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NEW (?) Transmission [message #124297] Mon, 02 May 2011 18:32 Go to next message
carguy is currently offline  carguy   United States
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I recently got a call from a man who has a new GMC transmission for sale. The story is that his dad bought this for his GMC and never installed it. His dad has passed, the GMC is sold, and the tranny is left.

My questions are is it a GMC motorhome transmission and what is it worth?

Photos at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=39019&title=new3f-transmission-for-sale&cat=4297

or http://snipurl.com/27rhrt


Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
Coshocton OH
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Re: NEW (?) Transmission [message #124303 is a reply to message #124297] Mon, 02 May 2011 18:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GeorgeRud is currently offline  GeorgeRud   United States
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It certainly looks like one (the three bolt torque converter). It would be a nice find if it is.

Don't know what it would be worth, but I thought a rebuilt Manny tranny was about $700 (if my memory serves) plus your core transmission???????????


George Rudawsky
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Re: [GMCnet] NEW (?) Transmission [message #124306 is a reply to message #124297] Mon, 02 May 2011 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Greenberg is currently offline  David Greenberg   United States
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After production shut down GM T & C sold a huge inventory to 2 companies.
http://www.bdub.net/publications/TransmissionOffer/TrannyOffer4.html The
Tranny/final drive sold for about $475-495 but I think later the price was
dropped to $275 for the tranny

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Bill Brown <carguybill@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>
> I recently got a call from a man who has a new GMC transmission for sale.
> The story is that his dad bought this for his GMC and never installed it.
> His dad has passed, the GMC is sold, and the tranny is left.
>
> My questions are is it a GMC motorhome transmission and what is it worth?
>
> Photos at
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=39019&title=new3f-transmission-for-sale&cat=4297
>
> or http://snipurl.com/27rhrt
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Re: [GMCnet] NEW (?) Transmission [message #124338 is a reply to message #124297] Tue, 03 May 2011 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Billy Massey is currently offline  Billy Massey   United States
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According to:
http://gmcmotorhome.info/SWITCH.html it looks like it's the real deal.

GMC MOTORHOME GM(DATE) ie GM77
1974-78 ELDORADO, exc E.F.I. AJ
1975-78 ELDORADO, W/EFI AK
1974-78 TORONADO OJ
1974-77 TORONADO OM

Found with the Rollyo search at www.bdub.net/GMCLinks.html

bdub


On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Bill Brown <carguybill@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I recently got a call from a man who has a new GMC transmission for sale.  The story is that his dad bought this for his GMC and never installed it.  His dad has passed, the GMC is sold, and the tranny is left.
>
> My questions are is it a GMC motorhome transmission and what is it worth?
>
> Photos at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=39019&title=new3f-transmission-for-sale&cat=4297
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Re: NEW (?) Transmission [message #124341 is a reply to message #124297] Tue, 03 May 2011 05:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   Malaysia
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Yeah, the "GM" tag would mean a motorhome tranny. I wouldn't think it would be wise using it without cracking it and at least inspecting the innards. The surface rust may indicate rust internally if it got wet.

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Re: [GMCnet] NEW (?) Transmission [message #124342 is a reply to message #124338] Tue, 03 May 2011 05:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Coincidentally, I am in a similar situation. The previous owner of my coach has a NOS GMC transmission leftover from the original owner who bought it as a spare.

I still haven't picked it up yet, as I would need to rent a truck and find someone to assist lifting it. And, I'm wondering how worthwhile it would be, given the perceived value of the transmission. Also, what is the consensus on its viability after sitting in storage for 30 years? I'm wondering if the valve body might need some work, or ???

The original 37,000 mile transmission in the Kingsley is starting to get balky when cold ( perfect when warm ), so if this NOS unit might be viable, I want to have it in stock.


Pete Smay
Long Beach, CA
1977 Kingsley

[Updated on: Tue, 03 May 2011 05:27]

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Re: [GMCnet] NEW (?) Transmission [message #124354 is a reply to message #124342] Tue, 03 May 2011 07:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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IMHO, a NOS transmission is definitely worth several hundred dollars if not
damaged or waterlogged. Even if one subscribes to the controversial idea
that the seals have deteriorated from age, all of the hard parts should be
unaffected. A kit of all the soft parts shouldn't cost much over $50.
Installation of those would yield a transmission un-equalled in quality by
any overhaul short of Manny's complete re-manufacturing.

Ken H.


On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Pete <peteinlb@aol.com> wrote:

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>
> Coincidentally, I am in a similar situation. The previous owner of my
> coach has a NOS GMC transmission leftover from the original owner who bought
> it as a spare.
>
> I still haven't picked it up yet, as I would need to rent a truck and find
> someone to assist lifting it. And, I'm wondering how worthwhile it would
> be, given the perceived value of the transmission. Also, what is the
> consensus on its viability after sitting in storage for 30 years? I'm
> wondering if the valve body might need some work, or ???
>
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Re: NEW (?) Transmission [message #124364 is a reply to message #124297] Tue, 03 May 2011 09:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
carguy is currently offline  carguy   United States
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The owner wants $500 for it. Too rich for me to just put on the shelf. He is planning to put it on e-Bay. If anybody here wants it contact me direct and I'll give you his contact information.

Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
Coshocton OH
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Re: [GMCnet] NEW (?) Transmission [message #124435 is a reply to message #124364] Tue, 03 May 2011 15:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Bill,

Let him put it on e-Bay and the "market" will determine the value.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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The owner wants $500 for it. Too rich for me to just put on the shelf. He
is planning to put it on e-Bay. If anybody here wants it contact me direct
and I'll give you his contact information.
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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: NEW (?) Transmission [message #124507 is a reply to message #124297] Tue, 03 May 2011 21:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The only potential issue I could think of is the risk of it being equipped with one of the defective transfer case chains I heard about that were not properly "pre-stretched", which contributed to a rash of repeated failures, being the primary single point of potential failure. I learned about this from a former owner of a stretch coach whose misery went through two broken chains from three different transmissions. I hope I got that info right. Unfortunately, he did not offer particulars.

Does anyone have any hard facts on this?

In addition, for the 32' stretch, I paid $1,850 for a reinforced "Manny Tranny" from JB (parts only, including new convertor). He installs his self-developed billet steel input/output bearing supports that make the original design look like product liability-grade engineering. The cost of a good transmission baseline to work from is cheap; the complete nature of an unused original transmission make the value very high in my humble opinion. Did you offer the owner $275? Explaining that the unit must be rebuilt just to replace the expendable parts might help - even the speedo & governor gears.


Mark Scoble, Lunenburg, MA - 1973 23' Palm Beach Stretched to 32' and in residence at the GMC Co-Op in Orlando, FL

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Re: [GMCnet] NEW (?) Transmission [message #124540 is a reply to message #124364] Wed, 04 May 2011 07:46 Go to previous message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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IHMO that is a good investment in the coaches future. Foolish not to buy it
simply because you will be needing a new one sooner, or later. Grab it.

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Bill Brown <carguybill@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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> The owner wants $500 for it. Too rich for me to just put on the shelf. He
> is planning to put it on e-Bay. If anybody here wants it contact me direct
> and I'll give you his contact information.
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