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| [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C [message #120405] |
Thu, 31 March 2011 09:03  |
k2gkk
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These have a BLACK shroud. I expect you could paint
that shroud any color you desire for the $600 price!
Shipping calculater shows about $100 to Oklahoma City.
eBay: 330547915806
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C [message #120407 is a reply to message #120405] |
Thu, 31 March 2011 09:34  |
jimk
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There is a spray can of adhesion promotor that you coat the part first
than paint. Otherwise it will not stay on after few years.
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:03 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> These have a BLACK shroud. I expect you could paint
> that shroud any color you desire for the $600 price!
>
> Shipping calculater shows about $100 to Oklahoma City.
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> eBay: 330547915806
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C [message #120423 is a reply to message #120421] |
Thu, 31 March 2011 12:13 |
k2gkk
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I suspect that a couple of coats of paint would reduce the
RATE of UV-induced deterioration of the plastic shroud.
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* Mac Macdonald *
* USAF, Retired *
* Oklahoma City *
** "Money Pit" **
* '76 ex - P.B. *
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> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:00:55 -0700
> From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C
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> Plastic is just plastic. It only has a life span determined by it's
> outgassing rate. Man takes dirt & oil and forces them to take unnatural
> forms with heat, pressure, chemicals. It takes the next 1000 years trying to
> change back to it's original form in spite of our objections. We are
> temporary custodians of this planet, let's all enjoy each other and it while
> we are here." Don't take life too seriously, 'taint nohow permanent!". quote
> by Pogo Possum I think.
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:54 AM, roy keen <roynpaula@charter.net> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > I'd be willing to bet the plastic shroud would last a lot longer with a
> > couple of coats of protective paint.
> > Roy
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C [message #120425 is a reply to message #120405] |
Thu, 31 March 2011 12:23 |
midlf
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| k2gkk wrote on Thu, 31 March 2011 09:03 |
These have a BLACK shroud. I expect you could paint
that shroud any color you desire for the $600 price!
Shipping calculator shows about $100 to Oklahoma City.
eBay: 330547915806
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
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Note: Stated in the description text that these are "no warranty".
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C [message #120426 is a reply to message #120423] |
Thu, 31 March 2011 12:22 |
Dennis S
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How would the black affect the cooling efficiency versus a white or lighter color.
Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA
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From: D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Thu, Mar 31, 2011 12:13 pm
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C
suspect that a couple of coats of paint would reduce the
ATE of UV-induced deterioration of the plastic shroud.
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Mac Macdonald *
USAF, Retired *
Oklahoma City *
* "Money Pit" **
'76 ex - P.B. *
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> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:00:55 -0700
From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C
Plastic is just plastic. It only has a life span determined by it's
outgassing rate. Man takes dirt & oil and forces them to take unnatural
forms with heat, pressure, chemicals. It takes the next 1000 years trying to
change back to it's original form in spite of our objections. We are
temporary custodians of this planet, let's all enjoy each other and it while
we are here." Don't take life too seriously, 'taint nohow permanent!". quote
by Pogo Possum I think.
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:54 AM, roy keen <roynpaula@charter.net> wrote:
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> I'd be willing to bet the plastic shroud would last a lot longer with a
> couple of coats of protective paint.
> Roy
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C [message #120427 is a reply to message #120423] |
Thu, 31 March 2011 12:27 |
James Hupy
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Mac, I wasn't trying to suggest that one should not paint the shroud, but
just the futile attempts by mankind. I guess that because of my Wife's
recent passing that perhaps maybe that I am more sensitive to our feeble
attempts in trying to stall or stop the eventual events of life which always
results in the same thing. No offence was intended to anyone out there.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 10:13 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:
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> I suspect that a couple of coats of paint would reduce the
> RATE of UV-induced deterioration of the plastic shroud.
>
> * * * * * * * * *
> * Mac Macdonald *
> * USAF, Retired *
> * Oklahoma City *
> ** "Money Pit" **
> * '76 ex - P.B. *
> * * * * * * * * *
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> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:00:55 -0700
> > From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C
> >
> > Plastic is just plastic. It only has a life span determined by it's
> > outgassing rate. Man takes dirt & oil and forces them to take unnatural
> > forms with heat, pressure, chemicals. It takes the next 1000 years trying
> to
> > change back to it's original form in spite of our objections. We are
> > temporary custodians of this planet, let's all enjoy each other and it
> while
> > we are here." Don't take life too seriously, 'taint nohow permanent!".
> quote
> > by Pogo Possum I think.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:54 AM, roy keen <roynpaula@charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd be willing to bet the plastic shroud would last a lot longer with a
> > > couple of coats of protective paint.
> > > Roy
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C [message #120429 is a reply to message #120427] |
Thu, 31 March 2011 12:42 |
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Jim, I'm all too well acquainted with the "facts of life"
to which you refer. I will turn 73 in just over two weeks
and I certainly know not how much longer before I turn to
dust, but I'm try to forestall that day as long as I can.
There are protective measures that can be taken to prolong
the life of animal, vegetable AND mineral matter, but only
for so long.
Cheers!
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* Mac Macdonald *
* USAF, Retired *
* Oklahoma City *
** "Money Pit" **
* '76 ex - P.B. *
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> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:27:12 -0700
> From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C
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> Mac, I wasn't trying to suggest that one should not paint the shroud, but
> just the futile attempts by mankind. I guess that because of my Wife's
> recent passing that perhaps maybe that I am more sensitive to our feeble
> attempts in trying to stall or stop the eventual events of life which always
> results in the same thing. No offence was intended to anyone out there.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC Royale 403
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 10:13 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
>
> >
> > I suspect that a couple of coats of paint would reduce the
> > RATE of UV-induced deterioration of the plastic shroud.
> >
> > * * * * * * * * *
> > * Mac Macdonald *
> > * USAF, Retired *
> > * Oklahoma City *
> > ** "Money Pit" **
> > * '76 ex - P.B. *
> > * * * * * * * * *
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:00:55 -0700
> > > From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
> > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C
> > >
> > > Plastic is just plastic. It only has a life span determined by it's
> > > outgassing rate. Man takes dirt & oil and forces them to take unnatural
> > > forms with heat, pressure, chemicals. It takes the next 1000 years trying
> > to
> > > change back to it's original form in spite of our objections. We are
> > > temporary custodians of this planet, let's all enjoy each other and it
> > while
> > > we are here." Don't take life too seriously, 'taint nohow permanent!".
> > quote
> > > by Pogo Possum I think.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:54 AM, roy keen wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'd be willing to bet the plastic shroud would last a lot longer with a
> > > > couple of coats of protective paint.
> > > > Roy
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C [message #120441 is a reply to message #120405] |
Thu, 31 March 2011 13:50 |
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Mac,,,,maybe a couple coats of protective paint will make you(all of us) last longer,,,,LOL,,,,PL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C [message #120443 is a reply to message #120441] |
Thu, 31 March 2011 14:08 |
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Now we get into serious discussions about color, shade, tint & I am sure
this subject could get seriously side tracked, even derailed if we try a
little. Lighter colors reflect heat, darker colors absorb it. Early
spacecraft used alternating squares of contrasting colors on them to control
temps as they spun around the earth. Now is it a benefit to release heat
from the AC or a detriment? Are we concerned only about extracting heat from
the interior of the coach, or are we concerned about helping the compressor
& evaporator do their jobs?
Just paint? I don't think so.<Grin>
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Paul Leavitt <leavittpaul@yahoo.com>wrote:
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> Mac,,,,maybe a couple coats of protective paint will make you(all of us)
> last longer,,,,LOL,,,,PL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C [message #120444 is a reply to message #120405] |
Thu, 31 March 2011 14:12 |
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But some plastics are further degraded by Ultra violet rays and ozone.
They don't fail nearly as soon if they're protected by paint.
RonC
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:00:55 -0700 James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
writes:
> Plastic is just plastic. It only has a life span determined by it's
> outgassing rate. Man takes dirt & oil and forces them to take
> unnatural
> forms with heat, pressure, chemicals. It takes the next 1000 years
> trying to
> change back to it's original form in spite of our objections. We
> are
> temporary custodians of this planet, let's all enjoy each other and
> it while
> we are here." Don't take life too seriously, 'taint nohow
> permanent!". quote
> by Pogo Possum I think.
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:54 AM, roy keen <roynpaula@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I'd be willing to bet the plastic shroud would last a lot longer
> with a
> > couple of coats of protective paint.
> > Roy
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C [message #120445 is a reply to message #120425] |
Thu, 31 March 2011 14:33 |
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We installed the Carrier AirV low profile HIGH OUTPUT unit (15,000 btu) back in
2007, it is a SWEET unit, does a great job for the entire coach.
I searched online, all info said that this super low profile unit is not longer
built.....wonder why ?? They do have an AirV in a 15,000 model but it looks
much higher. Either way, our Carrier is great and I wouldn't hesitate to put
one in again.
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 12:23:57 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C
k2gkk wrote on Thu, 31 March 2011 09:03
> These have a BLACK shroud. I expect you could paint
> that shroud any color you desire for the $600 price!
>
> Shipping calculator shows about $100 to Oklahoma City.
>
> eBay: 330547915806
>
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
Note: Stated in the description text that these are "no warranty".
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1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C [message #120447 is a reply to message #120445] |
Thu, 31 March 2011 15:04 |
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On Mar 31, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Ray Erspamer wrote:
> We installed the Carrier AirV low profile HIGH OUTPUT unit (15,000 btu) back in
> 2007, it is a SWEET unit, does a great job for the entire coach.
>
> I searched online, all info said that this super low profile unit is not longer
> built.....wonder why ??
For the same reasons that a lot of RV product manufacturers have dropped lines or gone out of business.
The RV industry is no longer buying large quantities of the products as they are not building nearly as many new RVs.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C [message #120470 is a reply to message #120444] |
Thu, 31 March 2011 20:46 |
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I am finding that not only my a/c shroud and roof pod are no longer rapidly deteriorating from the effects of ozone and direct sunlight but the whole coach is holding up great. All I had to do was park it under my house in the garage.
Roy
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C [message #120478 is a reply to message #120405] |
Thu, 31 March 2011 22:41 |
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That's not a bad deal on the low profile Carrier. JimK was able to find me one last year, and it works wonderfully. I also love the look of the coach without a big, tall box on the roof!
Don't like the no warrantee, but the Carrier Low Profiles are the nicest ones out there.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C [message #120784 is a reply to message #120445] |
Mon, 04 April 2011 09:10 |
Erv Troyer
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| Ray Erspamer wrote on Thu, 31 March 2011 14:33 |
We installed the Carrier AirV low profile HIGH OUTPUT unit (15,000 btu) back in 2007, it is a SWEET unit, does a great job for the entire coach.
I searched online, all info said that this super low profile unit is not longer built.....wonder why ??
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Carrier is a huge company building for the residential and commercial markets, and the volume is just not big enough for them in the RV market. Their biggest problem was that they never got into the OEM market to any extent, and that is where the big numbers are. Aftermarket sales are just not very big for RV ac's.
Dometic/Duo-Therm and RVP/Coleman have many other RV products that they can wrap into package deals with OEM's for some hefty discounts, and Carrier never had that advantage - the only thing they were selling was the best built RV A/C available. And in the RV OEM market "best built" is not even on the list of requirements for products. I have always said that in the high volumn RV business the No. 1 requirement is COST, and No. 2 is "Can I buy it cheaper somewhere else?". Reliability and good design are way down the list somewhere.
I worked on the air conditioner production line at Duo-Therm in 1966, when we produced the first A/C designed from the ground up for modern RV's. We built 12,000 units that year, all of these being sold to the aftermarket. A year later Coleman came out with a copy of our design.
Sales increased rapidly, and when we started selling A/C's to the OEM's the dealers got upset, as selling these as an add-on was a big profit maker for them. Things sure have changed since those days.
Through the years I have seen MANY companies, both big and small, get into the RV A/C market. Frigiking, Instamatic, Intertherm, Evans, Armstrong, and many whose names I can't remember. Carrier was just the latest one to drop out. Too bad - they had a good unit.
Erv Troyer Lagrange, IN
74 Sequoia
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carrier Low Profile 13,500 BTU A/C [message #120790 is a reply to message #120784] |
Mon, 04 April 2011 09:26 |
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Erv, I think that the largest mobile AC market by far would be refrigerated
Box van bodies for produce peddlers, and refrigerated trailers for the
trucking industry as well as box car refers for the railroads. RV are all
different sizes and not well insulated & their owners tend to be a picky
bunch, wanting features like quiet running units & no water dripping off the
evaporators and remote thermostats, & heat strips. If a rail yard has a
whole string of box car refers running on diesel rattling away all night,
all it will disturb is a few bums who shouldn't be there anyway. Same thing
at truck stops. But RV parks are a different deal. I agree, that low profile
carrier unit was a great unit. Mary & I had a flower shop for many years,
and used ford e-150 or aerostar vans for delivery. Had to cobble up some
automotive aftermarket units that ran off the engine driven compressor to
get enough cooling in those vans to make the flowers happy. The drivers
would bitch because flowers are happy at 41 degrees. Jumping in and out of a
delivery van on 90 degree days in stop & go traffic made for some unusual
confrontations with them and other drivers and employees. Don't miss it
much, but I sure miss Mary. I guess the old delay start Duotherm will just
have to do for now. Rugged & a power hog for sure.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Erv Troyer <reo43@aol.com> wrote:
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>
> Ray Erspamer wrote on Thu, 31 March 2011 14:33
> > We installed the Carrier AirV low profile HIGH OUTPUT unit (15,000 btu)
> back in 2007, it is a SWEET unit, does a great job for the entire coach.
> >
> > I searched online, all info said that this super low profile unit is not
> longer built.....wonder why ??
>
> Carrier is a huge company building for the residential and commercial
> markets, and the volume is just not big enough for them in the RV market.
> Their biggest problem was that they never got into the OEM market to any
> extent, and that is where the big numbers are. Aftermarket sales are just
> not very big for RV ac's.
>
> Dometic/Duo-Therm and RVP/Coleman have many other RV products that they can
> wrap into package deals with OEM's for some hefty discounts, and Carrier
> never had that advantage - the only thing they were selling was the best
> built RV A/C available. And in the RV OEM market "best built" is not even on
> the list of requirements for products. I have always said that in the high
> volumn RV business the No. 1 requirement is COST, and No. 2 is "Can I buy it
> cheaper somewhere else?". Reliability and good design are way down the list
> somewhere.
>
> I worked on the air conditioner production line at Duo-Therm in 1966, when
> we produced the first A/C designed from the ground up for modern RV's. We
> built 12,000 units that year, all of these being sold to the aftermarket. A
> year later Coleman came out with a copy of our design.
>
> Sales increased rapidly, and when we started selling A/C's to the OEM's the
> dealers got upset, as selling these as an add-on was a big profit maker for
> them. Things sure have changed since those days.
>
> Through the years I have seen MANY companies, both big and small, get into
> the RV A/C market. Frigiking, Instamatic, Intertherm, Evans, Armstrong, and
> many whose names I can't remember. Carrier was just the latest one to drop
> out. Too bad - they had a good unit.
> --
> Erv Troyer Lagrange, IN
> 74 Sequoia
> reo43@aol.com
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