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455 Vixen claims 15-20 mpg [message #127648]

Fri, 27 May 2011 14:08

gordh1

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I find these "things" kind of interesting. Can't for the life of me figure why someone would have tossed the 30 or so mpg original engine choices - still betters a GM (if true) and perhaps shows about the best mpg one might expect from a 455 in a motorhome. I wonder if it was all tweaked if it could get 25 mpg?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250826667755

Rather overpriced imho. It's rare - it's not made of gold. Laughing

Gord

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Re: [GMCnet] 455 Vixen claims 15-20 mpg [message #127651 is a reply to message #127648]

Fri, 27 May 2011 14:42

Ray Erspamer

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We saw one of these several years ago in upper Michigan, very unique and
interesting coach.

Ray

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Subject: [GMCnet] 455 Vixen claims 15-20 mpg

I find these "things" kind of interesting. Can't for the life of me figure why
someone would have tossed the 30 or so mpg original engine choices - still
betters a GM (if true) and perhaps shows about the best mpg one might expect
from a 455 in a motorhome. I wonder if it was all tweaked if it could get 25
mpg?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250826667755

Rather overpriced imho. It's rare - it's not made of gold. :lol:

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Re: 455 Vixen claims 15-20 mpg [message #127652 is a reply to message #127648]

Fri, 27 May 2011 14:46

GeorgeRud

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One of my former neighbors had one, and they were quite unique. I think that they came with a BMW diesel engine, and that's probably where the mileage came from. Don't know how the 455 conversion would do in the real world, it sounds like a custom conversion. They are also quite small when compared with most RVs as they were designed to be able to fit into a standard garage.

I'm sure that there is an internet group devoted to them, but that is quite a lofty price that he wants.

George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach

[Updated on: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:48]

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Re: [GMCnet] 455 Vixen claims 15-20 mpg [message #127664 is a reply to message #127651]

Fri, 27 May 2011 15:54

hnielsen2

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Ray
I thought the power was BMW 6's and/or Buick V-6's
Howard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Erspamer" <78gmc-royale@att.net>
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 455 Vixen claims 15-20 mpg

> We saw one of these several years ago in upper Michigan, very unique and
> interesting coach.
>
>
> Ray
>
>
> Ray & Lisa Erspamer
> 78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
> Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> 414-745-3188
> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
>
>
>
>
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> From: Gord H <tze064v1000890@gmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 2:08:07 PM
> Subject: [GMCnet] 455 Vixen claims 15-20 mpg
>
>
>
> I find these "things" kind of interesting. Can't for the life of me figure
> why
> someone would have tossed the 30 or so mpg original engine choices - still
> betters a GM (if true) and perhaps shows about the best mpg one might
> expect
> from a 455 in a motorhome. I wonder if it was all tweaked if it could get
> 25
> mpg?
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250826667755
>
> Rather overpriced imho. It's rare - it's not made of gold. :lol:
>
> Gord
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Re: 455 Vixen claims 15-20 mpg [message #127669 is a reply to message #127648]

Fri, 27 May 2011 16:08

GeorgeRud

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They were powered by the Buick or BMW engines, but this particular coach was converted to a 455.

George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach

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Re: 455 Vixen claims 15-20 mpg [message #127674 is a reply to message #127648]

Fri, 27 May 2011 17:31

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great looking coach and in very nice condition. i wish he had a pic of the engine install. here is a web sight:
http://stannerair.hypermart.net/Vixenhome.htm

Fred V
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P'cola, Fl

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Re: [GMCnet] 455 Vixen claims 15-20 mpg [message #127677 is a reply to message #127674]

Fri, 27 May 2011 18:20

Byron Songer

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Interesting. I don't recall a "high top" version but the 89 that's for sale
is one. $25K.

Some of us on here have a friend with a Vixen. He lives in Canada. I may be
a closet Vixen owner so I won't reveal his name.

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Fred Veenschoten wrote:

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> great looking coach and in very nice condition. i wish he had a pic of the
> engine install. here is a web sight:
> http://stannerair.hypermart.net/Vixenhome.htm

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Re: [GMCnet] 455 Vixen claims 15-20 mpg [message #127679 is a reply to message #127677]

Fri, 27 May 2011 18:51

USAussie

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Byron,

"closet Vixen" - sounds kinky! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Byron Songer

Interesting. I don't recall a "high top" version but the 89 that's for sale
is one. $25K.

Some of us on here have a friend with a Vixen. He lives in Canada. I may be
a closet Vixen owner so I won't reveal his name.

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Re: [GMCnet] 455 Vixen claims 15-20 mpg [message #127686 is a reply to message #127679]

Fri, 27 May 2011 19:58

mike miller

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If I Understand Correctly: the last year (or two?) of the Vixen the changed to a gas v6 engine with an automatic AND they went to a fixed raised top.

"closet Vixen" would be more interesting if it wasn't referring to a "he".

I think a good idea would be something with the mechanicals like this e-bay unit (maybe a small block chevy vs the 455) and a body like the early GMC design model. <http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/faq/what.html>

Robert Mueller wrote on Fri, 27 May 2011 16:51

Byron,

"closet Vixen" - sounds kinky! Wink

-----Original Message-----
>> From: Byron Songer
>>
>> Interesting. I don't recall a "high top" version but the
>> 89 that's for sale is one. $25K.
>>
>> Some of us on here have a friend with a Vixen. He lives
>> in Canada. I may be a closet Vixen owner so I won't reveal
>> his name.

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Re: [GMCnet] 455 Vixen claims 15-20 mpg [message #127734 is a reply to message #127677]

Sat, 28 May 2011 09:32

Larry C

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The 89 has the windows in the front top addition... I saw Rob Greys old WotheHeckisit coach ( number 1 ) had skylights that I just thought was cool as can be.

I have not seen much picture info on the number 2 coach so I don't know if it has the skylights as well, but they sure light up the coach and bring on an airy feeling....

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Re: 455 Vixen claims 15-20 mpg [message #127801 is a reply to message #127648]

Sat, 28 May 2011 16:12

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I met and talked with the owner of a Vixen 21 in April on the way to the GMCWS rally. The guy told me that he got about 28 mpg and that the engine was a BMW turbo diesel with the engine in the rear. I was impressed with that until I passed him on the approach to Tehachapi - the hill had barely started and he already had slowed to about 50. We stopped at the top and watched him drive by - it took him quite a while to climb to the top - but for 28mpg I might overlook some faults. I'd say the original engine was underpowered. It is a nice looking vehicle but the lack of interior height - he invited us in to see it - while driving and the overall small size make it less than desirable for us. I wonder how they got a 455 in there. Here (http://minniebiz.com/gmcmotorhome/2011/04/24/easter-sunday-april-24th-on-to-bakersfield/) is a link to the photos and limited writeup.

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