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| ACRYLIC REPLACEMENT FOR GLASS [message #123896] |
Fri, 29 April 2011 22:46  |
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jaholland
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'Quebec Gord' has transported his GMC to his home
and is anticipating Some Serious Weight Reduction ~
'Hardie Johnson' raised the question of an acrylic
replacement for the rear glass window ~
Since my upper drivers and rear windows were pulverized
by wednesdays tornado, I am going to replace them both
next week ~
I Now Ask For Your Input Regarding Acrylic, Plexiglas Or
Any Other Type Of Replacment for the heavy glass ~
SUGGESTIONS PLEEZEE
~ Joe ~
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| Re: ACRYLIC REPLACEMENT FOR GLASS [message #123937 is a reply to message #123896] |
Sat, 30 April 2011 11:48  |
Larry C
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Sir. Plexiglas is GREAT for aemergency replacement but I don't think it would work for a large space as it is flexible and will scratch. You probably could work out the flex by going thicker but the scratching problem will always exist. Mere cleaning with the cloth can scratch if you don't use enough liquid cleaner and I shudder at what the taggers do when they know a plastic window is handy.... storage would be a problem because the taggers will find it.
My suggestion, if you have the resources, would be to get the new windows with the bottom slider screens, I think the slider is about 9" high so half the window would open up. This offers many opportunities
You have an unobstruted view if you have no overhead cabinet.
The smaller ventilation port tends to keep pooch or cat inside
now, some have reported that ventilation is hampered by the smaller opening, I would get a fan, and they come with a small solar panel for the fan only, and either put it in a roof hatch or just hang in on the window to pull in or push out air.
If the budget is not there, and if you just lived through a terrible event, you probably can't go looking for new just yet, see if Jim B or Ken K has any used windows, I think they install the new ones all the time.
My thoughts, sorry to hear about the destruction, good luck
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| Re: [GMCnet] ACRYLIC REPLACEMENT FOR GLASS [message #123945 is a reply to message #123937] |
Sat, 30 April 2011 13:09 |
Kingsley Coach
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Plex will yellow in sunlight ...I don't know if non yellowing has been
invented yet.
Never use 'windex' or similar commercial cleaning products on any acrylic
sheet, rod, or tube..
If you have any luck getting a piece of Plexiglas, a trade name, in the
upper drivers window Do take a picture. There may be a better upper window
for paying tolls on the 95 yet! <g>
Mike in NS
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Larry <slawrence111@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Sir. Plexiglas is GREAT for aemergency replacement but I don't think it
> would work for a large space as it is flexible and will scratch. You
> probably could work out the flex by going thicker but the scratching problem
> will always exist. Mere cleaning with the cloth can scratch if you don't
> use enough liquid cleaner and I shudder at what the taggers do when they
> know a plastic window is handy.... storage would be a problem because the
> taggers will find it.
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> My suggestion, if you have the resources, would be to get the new windows
> with the bottom slider screens, I think the slider is about 9" high so half
> the window would open up. This offers many opportunities
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> You have an unobstruted view if you have no overhead cabinet.
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> The smaller ventilation port tends to keep pooch or cat inside
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> now, some have reported that ventilation is hampered by the smaller
> opening, I would get a fan, and they come with a small solar panel for the
> fan only, and either put it in a roof hatch or just hang in on the window to
> pull in or push out air.
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> If the budget is not there, and if you just lived through a terrible event,
> you probably can't go looking for new just yet, see if Jim B or Ken K has
> any used windows, I think they install the new ones all the time.
>
> My thoughts, sorry to hear about the destruction, good luck
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> 74 GLACIER X, 260
> 455/APC/4 bagg'r(ver3)
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| Re: ACRYLIC REPLACEMENT FOR GLASS [message #123961 is a reply to message #123896] |
Sat, 30 April 2011 15:51 |
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mike miller
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| bishop1 wrote on Fri, 29 April 2011 20:46 |
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'Hardie Johnson' raised the question of an acrylic
replacement for the rear glass window ~
Since my upper drivers and rear windows were pulverized
by wednesdays tornado, I am going to replace them both
next week ~
I Now Ask For Your Input Regarding Acrylic, Plexiglas Or
Any Other Type Of Replacment for the heavy glass...
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I looked at a Birch that had a plastic rear window. (I do not know what kind of plastic.) I did NOT like the way it looked. It looked dirty even when clean, and cheap... and most plastic that size isn't very cheap!
I also did not like the way it was fastened in. The way they did it would make it hard to use as a emergency exit.
I would stick with glass or go to a pop-out fiberglass panel.... if I do not need the window.
Hmmm.... You Know, my rear bath Birchaven doesn't REALLY need a full picture window in the bathroom!
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] ACRYLIC REPLACEMENT FOR GLASS [message #123970 is a reply to message #123963] |
Sat, 30 April 2011 17:00 |
gmcrv1
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Emery,
You are probably correct. We have been replacing the illuminated red bands
around the tops of all the Burger Kings in the mid south area - roughly 50
some locations (all owned by one guy) and the new red plastic is marked on
one side "This side is UV treated and must face out". I am not sure if it
is Lexan or Plex, but it comes tightly rolled in 50' lengths. I don't think
Plex can be rolled in as small a diameter as the Lexan. At the same time,
we are removing all the old fluorescent lamps and ballast and replacing them
with LEDs. Significant savings on the electric bills.
Thanks for the correction.
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
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> On Apr 30, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Tom Eckert wrote:
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> > I would strongly recommend using Lexan or other polycarbonate.
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> > Make sure you get UV treated Lexan. One side will be treated and that
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> > should face the outside of the coach.
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> > Good Luck,
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> > Tom Eckert N2VWN
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> Ton-- they treat glass with a coating that blocks UV but to the best of my
> knowledge all polycarbonate blocks UV rays.
> Polycarbonate is almost completely transparent throughout the entire
> visible region until 400 nm thereby completely blocking UV light.
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> I used to sell a lot of glass of all kinds, polycarbonate panels and
> plexiglas (acrylic) panels when I owned a window / door distributorship
> several years ago and I don't think that the physical properties of
> polycarbonate have changed.
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> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Santa Fe, NM
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| Re: ACRYLIC REPLACEMENT FOR GLASS [message #124076 is a reply to message #123995] |
Sun, 01 May 2011 11:18 |
Larry C
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Gord,
they sell a fiberglas replacement for the rear window. Its already made. Same place that has the Midnight Express stored, or whats left of it....
I cant think of their name but they deal with GMC's at the ralleys too.
My Nickle
Gatsbys' CRUISER 08-18-04
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| Re: [GMCnet] ACRYLIC REPLACEMENT FOR GLASS [message #124111 is a reply to message #124091] |
Sun, 01 May 2011 16:55 |
tphipps
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I have heard that the top or upper window on both the drivers side and passenger side is available only from another donor GMC. Something about the curve in three directions. This has become a rare spare. Suggest mike in Houston as prime source.
Good luck,
Tom Phipps, 14days to gmc
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
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| Re: [GMCnet] ACRYLIC REPLACEMENT FOR GLASS [message #124129 is a reply to message #124124] |
Sun, 01 May 2011 19:51 |
emerystora
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You really should use Lexan (polycarbonate) instead of plexiglas (acrylic). It will not yellow over time like plexiglas will and it will not crack or break easily as plexiglas will.
You can curve it the same way as you do plexiglas.
Emery Stora
On May 1, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Gord H wrote:
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> Mike, I was just on the phone with my father discussing this - he has successfully done compound curves in plexiglass using a room heater held a few inches away from the plexi, while it's lying on top of the original glass (using it as the mold). He said if he was to do it again, he'd use a heat gun (maybe heat guns), and mentioned it only takes patience. The plexi will eventually fall in to shape with no effort at all.
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> I can't remember the temp, but I once did similar in <ahem> my mother's oven - a smaller fairing windscreen for a motorbike on to a plaster mold. Of course I didn't have a glass one to mold from, but personally I'd think if original glass was well supported in an oven, plexi layed on top of it and temp increased slowly (and watched carefully), I bet it would work - or at least be worth a try. :)
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> "Oh just baking cookies - nothing to see here!" :lol:
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> Gord ;)
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| Re: ACRYLIC REPLACEMENT FOR GLASS [message #124143 is a reply to message #123896] |
Sun, 01 May 2011 20:31 |
George Beckman
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| bishop1 wrote on Fri, 29 April 2011 20:46 |
'Quebec Gord' has transported his GMC to his home
and is anticipating Some Serious Weight Reduction ~
I Now Ask For Your Input Regarding Acrylic, Plexiglas Or
Any Other Type Of Replacment for the heavy glass ~
SUGGESTIONS PLEEZEE
~ Joe ~
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Our coach had a "plexiglass" replacement for back rear slider on the driver's side . I will say this; they did a nice match on matching the tint. The real glass has a slight curve. The plexiglass had begun to curve the wrong way. It didn't slide worth beans. I also had a fear that a gust from a truck would suck it out. I found a salvage slider and am a much happier guy. I don't know how long it had been on the coach, but we had it two years before replacing the pane. It was not too scratched. Of course there is a screen and I was careful when I washed it.
'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
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