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Thu, 26 May 2011 21:22  |
Wayne
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I am replacing an outer axle boot. I think I remember someone on this forum saying not to band the little end. Is this correct and why.
Thanks
Wayne Lawrence
76 Birchaven
Bellflower CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Banding Axle Boots [message #127612 is a reply to message #127607] |
Thu, 26 May 2011 23:03  |
James Hupy
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Wayne, remember you are doing two things there, you are preventing a loss of
lubricant, and you are preventing abrasive dust and/or water from entering.
Just be sure that the small end is where it belongs on the axle, sometimes
on the convouluted boots that are quite stiff they will extend too far
towards the middle of the shaft. Proper size hose clamp will work on the
small end, but not the large end if you do not have a banding tool at your
disposal. If you just wanted to have one in your tool box, NAPA stores still
carried them the last time I looked. I think they cost around $27.00 if I
remember right.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Larry <weidnerl@wwt.net> wrote:
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> Wayne wrote on Thu, 26 May 2011 21:22
> > I am replacing an outer axle boot. I think I remember someone on this
> forum saying not to band the little end. Is this correct and why.
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> > Thanks
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> I used a heater hose clamp on the little end. Works for me...6 years now.
> Just gotta be careful that you don't over-tighten. Just my relatively
> informed, off the cuff, back yard mecahnic, gut level, eyeball it up and
> guestimate, way of doing things....that's all...
> --
> Larry :)
> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
> Menomonie, WI.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Banding Axle Boots [message #127628 is a reply to message #127612] |
Fri, 27 May 2011 08:51 |
Larry
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| James Hupy wrote on Thu, 26 May 2011 23:03 |
Wayne, remember you are doing two things there, you are preventing a loss of
lubricant, and you are preventing abrasive dust and/or water from entering.
Just be sure that the small end is where it belongs on the axle, sometimes
on the convouluted boots that are quite stiff they will extend too far
towards the middle of the shaft. Proper size hose clamp will work on the
small end, but not the large end if you do not have a banding tool at your
disposal. If you just wanted to have one in your tool box, NAPA stores still
carried them the last time I looked. I think they cost around $27.00 if I
remember right.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Larry <weidnerl@wwt.net> wrote:
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> Wayne wrote on Thu, 26 May 2011 21:22
> > I am replacing an outer axle boot. I think I remember someone on this
> forum saying not to band the little end. Is this correct and why.
> >
> > Thanks
>
> I used a heater hose clamp on the little end. Works for me...6 years now.
> Just gotta be careful that you don't over-tighten. Just my relatively
> informed, off the cuff, back yard mecahnic, gut level, eyeball it up and
> guestimate, way of doing things....that's all...
> --
> Larry 
> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
> Menomonie, WI.
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I tried using a larger hose clamp on the big end and found that the screw portion of it hit... something ... don't remember what,,,I just looked and it won't clear the top nut on the ball joint, lower A frame. So I had to use a band. Double banding has been encouraged here, but mine have been single banded for 6 yrs with no problem. I think if you get the boot contact point on the axle squeaky clean, it has a better chance of staying and not slipping off. Just what I think...
Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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| Re: Banding Axle Boots [message #127646 is a reply to message #127602] |
Fri, 27 May 2011 13:37 |
Ken Burton
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| Wayne wrote on Thu, 26 May 2011 21:22 |
I am replacing an outer axle boot. I think I remember someone on this forum saying not to band the little end. Is this correct and why.
Thanks
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Wayne,
I have seen it done both ways with the clamp on the axle and without. The first time I saw it left off it was by a long time GMCer at a work rally. Leaving it off lets the boot slide slightly after installation and allows it to find it's own natural position. Also leaving the clamp off prevents stress cracking of the boot near the clamp over time.
It is your choice. I forget if we clamped mine or not.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Banding Axle Boots [message #127740 is a reply to message #127628] |
Sat, 28 May 2011 10:00 |
Jim Bounds
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We carry the rachet band tightening tool and double wrap bands, let me know if
you need them. Since we started in on using the double wrap bands, we have had
great success in keeping them on. Also, you need a better boot than what most
local shops offer.
Jim Bounds
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----- Original Message ----
From: Larry <weidnerl@wwt.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 9:51:17 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Banding Axle Boots
James Hupy wrote on Thu, 26 May 2011 23:03
> Wayne, remember you are doing two things there, you are preventing a loss of
> lubricant, and you are preventing abrasive dust and/or water from entering.
> Just be sure that the small end is where it belongs on the axle, sometimes
> on the convouluted boots that are quite stiff they will extend too far
> towards the middle of the shaft. Proper size hose clamp will work on the
> small end, but not the large end if you do not have a banding tool at your
> disposal. If you just wanted to have one in your tool box, NAPA stores still
> carried them the last time I looked. I think they cost around $27.00 if I
> remember right.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Larry <weidnerl@wwt.net> wrote:
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> > Wayne wrote on Thu, 26 May 2011 21:22
> > > I am replacing an outer axle boot. I think I remember someone on this
> > forum saying not to band the little end. Is this correct and why.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> >
> > I used a heater hose clamp on the little end. Works for me...6 years now.
> > Just gotta be careful that you don't over-tighten. Just my relatively
> > informed, off the cuff, back yard mecahnic, gut level, eyeball it up and
> > guestimate, way of doing things....that's all...
> > --
> > Larry :)
> > 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
> > Menomonie, WI.
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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I tried using a larger hose clamp on the big end and found that the screw
portion of it hit... something ... don't remember what,,,I just looked and it
won't clear the top nut on the ball joint, lower A frame. So I had to use a
band. Double banding has been encouraged here, but mine have been single banded
for 6 yrs with no problem. I think if you get the boot contact point on the axle
squeaky clean, it has a better chance of staying and not slipping off. Just
what I think...
--
Larry :)
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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