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Mon, 25 April 2011 14:32  |
Robin Hood
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I talked to two tow guys. Both said it would cost around 500 dollars
to put the GMC (if I buy it) up on a landoll trailer and take it to
the RV place. (One of them suggested I call the RV place first and
make sure they were okay with brinigng a piece of old junk to work
on... the tow guy said that people had a tendancy to abandon them, and
he'd get called to get rid of them). The RV place's preferred tow guy
said that if it could be towed, it would only be 350 dollars or so.
These are ballpark estimates they gave me, just for purposes of
deciding whether I ant to buy the RV in the barn.
Can a GMC be towed instead of using a trailer?
Robin
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| Re: [GMCnet] Towing vs Trailering [message #123125 is a reply to message #123121] |
Mon, 25 April 2011 14:47  |
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Easy answer is not really. Gmc manual says 30 miles, at under 30 mph. Transmission is at risk. Landfill is best, front wheels and air bags all the way up works.
Good luck,
Tom Phipps, 21 days to GMC
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| Re: [GMCnet] Towing vs Trailering [message #123127 is a reply to message #123125] |
Mon, 25 April 2011 14:54 |
Robin Hood
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I mean, what if they take the front wheels off the ground? Not
flat-towing. Sorry, i should have specified.
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> Easy answer is not really. Gmc manual says 30 miles, at under 30 mph. Transmission is at risk. Landfill is best, front wheels and air bags all the way up works.
> Good luck,
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| Re: [GMCnet] Towing vs Trailering [message #123129 is a reply to message #123127] |
Mon, 25 April 2011 14:58 |
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Yes, with a wheel lift truck, but you still need good rear tires and preferably the air bags fully inflated (maximum height). For a short distance an emergency bar could be used in lieu of the air bags.
I can also understand why an rv dealer might be reluctant to accept such a "delivery". How far to your Mom's driveway?
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I mean, what if they take the front wheels off the ground? Not
lat-towing. Sorry, i should have specified.
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Thomas Phipps <tph1pp5@yahoo.com> wrote:
Easy answer is not really. Gmc manual says 30 miles, at under 30 mph.
Transmission is at risk. Landfill is best, front wheels and air bags all the
ay up works.
Good luck,
Tom Phipps, 21 days to GMC
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| Re: [GMCnet] Towing vs Trailering [message #123132 is a reply to message #123121] |
Mon, 25 April 2011 15:09 |
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| Robin Hood wrote on Mon, 25 April 2011 14:32 |
I talked to two tow guys. Both said it would cost around 500 dollars
to put the GMC (if I buy it) up on a landoll trailer and take it to
the RV place. (One of them suggested I call the RV place first and
make sure they were okay with brinigng a piece of old junk to work
on... the tow guy said that people had a tendancy to abandon them, and
he'd get called to get rid of them). The RV place's preferred tow guy
said that if it could be towed, it would only be 350 dollars or so.
These are ballpark estimates they gave me, just for purposes of
deciding whether I ant to buy the RV in the barn.
Can a GMC be towed instead of using a trailer?
Robin
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Robin,
I should add, if you buy this coach, I suggest you spend the extra $150 for the Landoll. No telling what condition the other rear suspension components are in and what damage might be avoided using the trailer versus a tow.
That is what I would want to do.
Dennis
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| Re: [GMCnet] Towing vs Trailering [message #123133 is a reply to message #123129] |
Mon, 25 April 2011 15:06 |
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Not far, actually, but Mom would probably have a stroke. :)
Worst case scenario I can have it towed to my house on the other side
of town and do the belts and hoses myself.
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Dennis S <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
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> Yes, with a wheel lift truck, but you still need good rear tires and preferably the air bags fully inflated (maximum height). For a short distance an emergency bar could be used in lieu of the air bags.
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> I can also understand why an rv dealer might be reluctant to accept such a "delivery". How far to your Mom's driveway?
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Towing vs Trailering
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> I mean, what if they take the front wheels off the ground? Not
> lat-towing. Sorry, i should have specified.
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Thomas Phipps <tph1pp5@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Easy answer is not really. Gmc manual says 30 miles, at under 30 mph.
> Transmission is at risk. Landfill is best, front wheels and air bags all the
> ay up works.
> Good luck,
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| Re: [GMCnet] Towing vs Trailering [message #123134 is a reply to message #123133] |
Mon, 25 April 2011 15:14 |
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| Robin Hood wrote on Mon, 25 April 2011 15:06 |
Not far, actually, but Mom would probably have a stroke. 
Worst case scenario I can have it towed to my house on the other side
of town and do the belts and hoses myself.
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Dennis S <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
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> Yes, with a wheel lift truck, but you still need good rear tires and preferably the air bags fully inflated (maximum height). For a short distance an emergency bar could be used in lieu of the air bags.
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> I can also understand why an rv dealer might be reluctant to accept such a "delivery". How far to your Mom's driveway?
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Robin,
Belts and hoses are really trivial compared to all the other things you would need to do before attempting to start this beast and especially before putting it on the road.
Somewhere is a guide to restarting an engine after it has been sitting for some time... very worthwhile read.
Dennis
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| Re: [GMCnet] Towing vs Trailering [message #123151 is a reply to message #123121] |
Mon, 25 April 2011 18:26 |
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Honestly... if it's that much of a sleeper and hasn't been run in a while, the $150 extra for the landoll is going to be one of your lowest expenses getting it back on the road, and a pretty good one. I've been towed with a wheel lift and it's fine if there are very few bumps and good rear tires and airbags. I've been winched on and off a landoll when I lost a rear wheel and it's a much better way to go if you are at all afraid of the rear suspension.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
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| Re: [GMCnet] Towing vs Trailering [message #123157 is a reply to message #123151] |
Mon, 25 April 2011 19:36 |
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Funny, I can't seem to find a Robin Hood in Jackson, MS...You must go by
another name??
Mike in NS
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Jeremy <jtknezek@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Honestly... if it's that much of a sleeper and hasn't been run in a while,
> the $150 extra for the landoll is going to be one of your lowest expenses
> getting it back on the road, and a pretty good one. I've been towed with a
> wheel lift and it's fine if there are very few bumps and good rear tires and
> airbags. I've been winched on and off a landoll when I lost a rear wheel and
> it's a much better way to go if you are at all afraid of the rear
> suspension.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Towing vs Trailering [message #123166 is a reply to message #123157] |
Mon, 25 April 2011 20:09 |
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Nope, that's me. Go to msbar.org and you can look me up in the
attorney directory. :) Or QRZ under W5LOX.
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> Funny, I can't seem to find a Robin Hood in Jackson, MS...You must go by
> another name??
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> Mike in NS
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> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Jeremy <jtknezek@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Honestly... if it's that much of a sleeper and hasn't been run in a while,
>> the $150 extra for the landoll is going to be one of your lowest expenses
>> getting it back on the road, and a pretty good one. I've been towed with a
>> wheel lift and it's fine if there are very few bumps and good rear tires and
>> airbags. I've been winched on and off a landoll when I lost a rear wheel and
>> it's a much better way to go if you are at all afraid of the rear
>> suspension.
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Jeremy Knezek
>> 1976 Glenbrook
>> Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Towing vs Trailering [message #123195 is a reply to message #123121] |
Mon, 25 April 2011 22:06 |
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| Robin Hood wrote on Mon, 25 April 2011 12:32 |
I talked to two tow guys. Both said it would cost around 500 dollars
to put the GMC (if I buy it) up on a landoll trailer and take it to
the RV place. (One of them suggested I call the RV place first and
make sure they were okay with brinigng a piece of old junk to work
on...
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Back when I suggested the $500 offer I DID say the transportation was going to be more than the price of the coach.
RV place? -- If you are going to pay someone to work on THIS coach... forget buying it.
Even without paying for labor, there are rolling coaches that sell for the price of getting this coach "rolling". If you have to pay labor...
If not trailered, it will need good rear tires. I would rather get it home and running before buying new tires. (They age out before most of us will wear them out.)
If you buy it, transport it properly.
Good luck.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Re: [GMCnet] Towing vs Trailering [message #123198 is a reply to message #123195] |
Mon, 25 April 2011 22:18 |
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Yes, that's pretty much the plan. The RV place really REALLY doesn't
want to work on something in this kind of shape (I don't blame them)
and I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and change out the belts
and hoses myself. It's not a job I've done before, but I reckon I"m up
to it.
*IF* I buy it (instead of some other coach in much better shape) I'll
have it trailered to some place where I can work on it. Mom will
stroke out if I attempt to work on it in her side yard. My house... I
don't think a Landoll could get through my neighborhood, certainly not
down my tiny townhome driveway. I need to find a storage place that is
okay with me working on it on-site. Again, that is IF I buy it. There
are perfectly drivable coaches for 4 and 5 grand out there right now.
But this one has a really nice body, dual roof ACs and a roof storage
pod, and is low mileage (66k is low mileage, right?)...
Fate will decide. :)
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> Robin Hood wrote on Mon, 25 April 2011 12:32
>> I talked to two tow guys. Both said it would cost around 500 dollars
>> to put the GMC (if I buy it) up on a landoll trailer and take it to
>> the RV place. (One of them suggested I call the RV place first and
>> make sure they were okay with brinigng a piece of old junk to work
>> on...
>
>
> Back when I suggested the $500 offer I DID say the transportation was going to be more than the price of the coach.
>
> RV place? -- If you are going to pay someone to work on THIS coach... forget buying it.
>
> Even without paying for labor, there are rolling coaches that sell for the price of getting this coach "rolling". If you have to pay labor...
>
> If not trailered, it will need good rear tires. I would rather get it home and running before buying new tires. (They age out before most of us will wear them out.)
>
> If you buy it, transport it properly.
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> Good luck.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Towing vs Trailering [message #123204 is a reply to message #123198] |
Mon, 25 April 2011 22:30 |
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Robin,
If you do get the coach, don't be too concerned about belts and hoses. They
are pretty routine. It seems the less experience one has with these GMC's
the more the community is willing to help. It's a great group and they will
make you feel comfortable and give you the confidence to do things you
probably would not have even considered in the past.
We're battening down the hatches for the big storm heading through Memphis
in a few minutes.
Good Luck,
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Robin Hood <loxley@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, that's pretty much the plan. The RV place really REALLY doesn't
> want to work on something in this kind of shape (I don't blame them)
> and I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and change out the belts
> and hoses myself. It's not a job I've done before, but I reckon I"m up
> to it.
>
> *IF* I buy it (instead of some other coach in much better shape) I'll
> have it trailered to some place where I can work on it. Mom will
> stroke out if I attempt to work on it in her side yard. My house... I
> don't think a Landoll could get through my neighborhood, certainly not
> down my tiny townhome driveway. I need to find a storage place that is
> okay with me working on it on-site. Again, that is IF I buy it. There
> are perfectly drivable coaches for 4 and 5 grand out there right now.
>
> But this one has a really nice body, dual roof ACs and a roof storage
> pod, and is low mileage (66k is low mileage, right?)...
>
> Fate will decide. :)
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >
> > Robin Hood wrote on Mon, 25 April 2011 12:32
> >> I talked to two tow guys. Both said it would cost around 500 dollars
> >> to put the GMC (if I buy it) up on a landoll trailer and take it to
> >> the RV place. (One of them suggested I call the RV place first and
> >> make sure they were okay with brinigng a piece of old junk to work
> >> on...
> >
> >
> > Back when I suggested the $500 offer I DID say the transportation was
> going to be more than the price of the coach.
> >
> > RV place? -- If you are going to pay someone to work on THIS coach...
> forget buying it.
> >
> > Even without paying for labor, there are rolling coaches that sell for
> the price of getting this coach "rolling". If you have to pay labor...
> >
> > If not trailered, it will need good rear tires. I would rather get it
> home and running before buying new tires. (They age out before most of us
> will wear them out.)
> >
> > If you buy it, transport it properly.
> >
> > Good luck.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Towing vs Trailering [message #123214 is a reply to message #123198] |
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| Robin Hood wrote on Mon, 25 April 2011 20:18 |
... But this one has a really nice body, dual roof ACs and a roof storage
pod, and is low mileage (66k is low mileage, right?)...
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Right... In the video the paint and body did look pretty good. Most everything behind the cockpit looks like it should clean up fairly good. (Other than the carpet.)
I hope you like green.
You can find all kinds of green sayings. Like: "It aint easy being green." (Kermit the Frog) Didn't Tinker Bell wear green?
When reviewing the vid, I noticed it has a spare mounted. I wonder if it holds air... you might only need three tires/wheels!
It is low mileage... but my 77 has 38,000. But it spent most of it's life sitting on blocks. I am about to put it back on some.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Re: [GMCnet] Towing vs Trailering [message #123225 is a reply to message #123198] |
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Robin.
W5LOX de N9KB
Just a couple of comments.
1. Are you sure the coach has 66,000 and not 166,000, or 266,000 miles?
2. You could look at the belts without without removing to see if they really need to be changed prior to moving it.
3. Changing belts is not a difficult job. It only takes loosening 4 bolts / nuts. Two on the alternator and one each on the PS pump and the AC compressor. All you need is a 3/8" drive socket set and a couple of short extensions. I'm thinking it can all be done from the top (inside) the coach. No one will know you are working on the coach from inside.
4. Hoses are a little more involved in that you need to drain the coolant first. Inspect the upper and lower hoses to see if they are really bad and need to be changed before moving the coach.
4a. I'm more concerned with the heater hoses since one set runs all the way to the rear of the coach to the hot water heater. To move it you could get one piece of new heater hose. Remove the existing 2 hoses from the back of the intake manifold and the the water pump. Then connect these two ports together with the new hose. This will bypass all of the heater hoses in the coach. This can be done from the top in under 1/2 hour.
5. Tire condition is my prime worry. I would read the date codes on the tires to see what you really have there. I have driven several coaches including my own with tires over 10 year old. The age of the tires is only one of the factors that affects the condition. As an example I just received from UPS today 4 new tires for two of my motorcycles. Both have original tires on them. One pair is 30 years old and the other is 26 years old. On this one you will have to call the shots yourself. A good visual inspection both on the inside and outside walls in a must. Also look closely in the tread area for any bulging. I replaced my last set of coach tires at 14 years because of minor side wall cracking.
A GOOD visual inspection is required on these. If all depends on their condition.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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