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[GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128771] Sun, 05 June 2011 15:30 Go to next message
Richard Denney is currently offline  Richard Denney   United States
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Just got back from Alaska two days ago. First real vacation in several
years, and this time it was a motorhome caravan from Anchorage to Valdez to
Fairbanks and back to Anchorage. Three motorhomes and seven people, all in
their 70's and 80's except for the Redhead and myself. Also, I have been so
busy that I have not checked GMCnet for long enough to really miss my
friends. But that probably won't improve--I'm in Albany later this week, New
Mexico next week, Connecticut the week after that, and St. Louis the week
after that. And I have attracted a new assignment (on top of my old
assignments) filling in for one of our HQ guys who has rotated out to a
field office. Busy, busy, busy.

As in 2007 when we made the reverse loop, we rented new Winnebagos from
Great Alaskan Holidays. The one we rented for three of us (including my
father-in-law--aka the GMC PO) was a 32-foot Class C on a Ford E450 chassis.
We got about 10.5 mpg cruising at about 50-55 over the whole route. These
motorhomes did not feel comfortable at 60 mph or over, which is not
surprising. Ours had a 16-foot wheelbase with a 32-foot length, and a huge
14-foot rear overhang. It was like driving a school bus, except heavier. The
ride of these was dreadful on the frost heave and rough pavement joints of
Alaska highways, particularly the minimally maintained Richardson Highway
between the Tok Cutoff and Delta Junction.

These motorhomes NEED macerators. Neither my parents (in their own
motorhome) nor the Redhead's aunt and uncle are not RVers, it fell to me to
maintain all the motorhomes. That meant a lot of dumping. They scoffed at my
"no poop on the bus" rule. The dumping arrangements on these motorhomes were
not good. I do not understand why even high-end motorhomes don't offer
macerators.

And I hate slide-outs. I lost an expensive photography light meter when it
vibrated behind the face flange of a room slide and got squished when the
Redhead tried to engage the slide. The bathroom door on our motorhome would
not open fully without the slide being out. Two of the motorhomes had steps
in them. A step going into the back half of a motorhome whose floor is
already four steps off the ground. Huh?

Good thing it had cockpit doors--nobody could get into the cockpit from the
house except me, and it was none too easy even for me. The cockpits were
uncomfortable with no leg room--nutty in a vehicle that big. With the rear
overhang, the outsides of turns was even more restricted than the insides.

We saw one GMC during this trip, at Denali NP visitor center last Monday. It
was a Buskirk conversion from some years ago. I have the TZE and will post a
picture of it eventually, compared with the shoe boxes we'd rented.

RV camprgrounds in Alaska are expensive and tend to the KOA Hell concept. We
stayed at one in Valdez, where after pulling into the (too small) slot we'd
rented, the guy next door (also in a rented motorhome) announced (just for
my information) that he was planning to build a large bonfire 1 foot from
the side of our motorhome. He'd piled enough wood in that fire ring to burn
for two days. His wife suggested they move their fire and he said "We ain't
moving that fire." I suggested that we talk to the campground folks--they
moved us instead of the fire. That sort of obnoxiousness is more rare in
places where people own their motorhomes rather than renting them. He left
one day to drive around and left his sewer hose unconnected, laying on the
ground, and inserted into the dump opening. The campground people game and
took it away--that breaks theirs (and anyone else's) rules. He thought we'd
stolen it, and we caught him poking around our motorhomes the next morning
looking for a sewer hose. Wasn't sorry to see him go.

We met a fellow in an Alfa diesel pusher both in Fairbanks and again at
Denali. He was from Santa Fe, Texas, and he embodied what is good about
RVers. I was glad the folks in our group didn't have to form an opinion of
RVers based on the one bad example.

Most places have state parks with partial hookups or primitive sites that
are big enough for an RV. Had we been in a more experienced group, we'd have
used those exclusively.

One thing about Alaska in the summertime--you never have to drive in the
dark. Sunset was around 11 PM, and sunrise--well--I never stayed up late
enough to know. We didn't bring flashlights and even at 1AM didn't need
them.

Things to see in Alaska that provide reasonable motorhome parking and
access:
-The Valley Inn in Palmer. Breakfast here will hold you for a good couple of
days.
-Prince William Sound tour boat excursions. We took the shorter one to
Columbia Glacier--spectacular. It's across the street from Bear Paw RV Park.

-The Discovery Riverboat on the Chena River in Fairbanks. This was
surprisingly entertaining and enjoyable.
-The Museum of the North at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, which now
has RV parking.
-The Trans-Alaska Pipeline display just north of Fairbanks, which is an
ample pullout off the highway. The gold-mine stuff in the area was a
disappointment, however. They were tailored to tour-bus operations and did
not reasonably accommodate walk-ins.
-Denali National Park Visitor Center, and the drive into the park. You can
drive in about 15 miles, and it's worth it. You have to take a bus to go in
further, and that may not be worth it. The RV parks around Denali are pure
KOA Hell, however. Expect little and you won't be disappointed.
-Denali State Park overlooks. Stop at both. Clouds on Mount McKinley are
common, but we had clear and and the views from these two overlooks will
stay with you.
-Mary Carey's diner, just south of Denali State Park. Food was edible, but
the story of the place makes it worth the stop. And really the only other
food along that stretch is what you bring with you.

Wasilla has become buried in suburban development. Just Drive Through.

The best RV park on our trip was (again) Homestead RV Park about 3/4 mile
east of where the Glenn Highway intersects the Parks Highway, between
Wasilla and Palmer. It has the cleanest bath house of any RV park I've ever
stayed in, and it's the perfect spot to camp just after escaping Anchorage
and just before returning there.

A week in even a cheapie Winnebago charges me up, though. Time to
de-winterize the GMC and think of a place to drive it--but with just me and
the Redhead this time.

Rick "wishing that driving to Alaska didn't eat at least five or six weeks
out of the calendar" Denney

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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128776 is a reply to message #128771] Sun, 05 June 2011 16:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great to "hear" from you again Rick and thanks for the report.

There are again many, many RV'rs in Alaska. Several bloggers sharing great trips and many finding very reasonable places to overnight, often free or cheap.

http://rvdrivingschool.blogspot.com/2011_06_01_archive.html

Thanks again for your story.



Richard Denney wrote on Sun, 05 June 2011 15:30

Just got back from Alaska two days ago. First real vacation in several
years, and this time it was a motorhome caravan from Anchorage to Valdez to
Fairbanks and back to Anchorage. Three motorhomes and seven people, all in
their 70's and 80's except for the Redhead and myself. .....
Rick "wishing that driving to Alaska didn't eat at least five or six weeks
out of the calendar" Denney

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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128781 is a reply to message #128771] Sun, 05 June 2011 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great to hear from you again Rick. Your stops brought back quite a few memories of trips to Alaska.

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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128782 is a reply to message #128771] Sun, 05 June 2011 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Welcome back to the48

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Richard Denney <rwdenney@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just got back from Alaska two days ago. First real vacation in several
> years, and this time it was a motorhome caravan from Anchorage to Valdez to
> Fairbanks and back to Anchorage. Three motorhomes and seven people, all in
> their 70's and 80's except for the Redhead and myself. Also, I have been so
> busy that I have not checked GMCnet for long enough to really miss my
> friends. But that probably won't improve--I'm in Albany later this week, New
> Mexico next week, Connecticut the week after that, and St. Louis the week
> after that. And I have attracted a new assignment (on top of my old
> assignments) filling in for one of our HQ guys who has rotated out to a
> field office. Busy, busy, busy.
>
> As in 2007 when we made the reverse loop, we rented new Winnebagos from
> Great Alaskan Holidays. The one we rented for three of us (including my
> father-in-law--aka the GMC PO) was a 32-foot Class C on a Ford E450 chassis.
> We got about 10.5 mpg cruising at about 50-55 over the whole route. These
> motorhomes did not feel comfortable at 60 mph or over, which is not
> surprising. Ours had a 16-foot wheelbase with a 32-foot length, and a huge
> 14-foot rear overhang. It was like driving a school bus, except heavier. The
> ride of these was dreadful on the frost heave and rough pavement joints of
> Alaska highways, particularly the minimally maintained Richardson Highway
> between the Tok Cutoff and Delta Junction.
>
> These motorhomes NEED macerators. Neither my parents (in their own
> motorhome) nor the Redhead's aunt and uncle are not RVers, it fell to me to
> maintain all the motorhomes. That meant a lot of dumping. They scoffed at my
> "no poop on the bus" rule. The dumping arrangements on these motorhomes were
> not good. I do not understand why even high-end motorhomes don't offer
> macerators.
>
> And I hate slide-outs. I lost an expensive photography light meter when it
> vibrated behind the face flange of a room slide and got squished when the
> Redhead tried to engage the slide. The bathroom door on our motorhome would
> not open fully without the slide being out. Two of the motorhomes had steps
> in them. A step going into the back half of a motorhome whose floor is
> already four steps off the ground. Huh?
>
> Good thing it had cockpit doors--nobody could get into the cockpit from the
> house except me, and it was none too easy even for me. The cockpits were
> uncomfortable with no leg room--nutty in a vehicle that big. With the rear
> overhang, the outsides of turns was even more restricted than the insides.
>
> We saw one GMC during this trip, at Denali NP visitor center last Monday. It
> was a Buskirk conversion from some years ago. I have the TZE and will post a
> picture of it eventually, compared with the shoe boxes we'd rented.
>
> RV camprgrounds in Alaska are expensive and tend to the KOA Hell concept. We
> stayed at one in Valdez, where after pulling into the (too small) slot we'd
> rented, the guy next door (also in a rented motorhome) announced (just for
> my information) that he was planning to build a large bonfire 1 foot from
> the side of our motorhome. He'd piled enough wood in that fire ring to burn
> for two days. His wife suggested they move their fire and he said "We ain't
> moving that fire." I suggested that we talk to the campground folks--they
> moved us instead of the fire. That sort of obnoxiousness is more rare in
> places where people own their motorhomes rather than renting them. He left
> one day to drive around and left his sewer hose unconnected, laying on the
> ground, and inserted into the dump opening. The campground people game and
> took it away--that breaks theirs (and anyone else's) rules. He thought we'd
> stolen it, and we caught him poking around our motorhomes the next morning
> looking for a sewer hose. Wasn't sorry to see him go.
>
> We met a fellow in an Alfa diesel pusher both in Fairbanks and again at
> Denali. He was from Santa Fe, Texas, and he embodied what is good about
> RVers. I was glad the folks in our group didn't have to form an opinion of
> RVers based on the one bad example.
>
> Most places have state parks with partial hookups or primitive sites that
> are big enough for an RV. Had we been in a more experienced group, we'd have
> used those exclusively.
>
> One thing about Alaska in the summertime--you never have to drive in the
> dark. Sunset was around 11 PM, and sunrise--well--I never stayed up late
> enough to know. We didn't bring flashlights and even at 1AM didn't need
> them.
>
> Things to see in Alaska that provide reasonable motorhome parking and
> access:
> -The Valley Inn in Palmer. Breakfast here will hold you for a good couple of
> days.
> -Prince William Sound tour boat excursions. We took the shorter one to
> Columbia Glacier--spectacular. It's across the street from Bear Paw RV Park.
>
> -The Discovery Riverboat on the Chena River in Fairbanks. This was
> surprisingly entertaining and enjoyable.
> -The Museum of the North at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, which now
> has RV parking.
> -The Trans-Alaska Pipeline display just north of Fairbanks, which is an
> ample pullout off the highway. The gold-mine stuff in the area was a
> disappointment, however. They were tailored to tour-bus operations and did
> not reasonably accommodate walk-ins.
> -Denali National Park Visitor Center, and the drive into the park. You can
> drive in about 15 miles, and it's worth it. You have to take a bus to go in
> further, and that may not be worth it. The RV parks around Denali are pure
> KOA Hell, however. Expect little and you won't be disappointed.
> -Denali State Park overlooks. Stop at both. Clouds on Mount McKinley are
> common, but we had clear and and the views from these two overlooks will
> stay with you.
> -Mary Carey's diner, just south of Denali State Park. Food was edible, but
> the story of the place makes it worth the stop. And really the only other
> food along that stretch is what you bring with you.
>
> Wasilla has become buried in suburban development. Just Drive Through.
>
> The best RV park on our trip was (again) Homestead RV Park about 3/4 mile
> east of where the Glenn Highway intersects the Parks Highway, between
> Wasilla and Palmer. It has the cleanest bath house of any RV park I've ever
> stayed in, and it's the perfect spot to camp just after escaping Anchorage
> and just before returning there.
>
> A week in even a cheapie Winnebago charges me up, though. Time to
> de-winterize the GMC and think of a place to drive it--but with just me and
> the Redhead this time.
>
> Rick "wishing that driving to Alaska didn't eat at least five or six weeks
> out of the calendar" Denney
>
> --
> '73 230 "Jaws"
> Northern Virginia
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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128805 is a reply to message #128771] Sun, 05 June 2011 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rick,

Was wondering what happened to you! Thought maybe the "new" job had consumed
you entirely! After reading your report I vaguely remember you telling "us"
that you were going to take this trip.

Look forward to your posts as they are ALWAYS great!

Regards,
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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128809 is a reply to message #128771] Sun, 05 June 2011 20:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice report Rick.. I usually RV about 3 times a year in Alaska (in rental units)and frankly never foundit that great. On the otherhand I've driven up and down about 5 times and found that much more gratifying. Camping in Alaska overal is very disapointing

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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128851 is a reply to message #128771] Mon, 06 June 2011 07:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sounds like a lot of fun Rick.

Why didn't you take the GMC??

Surely you'd find less you disliked about the GMC then a SOB of any size.

Thanks for the story.

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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128874 is a reply to message #128851] Mon, 06 June 2011 08:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Larry <slawrence111@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Why didn't you take the GMC??
>

The three weeks it takes to drive it there, plus the three weeks it takes to
drive it back, were a problem.

Rick "who still works for a living" Denney

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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128878 is a reply to message #128809] Mon, 06 June 2011 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@aol.com> wrote:

>
> Nice report Rick.. I usually RV about 3 times a year in Alaska (in rental
> units)and frankly never foundit that great. On the otherhand I've driven up
> and down about 5 times and found that much more gratifying. Camping in
> Alaska overal is very disapointing
>
>
I wish I was in a position to RV anywhere I didn't find that great three
times a year, heh.

Alaska is not about campsites and destinations. It's about what you see
along the road. Next time I go, it will be just me and the Redhead and I'll
find a way to take my large-format camera. This time, I was limited by the
will of the group to grab shots, though some were with a pretty big Pentax
6x7. For example, I would dealy have loved to have stopped several times
crossing the Continental Divide on the Richardson Highway, just north of
Summit Lake. The elevation isn't that high (around 3000 feet), but at those
latitudes it's still above the treeline and the surrounding mountains are
breathtaking. I could spend days in that one spot, trying to find a way to
capture the majesty of that spot. I've never seen anything like it in the
lower 48. Spending days there, though, would require a lot of
self-sufficiency--it's as barren as any desert when it comes to human
habitation. That's where the RV comes in.

Lots of people who drive to Alaska miss that spot. It's on the Richardson
between the Tok Cutoff and Delta Junction, so it gets bypassed by people
making the standard loop from and to the Alcan Highway.

The state parks are very nice, but the commercial campsites are overpriced
and only sometimes of a quality appropriate to what they charge. They are
often filled with fish-camp or hunt-camp weekenders for whom the campsite is
place for a drinking party. Alaskans in general tend not to care what people
think about them. I'll leave it at this: sometimes they should.

Rick "who hopes to drive there someday" Denney

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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128880 is a reply to message #128805] Mon, 06 June 2011 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>
> Was wondering what happened to you! Thought maybe the "new" job had
> consumed
> you entirely!
>

I just about has. But it's been worth it. For the first time in years I feel
like I'm being relevant at work again. I don't much like the
characterizations of the federal workforce, and the fact that as soon as I
arrived, all normal compensation processes came to a halt.

By the way, for those of you who believe the media reports that federal
employees are overpaid compared to the private sector, allow me to make this
correction: The reports only apply to lower grades of non-professional
employees, and then only outside the DC area. I personally took about a 10%
cut in actual pay (much bigger than that in take-home) when I moved to the
federal service after 17 years in the private sector. And to get that much,
I'm basically stepped out with no chance of increase (other than the
now-frozen cost-of-living adjustments) until retirement in maybe another 15
years if I last that long. My retirement improved a bit though I now have no
ownership opportunity as I did with my previous company. Health benefits are
about the same. But the workplace is far more rigid with much less
empowerment over the administrative details of life, even though my agency
is better than most. Managing travel expenses, for example, is a real chore.
And then there's the 75-mile commute.

At least I get to keep my frequent-flier miles, though I could not use them
to get us to Alaska.

Rick "who mostly commutes to the airport" Denney

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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128886 is a reply to message #128878] Mon, 06 June 2011 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>
> Rick, Bob and I have been to AK twice in our GMC--'05 and '08--and we plan
> to go again next summer. He learned to watch for the frost heaves and take
> them slow.
>

We found the Alaskan residents to be very friendly and accepting and those
traveling from "Outside" were very friendly. We stayed at private RV parks
which are, as you say, little more than a gravel parking lot--but we were IN
ALASKA! It was pretty dusty and warm everywhere in '05 (July and
August) and a little muddy/wet and cool in '08 (June and July).

We have visited all the places you mentioned plus Chena Hot Springs, where
we got in the springs and visited the "Ice Palace". We went to the Anderson
Bluegrass Festival in July or August '05 and ended up spending the
night--good thing about having any RV--I had seen it advertised on a poster
and we just stopped in on a whim. It was fun watching people dancing on
gravel to some pretty good music.

Mary's McKinley View Lodge was a good stop all three times we were there
(cruised/toured in '04). We were especially intrigued by it because she
left Galveston, TX in about 1959 to travel to AK by herself and she
homesteaded the property where the lodge sits. She was also instrumental in
getting the Parks Highway built convenient to her lodge. Her daughter, a
retired teacher from Houston, was operating it when we were there and
selling some childrens' books she had written, so that made it interesting
for us.

Next summer we'll watch for that spot on the Richardson between Tok and
Delta Junction. I like taking pictures, too.

Sandra Price



> I wish I was in a position to RV anywhere I didn't find that great three
> times a year, heh.
>
> Alaska is not about campsites and destinations. It's about what you see
> along the road. Next time I go, it will be just me and the Redhead and I'll
> find a way to take my large-format camera. This time, I was limited by the
> will of the group to grab shots, though some were with a pretty big Pentax
> 6x7. For example, I would dealy have loved to have stopped several times
> crossing the Continental Divide on the Richardson Highway, just north of
> Summit Lake. The elevation isn't that high (around 3000 feet), but at those
> latitudes it's still above the treeline and the surrounding mountains are
> breathtaking. I could spend days in that one spot, trying to find a way to
> capture the majesty of that spot. I've never seen anything like it in the
> lower 48. Spending days there, though, would require a lot of
> self-sufficiency--it's as barren as any desert when it comes to human
> habitation. That's where the RV comes in.
>
> Lots of people who drive to Alaska miss that spot. It's on the Richardson
> between the Tok Cutoff and Delta Junction, so it gets bypassed by people
> making the standard loop from and to the Alcan Highway.
>
> The state parks are very nice, but the commercial campsites are overpriced
> and only sometimes of a quality appropriate to what they charge. They are
> often filled with fish-camp or hunt-camp weekenders for whom the campsite
> is
> place for a drinking party. Alaskans in general tend not to care what
> people
> think about them. I'll leave it at this: sometimes they should.
>
> Rick "who hopes to drive there someday" Denney
>
> --
> '73 230 "Jaws"
> Northern Virginia
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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128893 is a reply to message #128886] Mon, 06 June 2011 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Denney is currently offline  Richard Denney   United States
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On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Sandra Price <bsprice9359@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mary's McKinley View Lodge was a good stop all three times we were there
> (cruised/toured in '04). We were especially intrigued by it because she
> left Galveston, TX in about 1959 to travel to AK by herself and she
> homesteaded the property where the lodge sits. She was also instrumental
> in
> getting the Parks Highway built convenient to her lodge. Her daughter, a
> retired teacher from Houston, was operating it when we were there and
> selling some childrens' books she had written, so that made it interesting
> for us.
>

Yes, she was quite a character. Mary Carey died in 2004 and her daughter is
still running it. It's a real piece of Alaskan lore that, like lots of
Alaskan lore, can still be experienced first-hand.

We found an equally colorful woman who owned several of the gift shops in
Nenanah. She had moved there in 1969. She had been the champion female pool
player in Wisconsin, and arrived in Nenanah penniless--until she found the
local pool hall. She hustled up $700 to get started and she's still there.
No word on the guys she hustled.

Rick "and she'll play some Alaskan/Wisconsin/Cajun accordion music for you,
too" Denney

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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128899 is a reply to message #128893] Mon, 06 June 2011 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Rick, reading about your Alaska adventure reminded me of Mary & my cruise to
there. When we were in Ketchikan we took a horse drawn guided tour of the
place, and the tour guide was a great looking Kalifornia blond. She had
heard that the men outnumber the women 5 to 1 there, and she liked the odds.
After a couple of years she had the following observation, "Yes, the odds
are good, but the goods are odd!" Alaskans are similar to Aussies. Natives
are few and far between, and the transplants all seek Alaska out because it
is the final outpost in a over regulated and over governed lower 48.
Independent thinkers they be.
Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for sharing your experiences with us.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Richard Denney <rwdenney@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Sandra Price <bsprice9359@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Mary's McKinley View Lodge was a good stop all three times we were there
> > (cruised/toured in '04). We were especially intrigued by it because she
> > left Galveston, TX in about 1959 to travel to AK by herself and she
> > homesteaded the property where the lodge sits. She was also instrumental
> > in
> > getting the Parks Highway built convenient to her lodge. Her daughter, a
> > retired teacher from Houston, was operating it when we were there and
> > selling some childrens' books she had written, so that made it
> interesting
> > for us.
> >
>
> Yes, she was quite a character. Mary Carey died in 2004 and her daughter is
> still running it. It's a real piece of Alaskan lore that, like lots of
> Alaskan lore, can still be experienced first-hand.
>
> We found an equally colorful woman who owned several of the gift shops in
> Nenanah. She had moved there in 1969. She had been the champion female pool
> player in Wisconsin, and arrived in Nenanah penniless--until she found the
> local pool hall. She hustled up $700 to get started and she's still there.
> No word on the guys she hustled.
>
> Rick "and she'll play some Alaskan/Wisconsin/Cajun accordion music for you,
> too" Denney
>
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128906 is a reply to message #128899] Mon, 06 June 2011 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Denney is currently offline  Richard Denney   United States
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On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:43 AM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:

> ...and the transplants all seek Alaska out because it
> is the final outpost in a over regulated and over governed lower 48.
> Independent thinkers they be.
>

Yes, Alaskans seem to be escaping something--regulation, rules, crowds,
cities...

...arrest warrants...

We were accosted by one, well, wacko at an overlook. While I was
photographing Mount Drum in the Wrangell-St. Elias range (a repeat of this
photograph linked here:
http://www.rickdenney.com/images/MtWrangell2007.jpg), he was
challenging the other members of our party on whether or not they
had paid their 1922 taxes. They assured him that despite outward appearances
(my father, the oldest of the group, was born in 1928), they owed no 1922
taxes. He drove up having seen us drive into the overlook with three
motorhomes, and I wondered what other groups of tourists shortened their
stay at that overlook because of him.

Rick "thinking you have to take Alaska as it comes" Denney

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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128907 is a reply to message #128893] Mon, 06 June 2011 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I forgot all about the lady in Nenana,who had, just recently, when we met
her, found her long lost daughter... She operates a little
antiques/collectibles shop--true Alaskan living.

Sandra

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Richard Denney <rwdenney@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Sandra Price <bsprice9359@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Mary's McKinley View Lodge was a good stop all three times we were there
> > (cruised/toured in '04). We were especially intrigued by it because she
> > left Galveston, TX in about 1959 to travel to AK by herself and she
> > homesteaded the property where the lodge sits. She was also instrumental
> > in
> > getting the Parks Highway built convenient to her lodge. Her daughter, a
> > retired teacher from Houston, was operating it when we were there and
> > selling some childrens' books she had written, so that made it
> interesting
> > for us.
> >
>
> Yes, she was quite a character. Mary Carey died in 2004 and her daughter is
> still running it. It's a real piece of Alaskan lore that, like lots of
> Alaskan lore, can still be experienced first-hand.
>
> We found an equally colorful woman who owned several of the gift shops in
> Nenanah. She had moved there in 1969. She had been the champion female pool
> player in Wisconsin, and arrived in Nenanah penniless--until she found the
> local pool hall. She hustled up $700 to get started and she's still there.
> No word on the guys she hustled.
>
> Rick "and she'll play some Alaskan/Wisconsin/Cajun accordion music for you,
> too" Denney
>
> --
> '73 230 "Jaws"
> Northern Virginia
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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128946 is a reply to message #128906] Mon, 06 June 2011 17:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rick,

WOW your Dad must be an adventurous guy making this trip at 83!

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128980 is a reply to message #128946] Mon, 06 June 2011 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>
> WOW your Dad must be an adventurous guy making this trip at 83!
>

The last time he was in Alaska was when he was commanding a listening post
for the Army Security Agency during the Korean war. He was stationed on St.
Lawrence Island in the Bering Straits, but had served time at Fort
Richardson plus a few other places in Alaska. Adventurous? You bet.

But except for the Redhead and myself, he was the oldest by only 10 years.
When I think if my friends in the GMC community, however, I know many in
that age range who are every bit as adventurous.

Rick "just looking through pictures tonight" Denney

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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128984 is a reply to message #128771] Mon, 06 June 2011 21:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Richard Denney <rwdenney@gmail.com> wrote:

> We saw one GMC during this trip, at Denali NP visitor center last Monday.
> It was a Buskirk conversion from some years ago. I have the TZE and will
> post a picture of it eventually, compared with the shoe boxes we'd rented.
>
> Here's a picture of the GMC we sighted at Denali:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=39508&title=gmc-sighting-at-denali&cat=4227

Rick "wishing he'd been in his GMC" Denney

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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #128997 is a reply to message #128984] Mon, 06 June 2011 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That _IS_ a sweet looking coach!

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> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 22:10:08 -0400
> From: rwdenney@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC
>
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Richard Denney wrote:
>
> > We saw one GMC during this trip, at Denali NP visitor center last Monday.
> > It was a Buskirk conversion from some years ago. I have the TZE and will
> > post a picture of it eventually, compared with the shoe boxes we'd rented.
> >
> > Here's a picture of the GMC we sighted at Denali:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=39508&title=gmc-sighting-at-denali&cat=4227
>
> Rick "wishing he'd been in his GMC" Denney
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Trip Report from Alaska, or Why I Like My GMC [message #129065 is a reply to message #128997] Tue, 07 June 2011 09:04 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:38 PM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> That _IS_ a sweet looking coach!
>

Like my coach, it looks better in pictures than in real life. This one is
starting to fade a bit. But it has Alaska plates and Alaska is tough on
vehicles.

Rick "wondering if we know the owner" Denney

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