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| VERY time sensitive problem. Shifting out of Park [message #127743] |
Sat, 28 May 2011 10:26  |
thorndike
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Location: Conifer, Colorado
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Folks, it's me in Northern Virginia with another problem.
We have been notified that we need to remove our GMC from the storage lot this weekend. They are not storing RV's anymore and are using those spaces to build more covered storage. Anything left past this weekend will be towed.
I drove the RV two weeks ago and everything seemed to be working well. When I got into it this morning to move it out of the lot, it would NOT shift out of park. I did a bit of searching on the forum and found a discussion concerning the possibility of the cable rusting and sticking, so I will look at that when I finish this note. If anyone has any other ideas, please let me know as I am under considerable time constraints.
Unfortunately, the coach is parked uphill on a slight slope (maybe 10-15 degrees). I am afraid that because of the slope it may be putting too much pressure on the transmission prohibiting me from shifting out of PARK.
I have no wireless connectivity at the storage lot, so I will not be able to check the forum while I am there. I WILL be able to get emails and phone calls if anyone has a solution!
email:rpeesel @ gmail.com
phone: 571 235 3564
Oh, I AM a member of coach-net so I assume that I could call them for towing if need be. Does anyone have any experience with them? Is this the type of issue that would be covered?
Thanks!
Robert Peesel
1976 Royale 26'
Side Dry Bath
Conifer, Colorado
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| Re: [GMCnet] VERY time sensitive problem. Shifting out of Park [message #127748 is a reply to message #127743] |
Sat, 28 May 2011 10:48  |
James Hupy
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You have tension against the parking pawl in the transmission, caused from
parking on an uphill slope. Put a rubber tire between the front bumper of
your pick up and the rear bumper of the GMC and put a pushing load on. Don't
actually have to try to move the GMC, just unload the park pawl. Should do
the trick.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Robert Peesel <thorndike@pldsllc.com>wrote:
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> Folks, it's me in Northern Virginia with another problem.
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> We have been notified that we need to remove our GMC from the storage lot
> this weekend. They are not storing RV's anymore and are using those spaces
> to build more covered storage. Anything left past this weekend will be
> towed.
>
> I drove the RV two weeks ago and everything seemed to be working well.
> When I got into it this morning to move it out of the lot, it would NOT
> shift out of park. I did a bit of searching on the forum and found a
> discussion concerning the possibility of the cable rusting and sticking, so
> I will look at that when I finish this note. If anyone has any other ideas,
> please let me know as I am under considerable time constraints.
>
> Unfortunately, the coach is parked uphill on a slight slope (maybe 10-15
> degrees). I am afraid that because of the slope it may be putting too much
> pressure on the transmission prohibiting me from shifting out of PARK.
>
> I have no wireless connectivity at the storage lot, so I will not be able
> to check the forum while I am there. I WILL be able to get emails and phone
> calls if anyone has a solution!
>
> email:rpeesel @ gmail.com
> phone: 571 235 3564
>
> Oh, I AM a member of coach-net so I assume that I could call them for
> towing if need be. Does anyone have any experience with them? Is this the
> type of issue that would be covered?
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Robert Peesel
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> 1976 Royale 26'
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> Side Dry Bath
>
> Sterling, Va
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| Re: [GMCnet] VERY time sensitive problem. Shifting out of Park [message #127778 is a reply to message #127748] |
Sat, 28 May 2011 13:48 |
thorndike
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Well,
I had some friends rock the rv forward until the weight was off the transmission. Unfortunately, I was still unable to shift out of Park.
I have been trying to soak the cable in case it is locked up as JimK suggests.
Bob
Robert Peesel
1976 Royale 26'
Side Dry Bath
Conifer, Colorado
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| Re: [GMCnet] VERY time sensitive problem. Shifting out of Park [message #127780 is a reply to message #127754] |
Sat, 28 May 2011 13:54 |
thorndike
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Jim,
I disconnected the cable at the steering column and was able to push and pull it about 1/4" freely. I am going to go back to the lot and crawl under while a friend does the same thing, but from the sound and feel of it, it seems that the cable is not binding.
When I get back tot he lot with my tools, I am going to crawl under and disconnect the end closest to the transmission and see if I have free movement of the cable. If the cable is free to that point, I am not sure what my next move is going to be.
Oh yes, I had the GMC idling for about 10 minutes and checked the transmission fluid. It appears full, but I am on an incline. Will just idling the engine give me a good reading on the ATF, or do I need to be driving for a bit before I can get an accurate reading?
Bob
Robert Peesel
1976 Royale 26'
Side Dry Bath
Conifer, Colorado
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| Re: [GMCnet] VERY time sensitive problem. Shifting out of Park [message #127788 is a reply to message #127780] |
Sat, 28 May 2011 14:39 |
jimk
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The level of the fluid is not effecting the problem.
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Robert Peesel <thorndike@pldsllc.com> wrote:
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> Jim,
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> I disconnected the cable at the steering column and was able to push and pull it about 1/4" freely. I am going to go back to the lot and crawl under while a friend does the same thing, but from the sound and feel of it, it seems that the cable is not binding.
>
> When I get back tot he lot with my tools, I am going to crawl under and disconnect the end closest to the transmission and see if I have free movement of the cable. If the cable is free to that point, I am not sure what my next move is going to be.
>
> Oh yes, I had the GMC idling for about 10 minutes and checked the transmission fluid. It appears full, but I am on an incline. Will just idling the engine give me a good reading on the ATF, or do I need to be driving for a bit before I can get an accurate reading?
>
> Bob
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> --
> Robert Peesel
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> 1976 Royale 26'
>
> Side Dry Bath
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> Sterling, Va
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| Re: [GMCnet] VERY time sensitive problem. Shifting out of Park [message #127790 is a reply to message #127743] |
Sat, 28 May 2011 14:55 |
Steven Ferguson
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Another way is to release the park brake if set, then dump the bags. While
the bags are airing down, pull down on the shift lever.
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Robert Peesel <thorndike@pldsllc.com>wrote:
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> Folks, it's me in Northern Virginia with another problem.
>
> We have been notified that we need to remove our GMC from the storage lot
> this weekend. They are not storing RV's anymore and are using those spaces
> to build more covered storage. Anything left past this weekend will be
> towed.
>
> I drove the RV two weeks ago and everything seemed to be working well.
> When I got into it this morning to move it out of the lot, it would NOT
> shift out of park. I did a bit of searching on the forum and found a
> discussion concerning the possibility of the cable rusting and sticking, so
> I will look at that when I finish this note. If anyone has any other ideas,
> please let me know as I am under considerable time constraints.
>
> Unfortunately, the coach is parked uphill on a slight slope (maybe 10-15
> degrees). I am afraid that because of the slope it may be putting too much
> pressure on the transmission prohibiting me from shifting out of PARK.
>
> I have no wireless connectivity at the storage lot, so I will not be able
> to check the forum while I am there. I WILL be able to get emails and phone
> calls if anyone has a solution!
>
> email:rpeesel @ gmail.com
> phone: 571 235 3564
>
> Oh, I AM a member of coach-net so I assume that I could call them for
> towing if need be. Does anyone have any experience with them? Is this the
> type of issue that would be covered?
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Robert Peesel
>
> 1976 Royale 26'
>
> Side Dry Bath
>
> Sterling, Va
> _______________________________________________
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| Re: VERY time sensitive problem. Shifting out of Park [message #127799 is a reply to message #127743] |
Sat, 28 May 2011 15:47 |
Rodney Hamilton
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| thorndike wrote on Sat, 28 May 2011 11:26 |
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I drove the RV two weeks ago and everything seemed to be working well. When I got into it this morning to move it out of the lot, it would NOT shift out of park. I did a bit of searching on the forum and found a discussion concerning the possibility of the cable rusting and sticking, so I will look at that when I finish this note. If anyone has any other ideas, please let me know as I am under considerable time constraints.
Unfortunately, the coach is parked uphill on a slight slope (maybe 10-15 degrees). I am afraid that because of the slope it may be putting too much pressure on the transmission prohibiting me from shifting out of PARK.
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I just had a similar problem.
Do you have a battery tray on the front driver side? I do and the shift cable cover wore down to the point that the cable no longer ran in a smooth arc but almost ninety degrees. I didn't realize it until I forced the shifter breaking the last few strands of the outer casing, which left me no way to shift.
Btw. The push/pull shift cable runs in a (looks like) nylon sleeve inside the twisted wire plastic coated sheath. The two end are the only place were the inner cable could bind and there's a lot of clearance for crud and rust and I don't think it could ever bind... So take off the wheel liner and check the cable for any sharp bends. Wish I had before forced it and hand to improvise a repair before our NYC trip.
Rodney Hamilton
Late 76 PB, 455
Montreal Canada
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| Re: [GMCnet] VERY time sensitive problem. Shifting out of Park [message #127814 is a reply to message #127799] |
Sat, 28 May 2011 17:35 |
jimk
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It was the shift cable that is jamed due to corrosion.
He will reach through the hatch and put it in reverse by moving the
transfer bracket.
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Rodney Hamilton
<rodney.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote:
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> thorndike wrote on Sat, 28 May 2011 11:26
>> ...
>> I drove the RV two weeks ago and everything seemed to be working well. When I got into it this morning to move it out of the lot, it would NOT shift out of park. I did a bit of searching on the forum and found a discussion concerning the possibility of the cable rusting and sticking, so I will look at that when I finish this note. If anyone has any other ideas, please let me know as I am under considerable time constraints.
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>> Unfortunately, the coach is parked uphill on a slight slope (maybe 10-15 degrees). I am afraid that because of the slope it may be putting too much pressure on the transmission prohibiting me from shifting out of PARK.
>> ...
>> !
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> I just had a similar problem.
> Do you have a battery tray on the front driver side? I do and the shift cable cover wore down to the point that the cable no longer ran in a smooth arc but almost ninety degrees. I didn't realize it until I forced the shifter breaking the last few strands of the outer casing, which left me no way to shift.
>
> Btw. The push/pull shift cable runs in a (looks like) nylon sleeve inside the twisted wire plastic coated sheath. The two end are the only place were the inner cable could bind and there's a lot of clearance for crud and rust and I don't think it could ever bind... So take off the wheel liner and check the cable for any sharp bends. Wish I had before forced it and hand to improvise a repair before our NYC trip.
> --
> Rodney Hamilton
> Late 76 PB, 455
> Montreal Canada
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| Re: VERY time sensitive problem. Shifting out of Park [message #127865 is a reply to message #127799] |
Sat, 28 May 2011 23:48 |
Ken Burton
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| Rodney Hamilton wrote on Sat, 28 May 2011 15:47 |
Btw. The push/pull shift cable runs in a (looks like) nylon sleeve inside the twisted wire plastic coated sheath. The two end are the only place were the inner cable could bind and there's a lot of clearance for crud and rust and I don't think it could ever bind... So take off the wheel liner and check the cable for any sharp bends. Wish I had before forced it and hand to improvise a repair before our NYC trip.
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The bottom end will rust and bind. I have had that bug. Once the cable is removed and cleaned up, coat the bottom end with anti- seize to prevent future similar failures.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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