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pbrownsd is currently offline  pbrownsd   United States
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I'm fairly new to the motorhome lifestyle and so are my folks who recently bought a 40' SOB. They have described a couple of incidences where they felt vulnerable in their RV and have considered purchasing a handgun. Our family isn't necessarily anti-gun, but none of us have owned guns. I'm feeling pretty conflicted about the whole thing as I have grade-school and teenagers that could be at risk if there were a gun around. On the other hand, if Rv'ers are potential targets, I want at least a deterent.

My gut feeling is I don't want one, but don't want to be nieve to the risk either.


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Re: Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123723 is a reply to message #123716] Thu, 28 April 2011 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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...folding stock shotgun...I dont look for violence...but IF it comes along...I'm going to win.
Re: Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123724 is a reply to message #123716] Thu, 28 April 2011 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pbrownsd wrote on Thu, 28 April 2011 18:06

... they felt vulnerable in their RV and have considered purchasing a handgun. ...

... I have grade-school and teenagers that could be at risk if there were a gun around. On the other hand, if Rv'ers are potential targets, I want at least a deterent.

My gut feeling is I don't want one, but don't want to be nieve to the risk either.


As a Primary Marksmanship Instructor, I taught Marine recruits how to shoot. I have never felt the need to own a fire arm, but understand the needs of many who do. Most school age kids can be taught firearm safety. If they understand what a firearm can and can not do, they will treat them with the respect they deserve.

With out the proper training for everyone in the house, I wouldn't have both the gun and the ammo in the house.

I have a slight attraction to cap and ball revolvers... but not for home protection.


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My 2 cents says... nope.

Get better insurance on the SOB. Somebody wants it or anything within, hand 'em the keys and walk away.

One thing about guns - if you have one you'd better be prepared to use it (or so I'm told). I don't think that's something I could live with, let alone the dangers if there's youngsters around...yeesh.

Believe it or not, there's more guns per capita in Canada than in the US...I don't happen to own one.

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Gord
Re: Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123726 is a reply to message #123716] Thu, 28 April 2011 20:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A gun is a personal choice. If you chose to have a gun you must also train anyone who has access to it in it's proper use. You also need to properly store it with a trigger lock or in a safe so that it cannot be accessed by someone that does not understand how to use it properly.


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Re: Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123730 is a reply to message #123724] Thu, 28 April 2011 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mike miller wrote on Thu, 28 April 2011 20:21

Most school age kids can be taught firearm safety. If they understand what a firearm can and can not do, they will treat them with the respect they deserve.



From the time I was seven years old I knew my dad kept a loaded 12 gauge shotgun in his closet and a 6" 357 revolver in his dresser drawer. Neither was locked and neither had trigger locks. He did however instruct me on how to use them and taught me respect for them.

36 years later those same guns are in the same places and to this day I've never touched them. Not because I'm afraid of them but because I was taught to respect them.


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Re: Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123731 is a reply to message #123716] Thu, 28 April 2011 20:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I believe strongly in a persons right to protect themselves and I take the FAR FAR right view on the second amendment.

But i don't own a gun.

The statistics say that guns acquired for protection are much more likely to kill a member of your family than an intruder.

I've traveled all over the country, under all conditions, i've encountered strange and freaky people but I've never felt threatened enough to want the hassle of worrying about a gun.

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Re: [GMCnet] Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123732 is a reply to message #123726] Thu, 28 April 2011 20:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We grew up with an unlocked gun cabinet and no trigger locks. Three
children, left to our own devices in the summer time to roam 60 acres
out in the country, none of us older than 12, 8 and 6. The idea of
messing with Dad's guns... he would have beaten our asses but good.

But that was a different world back then.Us Gen-Xers look down on the
Millieanals as a bunch of wusses. I'd hate to think what the Greatest
Generation thinks of us youngsters....

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> A gun is a personal choice.  If you chose to have a gun you must also train anyone who has access to it in it's proper use.  You also need to properly store it with a trigger lock or in a safe so that it cannot be accessed by someone that does not understand how to use it properly.
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Re: [GMCnet] Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123733 is a reply to message #123716] Thu, 28 April 2011 20:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Apr 28, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Pete wrote:

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> I'm fairly new to the motorhome lifestyle and so are my folks who recently bought a 40' SOB. They have described a couple of incidences where they felt vulnerable in their RV and have considered purchasing a handgun. Our family isn't necessarily anti-gun, but none of us have owned guns. I'm feeling pretty conflicted about the whole thing as I have grade-school and teenagers that could be at risk if there were a gun around. On the other hand, if Rv'ers are potential targets, I want at least a deterent.
>
> My gut feeling is I don't want one, but don't want to be nieve to the risk either.
> --
> 1976 Glenbrook
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> Hayden, ID

There is nothing as recognizable and as fearsome to an intruder as a 12 gauge pump shotgun racheting a shell into the chamber.

Emery Stora
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Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123734 is a reply to message #123725] Thu, 28 April 2011 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Apr 28, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Gord H wrote:

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> My 2 cents says... nope.
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> Get better insurance on the SOB. Somebody wants it or anything within, hand 'em the keys and walk away.



There was a couple in an RV in New Mexico a couple of months ago that weren't given the chance to walk away. Their burnt up bodies were found in their burnt up RV. They caught the people that did it. They were escapees from a prison in Arizona.

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Re: [GMCnet] Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123735 is a reply to message #123726] Thu, 28 April 2011 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was at a rally at Mt. Hood a few years ago and we were sitting around a campfire talking. Darren Paget, who was from Canada, said "I bet that most of you probably have a gun in your motorhome". One of the ladies said "you are wrong -- Bud has his and I have mine". About 3/4 of the people around the fire said that they carried a gun in their GMC.

On Apr 28, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Ken Wolkens wrote:

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> A gun is a personal choice. If you chose to have a gun you must also train anyone who has access to it in it's proper use. You also need to properly store it with a trigger lock or in a safe so that it cannot be accessed by someone that does not understand how to use it properly.
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Re: [GMCnet] Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123736 is a reply to message #123716] Thu, 28 April 2011 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just my 2 cents...
Don't get a gun, unless you feel like you could use a gun. If you are afraid of it, or afraid of using it, you have just given your attacker a gun to use on you.
That being said, a gun is a tool. Just like any tool, you must learn how to use it correctly. Practice frequently so you can use your tool correctly. Learn what it is capable of, and become comfortable with how it works.
I know there are those who will disagree, and I respect their opinion. This is just my feelings on the matter, take it for what it's worth.

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Re: Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123737 is a reply to message #123716] Thu, 28 April 2011 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a permit my wife has a permit and my 2 daughters have permits. I carry all the time.We have been around hunting all our lives and all has had hunter saftey courses. It is a personal choice but i would rather carry one and not need it than need it and not have one. We did take the time and have NRA training.
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Re: [GMCnet] Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123738 is a reply to message #123734] Thu, 28 April 2011 20:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harry is currently offline  Harry   Canada
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If you are coming to Canada in an RV or car, declare any weapons. If you deny the fact that you have guns and the Customs guy finds any, you will never see your RV again.
You can leave your guns at the border and pick them up on your way out or you can mail them home.
There may be more guns per capita up here but they would be long guns not hand guns.
Re: [GMCnet] Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123740 is a reply to message #123734] Thu, 28 April 2011 20:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That murdered couple was from a town about 10 miles from me.
The husband was a ham oprerator and member of a local club.
Surviving family members are suing the state and the private
operators of the prison for the VERY lax security. The killers
and accomplice were all captured fairly quickly.

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> From: emerystora@mac.com
> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:35:58 -0600
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> There was a couple in an RV in New Mexico a couple of months ago that weren't given the chance to walk away. Their burnt up bodies were found in their burnt up RV. They caught the people that did it. They were escapees from a prison in Arizona.
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Re: [GMCnet] Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123742 is a reply to message #123733] Thu, 28 April 2011 20:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And just behind the sound of that shotgun racking a shell is the quite
similar sound of a Colt .45 semi-auto pistol in the same action!

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> From: emerystora@mac.com
> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:33:53 -0600
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
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> On Apr 28, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Pete wrote:
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> >
> >
> > I'm fairly new to the motorhome lifestyle and so are my folks who recently bought a 40' SOB. They have described a couple of incidences where they felt vulnerable in their RV and have considered purchasing a handgun. Our family isn't necessarily anti-gun, but none of us have owned guns. I'm feeling pretty conflicted about the whole thing as I have grade-school and teenagers that could be at risk if there were a gun around. On the other hand, if Rv'ers are potential targets, I want at least a deterent.
> >
> > My gut feeling is I don't want one, but don't want to be nieve to the risk either.
> > --
> > 1976 Glenbrook
> >
> > Hayden, ID
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> There is nothing as recognizable and as fearsome to an intruder as a 12 gauge pump shotgun racheting a shell into the chamber.
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> 77 Kingsley
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Re: Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123743 is a reply to message #123737] Thu, 28 April 2011 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Personnally, I favor Tasors, but they don't really have a lot of opportunity to save the day, except for the cops who have you against the car anyway. I watch those COPS shows, those tasers knock em down.

Guns are getting real serious. Too many politicians have forgotton that this country developed with guns. today they know where every gun is and if you dare use it, you are likely to go to jail, not the criminal.

Wasn't there a recent discussion about this and someone piped in there and sang about the holy benefits of WASP SPRAY. the kind that shoots about 20 foot stream;..... for the Wasps... Simple, easy, legal, for the wasps.... blinding, painful but not permanent.... for the wasps. When camping, don't leave home without it.... for the wasps....

As I recall.....



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Re: Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123747 is a reply to message #123716] Thu, 28 April 2011 21:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rather than a gun you might consider a can or two of wasp spray kept in handy places. That stuff will shoot 20-30 feet and raise all kinds of hell with the person on the other end.

Glenn


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Re: Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123749 is a reply to message #123747] Thu, 28 April 2011 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BUY THE GUN(S); LEARN TO USE IT(THEM) PROPERLY.
You won't regret it.


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Re: [GMCnet] Ever felt the need for a gun? [message #123751 is a reply to message #123716] Thu, 28 April 2011 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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It's been quite a while since I had to help circle the RVs and defend myself
from an Indian attack.

I own a gun. It's in the closet. The ammo is outside.

Since we tend to stay at KOA campgrounds, state parks and the various Camp
Walmarts distributed throughout the US we don't worry about break-ins, etc.
The smart thing to do is park with the door toward the entrance of a store
when at Walmart or else point toward a video camera.

I'd suggest your parents get a motion-sensitive light for the porch light if
they feel some concern. Also, tell them to park on the good side of the
tracks.

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Pete wrote:

>
>
> I'm fairly new to the motorhome lifestyle and so are my folks who recently
> bought a 40' SOB. They have described a couple of incidences where they felt
> vulnerable in their RV and have considered purchasing a handgun. Our family
> isn't necessarily anti-gun, but none of us have owned guns. I'm feeling
> pretty conflicted about the whole thing as I have grade-school and teenagers
> that could be at risk if there were a gun around. On the other hand, if Rv'ers
> are potential targets, I want at least a deterent.
>
> My gut feeling is I don't want one, but don't want to be nieve to the risk
> either.


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