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Re: [GMCnet] Mirror bracket removal [message #120177] Mon, 28 March 2011 11:38 Go to next message
Gary Casey is currently offline  Gary Casey   United States
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The following reminded me about something I heard about the outside mirror
brackets.  Are the nuts on the inside captive?  Seems to me someone said that if
you remove the bolts the nuts will fall and they are difficult to get back in
place - or something like that.  Is removing a mirror bracket difficult?
Gary Casey
 
Someone once suggested to take the mirror bracket off and take it to a "real"
paint store.  They should be able to whip up a batch of paint that should
match.  Most stores should be able to load it into something that works very
much like a rattle can.

Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list




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Re: [GMCnet] Mirror bracket removal [message #120179 is a reply to message #120177] Mon, 28 March 2011 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
g.winger is currently offline  g.winger   United States
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Gary,,,I have my dash apart and I'll look for you. Maybe the parts book will help if you have one. Or we could wait and the "Service Manual Rob" from down under will respond with chapter and verse!!! I'll look tonite though,,,,PL
Re: [GMCnet] Mirror bracket removal [message #120184 is a reply to message #120179] Mon, 28 March 2011 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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g.winger wrote on Mon, 28 March 2011 11:02

Gary,,,I have my dash apart and I'll look for you. Maybe the parts book will help if you have one. Or we could wait and the "Service Manual Rob" from down under will respond with chapter and verse!!! I'll look tonite though,,,,PL

Also, I believe the 78's are different in that they have studs protruding. I'm not sure if they are on a stud plate and whether that plate is secured. That would be a nast surprise.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Mirror bracket removal [message #120189 is a reply to message #120184] Mon, 28 March 2011 13:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Mike, mine were stuck firm enough to get the bolts out and replace with the Ramcos. The door striker plate is where the nuts might fall if you are not careful.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Mirror bracket removal [message #120191 is a reply to message #120189] Mon, 28 March 2011 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chuck Garton is currently offline  Chuck Garton   United States
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My Ramco mirrors came with instructions that said late 1978 coaches
did NOT have fixed nuts.

To check; loosen the drivers side mirror. You can access the inside
nuts through the electro-level panel if they are not fixed. On the
passenger side, you will have to pull the big panel beside the seat.

Chuck Garton
77 Kingsley 455
Ridgecrest, CA

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Re: [GMCnet] Mirror bracket removal [message #120192 is a reply to message #120189] Mon, 28 March 2011 14:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Same experience as Dan when I installed my Curtis antenna mount. The nuts were captive (somehow).

Larry Davick
1976 Palm Beach

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Re: [GMCnet] Mirror bracket removal [message #120193 is a reply to message #120189] Mon, 28 March 2011 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WD0AFQ wrote on Mon, 28 March 2011 11:51

Mike, mine were stuck firm enough to get the bolts out and replace with the Ramcos. The door striker plate is where the nuts might fall if you are not careful.
Dan


1. Gary was asking about the mirror mounting nuts. He was quoting a post of mine from another thread.

2. I believe that most coaches have nuts on the inside... how captive? Not sure. The last year or so they have studs sicking out of the body with nuts on the outside. My '78 has studs with nuts, the '77 has bolts.


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Re: [GMCnet] Mirror bracket removal [message #120197 is a reply to message #120193] Mon, 28 March 2011 15:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My nuts were captive as well. But, a PO had run into something with the mirror which caused the mirror to partially pull on the fiberglass and damage it. I had to remove the inner panel on the drivers side to get to the backside with the captive nuts. A little fiberglass and reinforcement work solved the problem. But removing the panel also allowed me to discover that my floorboard was wet and rotted by a window leak. I dug out all the rotted plywood and fiberglassed it to prevent further rot (hopefully). but I still don't know where the leak was (is).

Jack Christensen - K6ROW, '76 Glenbrook/Clasco - "The Silver Bullet", Sebastopol, CA
Re: [GMCnet] Mirror bracket removal [message #120200 is a reply to message #120177] Mon, 28 March 2011 15:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On my '77 these are 5/16 Nutserts. They will not fall out.

Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
Coshocton OH
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Re: [GMCnet] Mirror bracket removal [message #120203 is a reply to message #120177] Mon, 28 March 2011 17:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My 73 also has captive nuts.

Glenn


Glenn Giere, Portland OR, K7GAG '73 "Moby the Motorhome" 26'
Re: [GMCnet] Mirror bracket removal [message #120212 is a reply to message #120179] Mon, 28 March 2011 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Paul,

Funny you should mention this! I have a set of RAMCO mirrors to put on The
Blue Streak, however, because they are wider than the OEM mirrors I have to
make them easily removable to park it in the position it needs to be in my
shop down here.

I took one off the other day and it has Rivnuts.

Here's the info out of the Parts Book:

Ref: Parts Book 78Z
Page: 23-80
Figure: 23.107 Mirror - Outside Rear View
Key: 9
Part Number: 2497229
Description: RIVNUT - bracket to side

The Rivnuts go through the plastic and into:

Key: 7
Part Number: 701405
Description: REINFORCEMENT - bracket (prior to Serial No. 6V100878)

Key: 7
Part Number: 2005983
Description: REINFORCEMENT - LH mirror (eff. w/Serial No 6V100878)

Key: 7
Part Number: 2006416
Description: REINFORCEMENT - RH mirror (eff. w/Serial No 6V100878)

Observations:

The Parts Book lists the bolts to be 3/8-16 x 7/8 but the ones I took out
were 5/16-18 x 1 1/4 stainless steel.

If you need to replace the rivet nuts you can get them here:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#rivet-nuts/=bmwwb4

I have used the ones that look like stubby Molly bolts to replace the ones
that are in the dash support that the master cylinder bracket bolts into.

Here's a picture of the tool I made to chinch them down:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=27934

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=27933

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Gary,,,I have my dash apart and I'll look for you. Maybe the parts book will
help if you have one. Or we could wait and the "Service Manual Rob" from
down under will respond with chapter and verse!!! I'll look tonite
though,,,,PL
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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Mirror bracket removal [message #120245 is a reply to message #120177] Tue, 29 March 2011 09:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob,,,you're the best. Also,,,,are we burnin propane yet?????,,,,,PL
Re: [GMCnet] Mirror bracket removal [message #120285 is a reply to message #120245] Tue, 29 March 2011 14:58 Go to previous message
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Paul,

You're welcome and nope, putting the Caddy together is pretty low on the TTD
list for The Blue Streak. Lots of other stuff to do first.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Rob,,,you're the best. Also,,,,are we burnin propane yet?????,,,,,PL
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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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