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A/C compressor [message #128295] Thu, 02 June 2011 09:06 Go to next message
thorndike is currently offline  thorndike   United States
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Good afternoon,

In my efforts to get my GMC ready to go, I noticed that when I turn on the dash air, I have no indication that the A/C compressor is starting up. There is no momentary drop in engine RPMs, no compressor sound, etc. Obviously I have a problem.

Before I start randomly trying to solve this, are there any suggestions as to the likely cause that I should check first?

Bob


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Re: A/C compressor [message #128319 is a reply to message #128295] Thu, 02 June 2011 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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thorndike wrote on Thu, 02 June 2011 10:06

Good afternoon,

In my efforts to get my GMC ready to go, I noticed that when I turn on the dash air, I have no indication that the A/C compressor is starting up. There is no momentary drop in engine RPMs, no compressor sound, etc. Obviously I have a problem.

Before I start randomly trying to solve this, are there any suggestions as to the likely cause that I should check first?

Bob

Bob,

Out in the front is a switch in the suction line. This is a low pressure cut-off switch, and if the charge has leaked down too much the compressor won't even start. First thing to do is jump that that switch, if the compressor starts don't let it run long.

That means the system is charge short. It may have a leak that actually needs fixing, but get something in it first.

Matt


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Re: A/C compressor [message #128390 is a reply to message #128295] Thu, 02 June 2011 18:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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Matt is totally correct in his advice. But, you may be lucky as ALL automotive AC systems leak, by design, and they all leak at different rates. If your system was low last fall, enough charge may have leaked out over winter, compounded by disuse and lack of oil distribution, to get just below the trigger point on the switch. You may need 1.5 cans or more to be back to full charge. If you are losing less than a pound a year, in my mind I would just top off each year, or maybe run the unit more assuming moderate temps later into the fall and sooner in the spring so it doesn't sit so long idle. This seems to help at the compressor seal, but won't do much if the swag joints are failing on the hoses. With leaks you have to decide when it is worth the effort to discharge and repair. I'm assuming R12. Once charged you can have the system checked with one of the sniffer tools to try to see where the leak(s)is/are. But if your system has not been charged in several years, the leak rate may still be very low and you werer just due for a recharge. Good luck.

John Lebetski
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Re: A/C compressor [message #128397 is a reply to message #128295] Thu, 02 June 2011 20:29 Go to previous message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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thorndike wrote on Thu, 02 June 2011 08:06

Good afternoon,

In my efforts to get my GMC ready to go, I noticed that when I turn on the dash air, I have no indication that the A/C compressor is starting up. There is no momentary drop in engine RPMs, no compressor sound, etc. Obviously I have a problem.

Before I start randomly trying to solve this, are there any suggestions as to the likely cause that I should check first?

Bob

Does your blower fan come on? Also there is a switch mounted to the evaporator which will control icing if the temp gets too cold. There is a wire that is in series with the low pressure switch that leads to the switvh hidden behind the evaporator cover--make sure it is plugged in or jumper across the connector to check if the switch is open. And then of course, double check the connector at the compressor clutch.


Bob de Kruyff
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Chandler, AZ
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