amp.
>
> Double Trouble has a 50 amp power cord and I agree whole heartedly that it
> is a bugger to wrap up.
>

Maybe we need a seminar at a rally about "how to wind up your power cord"! :) :)

I agree that the 50 amp (actually 40 amp) power cord will get a bit stiff in the winter but I have never really had any problem winding it up into the compartment.
I just coil it and force a coil against the side or back of the compartment as I wind and it seems to go in fairly easily. I will never exchange it for a 30 amp cord.

Emery Stora
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Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132272 is a reply to message #132270] Mon, 27 June 2011 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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On Jun 27, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Mr.erf ERFisher wrote:

>>
>> Have you actually measured the heat? If so, what temperature have your
>> found?
>>
>>
> who is "YOU"
> did you see the name at the end of the article "Mr. Onan
>
> gene
>


I was replying to Mike Miller's email where he said: "Note: When parked, if you put any amount of power through the cord, it is best if you do not leave the cord coiled up in the compartment. You should pull it all the way out and run it straight along the side of the coach. This will reduce the heat build-up in the cord from the A/C voltage and coiled wires. You do not have a choice when driving." so the "YOU" should obviously be Mike Miller.

I don't know what you (Gene Fisher) are referring to. What article?
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Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132275 is a reply to message #132191] Mon, 27 June 2011 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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this is what stated the whole thread ;>)
and this

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3506

gene


also this is a good idea to reduce the - coiled cord- problem
>
> http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/chassis.html#SHORE
>
> gene
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> cut the sucker off short --- then use power cords that fit the load----
>> look here -- even a video to show you how the door holder works ($5) answer
>>
>> http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/body.html#DOOR
>>
>> still plugs into the Onan connector, and is easy to plug in adaptors. I
>> use a small extension cord for the lights and charger, ( since I never use
>> the roof AC ;>). But I carry a larger extension cord in the coach, if I
>> need 35 or 50 amps.
>>
>> works great on my 2 GMCs
>> gene
>>
>>
>> I'm thinking about just leaving it coiled up as neatly as possible in the
>> compartment, and using an auxillery 30 amp cord and adaptor connected to it.
>> I only have 1 roof air, so I'm guessing 30 amp service would be enough.
>>
>>
>> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
>> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
>> -------
>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/
>> Alternator Protection Cable
>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
> -------
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/
> Alternator Protection Cable
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
>



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Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132284 is a reply to message #132275] Mon, 27 June 2011 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Gann is currently offline  John Gann   United States
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On 6/27/2011 12:50 PM, Mr.erf ERFisher wrote:
> this is what stated the whole thread ;>)
> and this
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3506
>
> gene
>
>
> also this is a good idea to reduce the - coiled cord- problem
>> http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/chassis.html#SHORE
>>
>> gene
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Mr.erf ERFisher<mr.erfisher@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> cut the sucker off short --- then use power cords that fit the load----
>>> look here -- even a video to show you how the door holder works ($5) answer
>>>
>>> http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/body.html#DOOR
>>>
>>> still plugs into the Onan connector, and is easy to plug in adaptors. I
>>> use a small extension cord for the lights and charger, ( since I never use
>>> the roof AC ;>). But I carry a larger extension cord in the coach, if I
>>> need 35 or 50 amps.
>>>
>>> works great on my 2 GMCs
>>> gene
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm thinking about just leaving it coiled up as neatly as possible in the
>>> compartment, and using an auxillery 30 amp cord and adaptor connected to it.
>>> I only have 1 roof air, so I'm guessing 30 amp service would be enough.
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
>>> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
>>> -------
>>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/
>>> Alternator Protection Cable
>>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
>> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
>> -------
>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/
>> Alternator Protection Cable
>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
>>
>
>
The company I work for says we must lay out the entire cord when
powering off our generators to reduce fire danger. I agree with using
the correct length cord for the job, I would LOVE not laying out my big
cord to power something I can pull my truck up to. I will certainly have
more than one length ready in my GMC.
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Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132285 is a reply to message #132284] Mon, 27 June 2011 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gene,
Do you have a part # or length and strength for
this short cylinder?

http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/body.html#DOOR

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Re: [GMCnet] Power cord rewinding & storage technique [message #132287 is a reply to message #132275] Mon, 27 June 2011 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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On Jun 27, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Mr.erf ERFisher wrote:

> this is what stated the whole thread ;>)
> and this
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3506
>
> gene
>
>
> also this is a good idea to reduce the - coiled cord- problem
>>
>> http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/chassis.html#SHORE
>>
>> gene
>>

OK, Gene.

I have read the article by Duane but I have to say that I disagree with it. First of all there is never 80 amps of current drawn through the cord.

Secondly, I have never hear of a fire in that compartment in a GMC motorhome being caused by an overheated OEM 40 amp (50 amp) power cord. He says it has been reported at an FMCA rally that a coiled cord can overheat and start a fire. We would need a lot more information on that. Was it a GMC? What was the power cord? What was the rating of the connections, etc. etc.

If it was an FMCA rally I doubt that they were talking about a GMC motorhome.

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