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Sun, 05 June 2011 20:54  |
thorndike
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Well, I am several hours into replacing the pads.
I am not done yet.
First, I was able to unscrew the brackets on the side quite easily. Silly me, I thought that was a portent of things to come. I was wrong.
Once I unbolted those I thought I would try and jack up the coach without having to unbolt the bolts in the corners. Well, it didn't work so I ended up having to work on the corner bolts. Thank goodness my son came home from college as I was working on it, so he was able to help remove the rear bolts. After much struggling, we were able to loosen the bolts. This DID enable me to start getting the pads replaced in the rear.
At this point I have all the pads installed from the rear wheels back. The directions I have read say that there pads to replace by the wheel assemblies themselves. Try as I might, I have been unable to locate WHERE those pads go.
Is there anyone who can point me to the location where behind the wheels that the pads go?
Bob
Robert Peesel
1976 Royale 26'
Side Dry Bath
Conifer, Colorado
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| Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project [message #128820 is a reply to message #128817] |
Sun, 05 June 2011 21:07  |
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USAussie
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Bob,
I emailed you copies of the instructions from Bert & Fay Curtis, didn't you
get them?
Also Bdub has posted them here:
http://www.bdub.net/curtis-unlimited/Body_Pads_Instructions.pdf
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Peesel
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:55 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project
Well, I am several hours into replacing the pads.
I am not done yet.
First, I was able to unscrew the brackets on the side quite easily. Silly
me, I thought that was a portent of things to come. I was wrong.
Once I unbolted those I thought I would try and jack up the coach without
having to unbolt the bolts in the corners. Well, it didn't work so I ended
up having to work on the corner bolts. Thank goodness my son came home from
college as I was working on it, so he was able to help remove the rear
bolts. After much struggling, we were able to loosen the bolts. This DID
enable me to start getting the pads replaced in the rear.
At this point I have all the pads installed from the rear wheels back. The
directions I have read say that there pads to replace by the wheel
assemblies themselves. Try as I might, I have been unable to locate WHERE
those pads go.
Is there anyone who can point me to the location where behind the wheels
that the pads go?
Bob
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Robert Peesel
1976 Royale 26'
Side Dry Bath
Sterling, Va
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| Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project [message #128821 is a reply to message #128820] |
Sun, 05 June 2011 21:16 |
thorndike
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Rob,
Yeah I did, thanks. The problem I am having is LOCATING the pads at the rear wheels. Maybe they are completely gone and that is why I can't find out where they go.
I will look again tomorrow morning.
Bob
Robert Peesel
1976 Royale 26'
Side Dry Bath
Conifer, Colorado
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| Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project [message #128823 is a reply to message #128821] |
Sun, 05 June 2011 21:28 |
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USAussie
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Bob,
Good!
If you look at page 3 you will see the isolators "suspended" above the steel
frame. I agree that this illustration leaves a bit to be desired.
Here's a link to a photo Gord just posted to the photo site.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=39507
It's been a couple of years since I changed mine down at the COOP but IIRC
an isolator goes between the steel frame and every aluminum cross member on
both sides.
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Peesel
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:17 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project
Rob,
Yeah I did, thanks. The problem I am having is LOCATING the pads at the
rear wheels. Maybe they are completely gone and that is why I can't find
out where they go.
I will look again tomorrow morning.
Bob
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1976 Royale 26'
Side Dry Bath
Sterling, Va
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'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project [message #128827 is a reply to message #128821] |
Sun, 05 June 2011 22:03 |
Ken Burton
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The double isolator goes exactly dead center between the bogie wheels on both sides. Then there is a body cross member right at the rear of the rear wheels and the front of the front wheels. Just look for the cross members and that is where the isolators go.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Isolation pad project [message #128842 is a reply to message #128841] |
Mon, 06 June 2011 03:38 |
Ken Burton
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| RF_Burns wrote on Mon, 06 June 2011 00:23 |
Bob,
I can't see where that double high isolater goes either. When I look between my bogies I see the frame and the plywood floor but no aluminum cross member.
However when my coach was up on the lift with the fuel tanks down, I remembed seeing an isolater haging there. It would be against the subframe between the bogies. I have no idea how to get to it.
I think this job calls for a lift so one can get to both sides of the fram from the bottom.
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I had no problem getting in there to install those between the wheels. I did mine sitting on the concrete floor in my hanger.
NOW, If you have a 4 bag system then that is a different issue. On the one 4 bagger I helped on we could not get into that area. The owner told me he was going to remove the 4 bag system to reenforce the bent brackets and that he would install those when he had the 4 bag system off of the coach.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project [message #128843 is a reply to message #128841] |
Mon, 06 June 2011 04:01 |
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USAussie
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Bob & Bruce,
On page two of the instructions it says:
"If you purchased a set for '77 or '78 year model coaches, you will have 20
pads that are the same thickness and size. In this case, just double up two
of them. These go on the frame between the rear wheels set in off in the
main frame."
"Contents of kit"
"2 pads for between the wheels"
On page three there are two isolators stacked up floating above the
passenger's side of the frame where the bogies attach to the frame.
I am not trying to embarrass you with this info; what it demonstrates is
what I found CONSTANTLY working as a field rep, these instructions were
written by someone who has done the job and knows how to do it. Frankly
they're not clear to me and I did the job! The photo of the frame showing
the isolator positions leaves a bit to be desired.
I am sure you both will figger it out and when you do take a moment and
re-write them so that someone who DOESN'T know how to install the isolators
can easily understand them!
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Hislop
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 3:24 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project
Bob,
I can't see where that double high isolater goes either. When I look between
my bogies I see the frame and the plywood floor but no aluminum cross
member.
However when my coach was up on the lift with the fuel tanks down, I
remembed seeing an isolater haging there. It would be against the subframe
between the bogies. I have no idea how to get to it.
I think this job calls for a lift so one can get to both sides of the fram
from the bottom.
--
Bruce Hislop,
S. Ontario Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI and ESC.
Hubler front end installed and WOW! !:)
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project [message #128850 is a reply to message #128843] |
Mon, 06 June 2011 07:34 |
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And if either of you takes time to rewrite the instructions for the rest of
the community, do it from the standpoint of a blooming idiot doing the work.
When I edited technical material I always asked questions such as "what do
you mean when you say". It sure helps for clarity later on. Too often a
writer assumes everyone else knows what he/she knows, which is a big
mistake.
Generally, however, you don't have to explain on which side to pound the
nail. Everyone knows its the outside.
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
Rob Mueller wrote:
> Bob & Bruce,
>
> On page two of the instructions it says:
>
> "If you purchased a set for '77 or '78 year model coaches, you will have 20
> pads that are the same thickness and size. In this case, just double up two
> of them. These go on the frame between the rear wheels set in off in the
> main frame."
>
> "Contents of kit"
>
> "2 pads for between the wheels"
>
> On page three there are two isolators stacked up floating above the
> passenger's side of the frame where the bogies attach to the frame.
>
> I am not trying to embarrass you with this info; what it demonstrates is
> what I found CONSTANTLY working as a field rep, these instructions were
> written by someone who has done the job and knows how to do it. Frankly
> they're not clear to me and I did the job! The photo of the frame showing
> the isolator positions leaves a bit to be desired.
>
> I am sure you both will figger it out and when you do take a moment and
> re-write them so that someone who DOESN'T know how to install the isolators
> can easily understand them!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Hislop
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 3:24 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project
>
>
>
> Bob,
>
> I can't see where that double high isolater goes either. When I look between
> my bogies I see the frame and the plywood floor but no aluminum cross
> member.
>
> However when my coach was up on the lift with the fuel tanks down, I
> remembed seeing an isolater haging there. It would be against the subframe
> between the bogies. I have no idea how to get to it.
>
> I think this job calls for a lift so one can get to both sides of the fram
> from the bottom.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project [message #128852 is a reply to message #128817] |
Mon, 06 June 2011 07:42 |
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Bob,
You bring up an interesting point. As each coach ages it develops it's on
characteristics. Some say they don't loosen the bolts to on the ends to
replace the pads and while others have to.
When John Shotwell and I worked on changing the pads on my Royale we had to
loosen the right rear bolt to do the job. Then, moving to the other side, no
adjustment was needed. How about that for odd.
Ken Burton said he only had to lift the body off the frame. Hah. I recall us
raising the whole body and the frame following right along at one point. The
wheels had to be three or four inches off the ground. After using a pry bar
we were able to make room.
We also didn't double up the isolators that go between the rear wheels. The
pads JimB made for me were quite thick and it didn't seem necessary.
When all was said and done, my wife and I both noticed fewer noises and a
better feel to the ride.
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
Robert Peesel wrote:
> Once I unbolted those I thought I would try and jack up the coach without
> having to unbolt the bolts in the corners. Well, it didn't work so I ended up
> having to work on the corner bolts. Thank goodness my son came home from
> college as I was working on it, so he was able to help remove the rear bolts.
> After much struggling, we were able to loosen the bolts. This DID enable me
> to start getting the pads replaced in the rear.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project [message #128870 is a reply to message #128850] |
Mon, 06 June 2011 08:29 |
gmcrv1
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Byron,
You are so right. I worked in the Technical Services Division at the now
defunct Western Electric Co. We had to write manuals for our own AT&T and
Telephone Company employees and also manuals for the DOD and other
government entities. Our instructions from the government when writing
their manuals was to make it so a second grader through a graduate school
individual could understand it.
I still lose sleep worrying about those graduate types - I hope they
understood those manuals! lol
We also used to read and interpret manuals and put them on tape (early
storage media) for the blind as a public service. That was one of my
favorite challenges. And most rewarding.
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Byron Songer
<bsonger@songerconsulting.net>wrote:
> And if either of you takes time to rewrite the instructions for the rest of
> the community, do it from the standpoint of a blooming idiot doing the
> work.
>
> When I edited technical material I always asked questions such as "what do
> you mean when you sayĆ ". It sure helps for clarity later on. Too often a
> writer assumes everyone else knows what he/she knows, which is a big
> mistake.
>
> Generally, however, you don't have to explain on which side to pound the
> nail. Everyone knows its the outside.
>
> Byron Songer
> 1978 Royale by Coachmen
> Louisville, KY
> Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
>
>
>
> Rob Mueller wrote:
>
> > Bob & Bruce,
> >
> > On page two of the instructions it says:
> >
> > "If you purchased a set for '77 or '78 year model coaches, you will have
> 20
> > pads that are the same thickness and size. In this case, just double up
> two
> > of them. These go on the frame between the rear wheels set in off in the
> > main frame."
> >
> > "Contents of kit"
> >
> > "2 pads for between the wheels"
> >
> > On page three there are two isolators stacked up floating above the
> > passenger's side of the frame where the bogies attach to the frame.
> >
> > I am not trying to embarrass you with this info; what it demonstrates is
> > what I found CONSTANTLY working as a field rep, these instructions were
> > written by someone who has done the job and knows how to do it. Frankly
> > they're not clear to me and I did the job! The photo of the frame showing
> > the isolator positions leaves a bit to be desired.
> >
> > I am sure you both will figger it out and when you do take a moment and
> > re-write them so that someone who DOESN'T know how to install the
> isolators
> > can easily understand them!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> > USAussie - Downunder
> > AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> > USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> > [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Hislop
> > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 3:24 PM
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project
> >
> >
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > I can't see where that double high isolater goes either. When I look
> between
> > my bogies I see the frame and the plywood floor but no aluminum cross
> > member.
> >
> > However when my coach was up on the lift with the fuel tanks down, I
> > remembed seeing an isolater haging there. It would be against the
> subframe
> > between the bogies. I have no idea how to get to it.
> >
> > I think this job calls for a lift so one can get to both sides of the
> fram
> > from the bottom.
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project [message #128877 is a reply to message #128843] |
Mon, 06 June 2011 08:42 |
Jim Bounds
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The bottom line of replacing your body pads is for 2 reasons-- first because the
original ones have either fallen out or compressed to the point there is a
problem and the second reason is the problem that is created when you do not
have @ 1/2 distance between the body and the frame. The brake, air and fuel
lines need that gap-- they cross back and forth through that gap and it neeeds
to be there.
One problem I have noted even in a new body pad kit is even with them in there,
there is not a 1/2 gap between the body and frame. The pad must not compress to
the point that the gap is comprimized so we've been studying this problem and
have come up with a few things.
First, "decoupling" occures when you isolate the 2 surfaces, the softness of the
isolator is not as important as it being there, causing less surface contact
area and they maintain the 1/2 of clearance needed. To that end, we have been
trying different derometer pads/ spacers and have found a material that while
still acts a a cushion does not compress to the point under pressure that the
1/2 tolerance will stay. Actually, we have been abel to effectively keep the
specifications of the gap and reduce the cost of the pad kit in half. We are
starting to ship our pad kit for $50 + a tube of the Euroseal Gel that we use to
glue the pads in place if you do not have something yourself. This is not some
lab made super rubber but a very simple approach to an important problem.
Almost a "paperclip" when you see it but they work great and I can;t see that
they will ever fail.
The more work we do with the fuel delivery system the more we find effects the
integrity of it and having proper clearance between the body aand frame is the
newest cause/effect issue we found when renewing the fuel delivery system. I
hope wherever you get your pad kit that you do it, go look up under your coach
and see if the body is sitting on the frame rails, if they are-- well get out
there and do something!
Jim Bounds
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From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 5:01:18 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project
Bob & Bruce,
On page two of the instructions it says:
"If you purchased a set for '77 or '78 year model coaches, you will have 20
pads that are the same thickness and size. In this case, just double up two
of them. These go on the frame between the rear wheels set in off in the
main frame."
"Contents of kit"
"2 pads for between the wheels"
On page three there are two isolators stacked up floating above the
passenger's side of the frame where the bogies attach to the frame.
I am not trying to embarrass you with this info; what it demonstrates is
what I found CONSTANTLY working as a field rep, these instructions were
written by someone who has done the job and knows how to do it. Frankly
they're not clear to me and I did the job! The photo of the frame showing
the isolator positions leaves a bit to be desired.
I am sure you both will figger it out and when you do take a moment and
re-write them so that someone who DOESN'T know how to install the isolators
can easily understand them!
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Hislop
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 3:24 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project
Bob,
I can't see where that double high isolater goes either. When I look between
my bogies I see the frame and the plywood floor but no aluminum cross
member.
However when my coach was up on the lift with the fuel tanks down, I
remembed seeing an isolater haging there. It would be against the subframe
between the bogies. I have no idea how to get to it.
I think this job calls for a lift so one can get to both sides of the fram
from the bottom.
--
Bruce Hislop,
S. Ontario Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI and ESC.
Hubler front end installed and WOW! !:)
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
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| Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project [message #128881 is a reply to message #128870] |
Mon, 06 June 2011 09:06 |
Ray Erspamer
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After reading all of these posts I CAN'T WAIT to start my pad replacement
project..........maybe I can schedule a ROOT CANAL with my dentist instead,
sounds like that would be more pleasant ! LOL
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
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From: Tom Eckert <gmcrv1@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 8:29:29 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project
Byron,
You are so right. I worked in the Technical Services Division at the now
defunct Western Electric Co. We had to write manuals for our own AT&T and
Telephone Company employees and also manuals for the DOD and other
government entities. Our instructions from the government when writing
their manuals was to make it so a second grader through a graduate school
individual could understand it.
I still lose sleep worrying about those graduate types - I hope they
understood those manuals! lol
We also used to read and interpret manuals and put them on tape (early
storage media) for the blind as a public service. That was one of my
favorite challenges. And most rewarding.
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Byron Songer
<bsonger@songerconsulting.net>wrote:
> And if either of you takes time to rewrite the instructions for the rest of
> the community, do it from the standpoint of a blooming idiot doing the
> work.
>
> When I edited technical material I always asked questions such as "what do
> you mean when you sayĆ ". It sure helps for clarity later on. Too often a
> writer assumes everyone else knows what he/she knows, which is a big
> mistake.
>
> Generally, however, you don't have to explain on which side to pound the
> nail. Everyone knows its the outside.
>
> Byron Songer
> 1978 Royale by Coachmen
> Louisville, KY
> Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
>
>
>
> Rob Mueller wrote:
>
> > Bob & Bruce,
> >
> > On page two of the instructions it says:
> >
> > "If you purchased a set for '77 or '78 year model coaches, you will have
> 20
> > pads that are the same thickness and size. In this case, just double up
> two
> > of them. These go on the frame between the rear wheels set in off in the
> > main frame."
> >
> > "Contents of kit"
> >
> > "2 pads for between the wheels"
> >
> > On page three there are two isolators stacked up floating above the
> > passenger's side of the frame where the bogies attach to the frame.
> >
> > I am not trying to embarrass you with this info; what it demonstrates is
> > what I found CONSTANTLY working as a field rep, these instructions were
> > written by someone who has done the job and knows how to do it. Frankly
> > they're not clear to me and I did the job! The photo of the frame showing
> > the isolator positions leaves a bit to be desired.
> >
> > I am sure you both will figger it out and when you do take a moment and
> > re-write them so that someone who DOESN'T know how to install the
> isolators
> > can easily understand them!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> > USAussie - Downunder
> > AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> > USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> > [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Hislop
> > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 3:24 PM
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project
> >
> >
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > I can't see where that double high isolater goes either. When I look
> between
> > my bogies I see the frame and the plywood floor but no aluminum cross
> > member.
> >
> > However when my coach was up on the lift with the fuel tanks down, I
> > remembed seeing an isolater haging there. It would be against the
> subframe
> > between the bogies. I have no idea how to get to it.
> >
> > I think this job calls for a lift so one can get to both sides of the
> fram
> > from the bottom.
>
>
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| Re: Isolation pad project [message #128913 is a reply to message #128841] |
Mon, 06 June 2011 12:16 |
thorndike
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Bruce,
I have probably been doing this the hard way. On the ground laying in the street.
I am going to be doing my brakes in a few days, so I am hoping that when I have both wheels off I will have better access to the isolator.
I will let you know.
Bob
| RF_Burns wrote on Mon, 06 June 2011 01:23 |
Bob,
I can't see where that double high isolater goes either. When I look between my bogies I see the frame and the plywood floor but no aluminum cross member.
However when my coach was up on the lift with the fuel tanks down, I remembed seeing an isolater haging there. It would be against the subframe between the bogies. I have no idea how to get to it.
I think this job calls for a lift so one can get to both sides of the fram from the bottom.
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Robert Peesel
1976 Royale 26'
Side Dry Bath
Conifer, Colorado
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| Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project [message #128977 is a reply to message #128883] |
Mon, 06 June 2011 20:36 |
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Do you mean you just can't turn a wrench the right way to get a bolt off?
Wow. What a revelation.
BTW, is counter-clockwise backwards in Australia? Enquiring minds want to
know.
Yep. Just because we use English doesn't mean we all comprehend the words.
Byron
Rob Mueller wrote:
> OK,
>
> How about this one! I was on an assignment for Hamilton Standard in Dar Es
> Salam, Tanzania. I was to teach the Tanzanian Peoples Defense Force how to
> assemble and rig a 63E60 propeller that went on their DeHavilland Buffalo
> aircraft.
>
> The box that the prop came in had a top that was bolted on, I handed an
> adjustable wrench to one of the mechanics to remove the bolts so we could
> take off the top. He went over to the box, put the wrench on one of the
> bolts and turned it one way then the other; HE DID NOT KNOW WHICH WAY TO
> TURN THE WRENCH! I watched this and realized I had my work cut out for me!
>
> I used that opportunity to re-write the section of the manual that dealt
> with assembly and installation of the prop. When I sent it in I got a hard
> time from the tech writer noting that the procedure was too detailed and
> simplistic. It took some arm twisting by the Service Department to get him
> to revise the manual as I had written it!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project [message #129010 is a reply to message #128977] |
Mon, 06 June 2011 22:17 |
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USAussie
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Byron,
It was a challenge, fortunately there was one guy in the group that had some
mechanical ability and I focused on him and when I was done I told him it
was his responsibility to make sure when they R&R'd props that it was done
properly.
There is no such term in Strine as counter-clockwise, the term is
anti-clockwise! ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Byron Songer
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:36 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project
Do you mean you just can't turn a wrench the right way to get a bolt off?
Wow. What a revelation.
BTW, is counter-clockwise backwards in Australia? Enquiring minds want to
know.
Yep. Just because we use English doesn't mean we all comprehend the words.
Byron
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project [message #129020 is a reply to message #129014] |
Mon, 06 June 2011 22:50 |
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USAussie
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Ken,
Logical question but there is no pro-clockwise!
There are open ended spanners, ring spanners, and shifting spanners.
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Burton
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 1:36 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Isolation pad project
I there also a pro-clockwise?
Is it also a spanner?
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76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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Rob M. (USAussie)
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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