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can someone reply with the remflex # for the exhaust manifold gaskets. thanks

Rick Seebeck Gladwin Michigan 1973 Canyon Lands
Re: remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #129815 is a reply to message #129813] Sun, 12 June 2011 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rickmo wrote on Sun, 12 June 2011 11:15

can someone reply with the remflex # for the exhaust manifold gaskets. thanks


Rick,

Might be fastest to order from Jim K at

http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/670

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Re: [GMCnet] remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #129818 is a reply to message #129813] Sun, 12 June 2011 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Call them at 360-492-3100 Mineral, WA
Very helpful, if I recall they sent two to make sure that I had the right one.

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Re: [GMCnet] remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #129820 is a reply to message #129818] Sun, 12 June 2011 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Id call Jim K. He over nights stuff all the time.
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Re: [GMCnet] remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #129860 is a reply to message #129820] Sun, 12 June 2011 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd recommend Dave Lenzie's copper gaskets.

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Re: [GMCnet] remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #129874 is a reply to message #129860] Sun, 12 June 2011 17:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On a Sunday .
Part #RF11-003 /RF-11-001
I would suggest the 001.
As usual we show both on our web site and in stock.
Apparently most of the netters are not aware as the other s that are
on their own seem to find us and order.





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Re: [GMCnet] remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #130004 is a reply to message #129860] Mon, 13 June 2011 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike Beaton wrote on Sun, 12 June 2011 16:36

I'd recommend Dave Lenzie's copper gaskets.
Mike in NS


Yes, I would too - until I had a failure - please read on.

I installed Dave's gaskets, and they cured my gasket problem for several years. Then last year I had a leak on the passenger side, and the manifold developed a crack from top to bottom. I got another manifold from some fellow in Kentucky, and I bought another gasket from Dave at Duquoin last fall. When I removed the manifold I found the bottom of the center section was almost completely gone (I will post pictures when I get a chance).

After removing two broken grade 8 bolts (that's a whole 'nuther story) and cleaning the head surface I used a straight edge to check it. The bottom edge of the opening was even, but the upper edge, above the double opening, was a bit high. This caused the gasket to have a slight gap at the bottom, and put a strain on the manifold, causing it to crack. I really did not want to pull the head to have it trued, so I chose to use the Remflex gasket on this side, along with a replacement manifold that had been milled flat. I will let you know how this works in a few thousand miles.

I still would recommend Dave Lenzi's all-copper gaskets because of better heat transmission - but the heads have to be in good shape. BTW, I did not change the gasket on the driver side, as it is still good. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.


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Re: [GMCnet] remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #130006 is a reply to message #130004] Mon, 13 June 2011 08:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When you all get tired of
This hassle. Headers fix the problem

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On Jun 13, 2011, at 6:00 AM, Erv Troyer <reo43@aol.com> wrote:

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> Mike Beaton wrote on Sun, 12 June 2011 16:36
>> I'd recommend Dave Lenzie's copper gaskets.
>> Mike in NS
>
> Yes, I would too - until I had a failure - please read on.
>
> I installed Dave's gaskets, and they cured my gasket problem for several years. Then last year I had a leak on the passenger side, and the manifold developed a crack from top to bottom. I got another manifold from some fellow in Kentucky, and I bought another gasket from Dave at Duquoin last fall. When I removed the manifold I found the bottom of the center section was almost completely gone (I will post pictures when I get a chance).
>
> After removing two broken grade 8 bolts (that's a whole 'nuther story) and cleaning the head surface I used a straight edge to check it. The bottom edge of the opening was even, but the upper edge, above the double opening, was a bit high. This caused the gasket to have a slight gap at the bottom, and put a strain on the manifold, causing it to crack. I really did not want to pull the head to have it trued, so I chose to use the Remflex gasket on this side, along with a replacement manifold that had been milled flat. I will let you know how this works in a few thousand miles.
>
> I still would recommend Dave Lenzi's all-copper gaskets because of better heat transmission - but the heads have to be in good shape. BTW, I did not change the gasket on the driver side, as it is still good. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Re: [GMCnet] remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #130029 is a reply to message #130004] Mon, 13 June 2011 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Erv,
The primary reason why the bottom was leaking is in the dsign of the
bolting pattern.
Never tighten the top center bolt as it will tilt the unit and cause
leakage at the bottom
This holds true for headers .

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Erv Troyer <reo43@aol.com> wrote:
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> Mike Beaton wrote on Sun, 12 June 2011 16:36
>> I'd recommend Dave Lenzie's copper gaskets.
>> Mike in NS
>
> Yes, I would too - until I had a failure - please read on.
>
> I installed Dave's gaskets, and they cured my gasket problem for several years. Then last year I had a leak on the passenger side, and the manifold developed a crack from top to bottom. I got another manifold from some fellow in Kentucky, and I bought another gasket from Dave at Duquoin last fall. When I removed the manifold I found the bottom of the center section was almost completely gone (I will post pictures when I get a chance).
>
> After removing two broken grade 8 bolts (that's a whole 'nuther story) and cleaning the head surface I used a straight edge to check it. The bottom edge of the opening was even, but the upper edge, above the double opening, was a bit high. This caused the gasket to have a slight gap at the bottom, and put a strain on the manifold, causing it to crack. I really did not want to pull the head to have it trued, so I chose to use the Remflex gasket on this side, along with a replacement manifold that had been milled flat. I will let you know how this works in a few thousand miles.
>
> I still would recommend Dave Lenzi's all-copper gaskets because of better heat transmission - but the heads have to be in good shape. BTW, I did not change the gasket on the driver side, as it is still good. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Re: [GMCnet] remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #130037 is a reply to message #130029] Mon, 13 June 2011 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yea, I had trouble believing what Jim said about the center bolt. Finally left it out. He is right. You do what you want, I leave the center bolt completely out, on our headers.
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Re: [GMCnet] remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #130047 is a reply to message #130037] Mon, 13 June 2011 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My 78 Eleganza II Has A 403 With Thorley Headers
Which Of The RemFlex Exaust Gaskets Should I Use
The
# RF-11-001
Or
# RF-11-003 ?

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Re: [GMCnet] remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #130082 is a reply to message #130047] Mon, 13 June 2011 18:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The RF11-001 works for both the 403 and the 455 with the headers.

J. R. Wright

On Jun 13, 2011, at 2:24 PM, J A Holland wrote:

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> My 78 Eleganza II Has A 403 With Thorley Headers
> Which Of The RemFlex Exhaust Gasket Should I Use The # RF-11-001
> Or # RF-11-003 ?
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Re: [GMCnet] remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #130097 is a reply to message #130082] Mon, 13 June 2011 20:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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powerjon wrote on Mon, 13 June 2011 18:36

The RF11-001 works for both the 403 and the 455 with the headers.

J. R. Wright

On Jun 13, 2011, at 2:24 PM, J A Holland wrote:

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>
> My 78 Eleganza II Has A 403 With Thorley Headers
> Which Of The RemFlex Exhaust Gasket Should I Use The # RF-11-001
> Or # RF-11-003 ?
>
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J R;

Thanks For The Remflex Gasket Part #

Just pun in a Edelbrock Intake manifold with a plugged crossover & #404 MrGasket Set ~
Recored The Radiator, New Alternator, Fan Clutch, New Belts and Hoses thruout ~
When I cranked it up early this morning I found an exaust leak on the right side ~
Late this afternoon we Checked, Retorqued, Tightened everything, Let Run for 2 hours
We pulled a vacuum on the Dash A/C System eaelier and it held fast

So we recharged it with R 134-A freon ~

Soaked down right Side Header Bolts With P B Blaster real good this afternoon
and planning Tomorrow's installation of the Remflex RF-11-001 Exaust Gasket ~

Thanks Agan For The Number ~

~ Joe ~


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Re: [GMCnet] remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #130140 is a reply to message #130097] Tue, 14 June 2011 00:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We now also carry the New bigger Doug's headers that is a spiting
copy of the Thorly, but is for a 455 as it has bigger flange opening.
The late Joe Mondello helped me to be the Warehouse Dist. for it, now
you can acquire them from Jim Bounds,Jeff Sirum,Tom Hampton,Ken
Frye,Migil Mendez and Applied.
It will also come with an O2 bung on both sides standard.
Joe Mondello also had us set up as WD for the Pertronic ignition parts
which i will make available to the other GMC shops.
Our prices are better than Summit on the Pertronics.






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>
> powerjon wrote on Mon, 13 June 2011 18:36
>> The RF11-001 works for both the 403 and the 455 with the headers.
>>
>> J. R. Wright
>>
>> On Jun 13, 2011, at 2:24 PM, J A Holland wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > My 78 Eleganza II Has A 403 With Thorley Headers
>> > Which Of The RemFlex Exhaust Gasket Should I Use The # RF-11-001
>> > Or # RF-11-003 ?
>> >
>> > ~ Joe ~
>> >
>> >
>> > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1697369155175.2087795.1266255830&l=259797f926
>> > --
>> > /_][__][]  [__|]  -  1978 GMC 403   ""
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>
> Just pun in a Edelbrock Intake manifold with a plugged crossover & #404 MrGasket Set ~
> Recored The Radiator, New Alternator, Fan Clutch, New Belts and Hoses thruout ~
> When I cranked it up early this morning I found an exaust leak on the right side ~
> Late this  afternoon we Checked, Retorqued, Tightened everything, Let Run for 2 hours
> We pulled a vacuum on the Dash A/C System eaelier and it was good so we recharged it with R 134-A freon ~
>
> Soaked down right Side Header Bolts With P B Blaster and installation of the Remflex RF-11-001 Exaust Gaskets 1`
>
> Thanks Agan For The Number ~
>
> ~ Joe ~
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Re: [GMCnet] remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #130155 is a reply to message #130029] Tue, 14 June 2011 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jimk wrote on Mon, 13 June 2011 11:29

Erv,
The primary reason why the bottom was leaking is in the design of the bolting pattern.
Never tighten the top center bolt as it will tilt the unit and cause leakage at the bottom
This holds true for headers .
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Jim, I didn't tighten the top bolt when I installed Dave Lenzi's gasket. I re-torqued the other bolts several times per Dave's instructions, and the last time they wouldn't move at 25 ft/lbs. I still think it was the high spot on the head which caused the gasket failure.

When I removed the manifold the top bolt twisted off, and I didn't even bother to remove it. I also twisted off the rear two bolts, which were Bowmalloy (stronger than Grade 8 according to them) which brings up a rule which has been repeated several times on this Net - don't use grade 5 or 8 bolts for this as they are a PITA if they break off. Amen to that! BTW, when I installed these I had used anti-sieze, which was baked into the threads.

I tried several methods to remove these bolts, and nothing worked. I finally found out how to get them out by reading several car repair forums. Several guys mentioned using a cutting torch, as the torch won't cut cast iron. I ground them flush, and blew them out with the torch. However, I must have gotten the cast iron too hot and hardened it, as I had a heck of a time rethreading the block - but finally got 'er done. Broke off one tap, which I then removed with the cutting torch. I got ungraded bolts at the hardware, and installed then with anti-sieze. I torqued them to 15 ft/lbs per the Remflex instructions. We will see how these work out.

And to Gene - you wrote:

"When you all get tired of this hassle. Headers fix the problem"

Yep, I have to agree now, and that will be my next step if this doesn't hold. But I believe you are also the same guy that says "If you have good manifolds, use them. When they fail, put on headers". I have just been too stubborn to take that step, I guess.


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Re: [GMCnet] remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #130226 is a reply to message #130155] Tue, 14 June 2011 17:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anti- seize and Kroil are you friends when working on those bolts. We have some industrial anti-seize rated at 2500 degrees at the airport. It works good on oxygen sensors and exhaust manifold bolts. I'll have to find out the brand on it.

I still recommend a 3/8" battery powered impact to remove those bolts without breaking them. Soak them with Kroil and wait a day. Then hit them with the impact wrench. If they do not come off easily, soak them again, and wait another day. Repeat as necessary for as many day as it takes. Usually this is somewhere between 3 and 5 days. It may take a while but you will not have any broken bolts.


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Re: [GMCnet] remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #130404 is a reply to message #130226] Wed, 15 June 2011 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Try:

http://www.powerflowsystems.com/items.php?fi_id=13


2500 degree max.

Tom Eckert N2VWN
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Oakland, TN




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>
> Anti- seize and Kroil are you friends when working on those bolts. We
> have some industrial anti-seize rated at 2500 degrees at the airport. It
> works good on oxygen sensors and exhaust manifold bolts. I'll have to find
> out the brand on it.
>
> I still recommend a 3/8" battery powered impact to remove those bolts
> without breaking them. Soak them with Kroil and wait a day. Then hit them
> with the impact wrench. If they do not come off easily, soak them again,
> and wait another day. Repeat as necessary for as many day as it takes.
> Usually this is somewhere between 3 and 5 days. It may take a while but
> you will not have any broken bolts.
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Re: [GMCnet] remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #130440 is a reply to message #130404] Thu, 16 June 2011 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tom, I sent in a reply to this message via the email system yesterday but it doesn't seem to have gotten through. At any rate when I tried to order this stuff it asked for my aircraft type and it won't let you order it unless you provide it.

Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] remflex part number exhaust man gasket [message #130445 is a reply to message #130440] Thu, 16 June 2011 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 16 June 2011 20:11

...when I tried to order this stuff it asked for my aircraft type and it won't let you order it unless you provide it.


Shocked What business is that of theirs - it's goop dagnabit!

Rob, I'd be mighty tempted to email them and tell them you're using it on your Citation, your Mustang and your Spitfire so you can't give 'em any specifics. Laughing

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G'day,

I was on the phone with Dave Lenzi about another subject and I asked him if his copper exhaust gaskets were for headers the response was a resounding NO!


Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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