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Sat, 26 March 2011 15:12  |
bryant374
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The GMC Motorhome has an outstanding provinance, the design, styling, engineering & endurance has few if any peers. When I was a new owner I was most impressed by the large variety of GMC MH related "stuff". Very likely many of you are not aware of the extent of these originally available items, so I thought a quick list might be of interest:
HotWheel GMC MHs - >70 versions (continuation to present)
Rubber pencil erasers - 5 colors (replication the 73-74 colors)
Barbie motorhomes - 3 versions
Hess Training van
GMC MH by Zylmex - 2 different models (similar to HotWheels)
Fiberglass 1/16 model - several
Frisbees - 2 versions
Embroidered patches - 10 (many others by GMC MH Chapters)
Stickers - 2
Belt buckles - 5 versions
Decks of playing cards - 3 versions
pens - 3 versions
Match books - 3 versions
Key fobs - several
Cups & glasses
Packet of coffee
fly swatter
Kite
Camera
Clothing, hats, caps, jackets, shirts, etc
Publications - many, many, e.g., 50 different Sales brochures, 50 different magazine ads, etc, etc.
Showroom films - 13
Film Projector - 2
In house film of development progress - 1
Prototype B/W Pictures - 70+
There is much more but I said this was a quick list :^)
Nearly all of these items were sponsored by GMC and available during the 1973 - 1978 period.
Many of these items were given away at GMC sponsored rallies or by GMC MH dealers .
While I have nearly all of the above items, the problem is , I have enjoyed them for years & what do I do with them now?
Bill Bryant
PO 1976~PB (owned 34 years)
1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
GMC Motorhome History
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| Re: GMC Motorhome collectable stuff [message #120030 is a reply to message #120029] |
Sat, 26 March 2011 15:42  |
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jaholland
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| bryant374 wrote on Sat, 26 March 2011 15:12 |
The GMC Motorhome has an outstanding provinance, the design, styling, engineering & endurance has few if any peers. When I was a new owner I was most impressed by the large variety of GMC MH related "stuff". Very likely many of you are not aware of the extent of these originally available items, so I thought a quick list might be of interest:
HotWheel GMC MHs - >70 versions (continuation to present)
Rubber pencil erasers - 5 colors (replication the 73-74 colors)
Barbie motorhomes - 3 versions
Hess Training van
GMC MH by Zylmex - 2 different models (similar to HotWheels)
Fiberglass 1/16 model - several
Frisbees - 2 versions
Embroidered patches - 10 (many others by GMC MH Chapters)
Stickers - 2
Belt buckles - 5 versions
Decks of playing cards - 3 versions
pens - 3 versions
Match books - 3 versions
Key fobs - several
Cups & glasses
Packet of coffee
fly swatter
Kite
Camera
Clothing, hats, caps, jackets, shirts, etc
Publications - many, many, e.g., 50 different Sales brochures, 50 different magazine ads, etc, etc.
Showroom films - 13
Film Projector - 2
In house film of development progress - 1
Prototype B/W Pictures - 70+
There is much more but I said this was a quick list :^)
Nearly all of these items were sponsored by GMC and available during the 1973 - 1978 period.
Many of these items were given away at GMC sponsored rallies or by GMC MH dealers .
While I have nearly all of the above items, the problem is , I have enjoyed them for years & what do I do with them now?
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Set Up A Table With All Of Them At Every Meet ~
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| Re: GMC Motorhome collectable stuff [message #120032 is a reply to message #120029] |
Sat, 26 March 2011 15:49 |
Dennis S
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| bryant374 wrote on Sat, 26 March 2011 15:12 |
The GMC Motorhome has an outstanding provinance
While I have nearly all of the above items, the problem is , I have enjoyed them for years & what do I do with them now?
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Bill,
Not unlike any great collection -- it takes a lot to amass and then you hate to see it parted out -- but sometimes that happens and the parts go to those who only want to focus on a specific area or only want a limited item to enchance their own hobby.
Finding a good venue for future owners to see and enjoy what you have accumulated might be very difficult.
Would the GMCMI be interested in acquiring the collection and displaying it all or in part at the conventions?
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: GMC Motorhome collectable stuff [message #120035 is a reply to message #120029] |
Sat, 26 March 2011 16:15 |
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I really would like to see a collection like this. Hopefully it will stay together. I really think International, or one of the other clubs should buy it if you are ready to send it on. I'm willing to contribute a small amount and I'm sure enough other members would be as well. it doesn't need to be displayed at every convention, but maybe once in a while plus a nice photo inventory on the club website would be a great addition for the money.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: GMC Motorhome collectable stuff [message #120051 is a reply to message #120036] |
Sat, 26 March 2011 19:16 |
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Bill, I have always considered you to be the "official" GMC historian. Or possibly "unofficial" but either way you are the man. I agree with the others who have suggested that you not break up the collection.
My suggestion is that GMCMI appoint someone to the position of "GMC Motorhome Historian" when and if you decide that you no longer want to continue in that capacity. At that time your inventory could be transferred by sale or donation to GMCMI in that persons care.
The new GMCMI historian would then be responsible for not only maintaining the artifacts but also displaying at least parts of the collection at GMCMI rallies.
Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
Coshocton OH
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome collectable stuff [message #120064 is a reply to message #120051] |
Sat, 26 March 2011 20:40 |
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I'll heartily second this motion.
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
Bill Brown wrote:
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> Bill, I have always considered you to be the "official" GMC historian. Or
> possibly "unofficial" but either way you are the man. I agree with the others
> who have suggested that you not break up the collection.
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> My suggestion is that GMCMI appoint someone to the position of "GMC Motorhome
> Historian" when and if you decide that you no longer want to continue in that
> capacity. At that time your inventory could be transferred by sale or
> donation to GMCMI in that persons care.
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> The new GMCMI historian would then be responsible for not only maintaining the
> artifacts but also displaying at least parts of the collection at GMCMI
> rallies.
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| Re: GMC Motorhome collectable stuff [message #120069 is a reply to message #120051] |
Sat, 26 March 2011 20:58 |
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| carguy wrote on Sat, 26 March 2011 17:16 |
Bill, I have always considered you to be the "official" GMC historian. Or possibly "unofficial" but either way you are the man. I agree with the others who have suggested that you not break up the collection.
My suggestion is that GMCMI appoint someone to the position of "GMC Motorhome Historian" when and if you decide that you no longer want to continue in that capacity. At that time your inventory could be transferred by sale or donation to GMCMI in that persons care.
The new GMCMI historian would then be responsible for not only maintaining the artifacts but also displaying at least parts of the collection at GMCMI rallies.
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I seem to remember someone saving a transmode that had been a mobile jewellery store display. I can not think of a more appropriate place to display "GMC Motorhome collectable stuff."
GMCMI Mobile Museum?
Possible but might have to jump through a few "hoops."
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome collectable stuff [message #120071 is a reply to message #120069] |
Sat, 26 March 2011 21:03 |
emerystora
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On Mar 26, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Mike Miller wrote:
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> carguy wrote on Sat, 26 March 2011 17:16
>> Bill, I have always considered you to be the "official" GMC historian. Or possibly "unofficial" but either way you are the man. I agree with the others who have suggested that you not break up the collection.
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>> My suggestion is that GMCMI appoint someone to the position of "GMC Motorhome Historian" when and if you decide that you no longer want to continue in that capacity. At that time your inventory could be transferred by sale or donation to GMCMI in that persons care.
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>> The new GMCMI historian would then be responsible for not only maintaining the artifacts but also displaying at least parts of the collection at GMCMI rallies.
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> I seem to remember someone saving a transmode that had been a mobile jewellery store display. I can not think of a more appropriate place to display "GMC Motorhome collectable stuff."
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> GMCMI Mobile Museum?
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> Possible but might have to jump through a few "hoops."
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> Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
You would also have to come up with a financing plan for moving your museum from rally to rally. That might be $4000 or more each year just for the gasolline plus tires, maintenance, etc.
Plus someone's time to drive it.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome collectable stuff [message #120076 is a reply to message #120071] |
Sat, 26 March 2011 21:23 |
Carl S.
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| emerystora wrote on Sat, 26 March 2011 19:03 |
On Mar 26, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Mike Miller wrote:
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> carguy wrote on Sat, 26 March 2011 17:16
>> Bill, I have always considered you to be the "official" GMC historian. Or possibly "unofficial" but either way you are the man. I agree with the others who have suggested that you not break up the collection.
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>> My suggestion is that GMCMI appoint someone to the position of "GMC Motorhome Historian" when and if you decide that you no longer want to continue in that capacity. At that time your inventory could be transferred by sale or donation to GMCMI in that persons care.
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>> The new GMCMI historian would then be responsible for not only maintaining the artifacts but also displaying at least parts of the collection at GMCMI rallies.
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> I seem to remember someone saving a transmode that had been a mobile jewellery store display. I can not think of a more appropriate place to display "GMC Motorhome collectable stuff."
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> GMCMI Mobile Museum?
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> Possible but might have to jump through a few "hoops."
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> Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
You would also have to come up with a financing plan for moving your museum from rally to rally. That might be $4000 or more each year just for the gasolline plus tires, maintenance, etc.
Plus someone's time to drive it.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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I nominate Ken B. as the driver! 
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: GMC Motorhome collectable stuff [message #120083 is a reply to message #120029] |
Sat, 26 March 2011 22:23 |
bryant374
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Whoa...... time for a reality check.
Thanks for the feedback, appreciate your thoughts. With the list of items I hoped to stur interest in others that might like to collect GMC memorabilia also. At some point I will definitely have to make the decission on what to do with my collection, but it is not immediate. Allow me to also provide some more details on some past activities.
During the 1990s I had presented seminars on collectables & memorabilia at 3 GMCMI Seminars.
At the Delaware GMCMI Convention I had a room just for display of the collection. Brought a ton of stuff and appeared to be of considerable interest to many people.
At DuQuoin, IL I brought a smaller display, seemed to be of interest to some.
For the past several years I have provided Historical info for the bulletin boards at the GMCMI conventions sourced form my collectables.
At each (1973-78) years 25th anniversary, provided copies of sales literature & other info for the bulletin boards from the collection.
So....I have made use of the collectables and have shared with the membership.
On the way to DuQuoin last Fall we stopped by the RV Museum at Elkhart,IN to check out their new displays I hadn't seen a couple of years prior. While looking at the 1974 GMC on display I noticed there was an EMPTY display case right next to the GMC. I went to the front desk and asked why it couldn't be used to display GMC collectables (there is one full of Winnebago stuff near the Winnebago display). I offered them enough GMC collectables right then to fill the display case, for free! Got turned down and had the feeling their primary interest was in the products made by companies still in business & supported the museums financial needs better than the GMC.
Note: For a check of some of these collectables check the Photo Archives, "Memorabilia" author = wbryant
Disappointing but I'll get over it :^(
Bill Bryant
PO 1976~PB (owned 34 years)
1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
GMC Motorhome History
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome collectable stuff [message #120084 is a reply to message #120083] |
Sat, 26 March 2011 22:30 |
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Bill,
I had the good fortune to attend the Delaware GMCMI Convention and saw the
items you brought; in the vernacular of the current generation it was
"AWESOME!"
I wonder if the RV Museum in Elkhart would be amenable to accept your GMC
items if the GMC community chipped in and provided a display case?
There's a fair few skilled people that have done some amazing work on their
GMC interiors and I'll bet they could make a display case pretty easily.
I would be more than happy to contribute to that cause.
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome collectable stuff
Whoa...... time for a reality check.
Thanks for the feedback, appreciate your thoughts. With the list of items I
hoped to stur interest in others that might like to collect GMC memorabilia
also. At some point I will definitely have to make the decission on what to
do with my collection, but it is not immediate. Allow me to also provide
some more details on some past activities.
During the 1990s I had presented seminars on collectables & memorabilia at 3
GMCMI Seminars.
At the Delaware GMCMI Convention I had a room just for display of the
collection. Brought a ton of stuff and appeared to be of considerable
interest to many people.
At DuQuoin, IL I brought a smaller display, seemed to be of interest to
some.
For the past several years I have provided Historical info for the bulletin
boards at the GMCMI conventions sourced form my collectables.
At each (1973-78) years 25th anniversary, provided copies of sales
literature & other info for the bulletin boards from the collection.
So....I have made use of the collectables and have shared with the
membership.
On the way to DuQuoin last Fall we stopped by the RV Museum at Elkhart,IN to
check out their new displays I hadn't seen a couple of years prior. While
looking at the 1974 GMC on display I noticed there was an EMPTY display case
right next to the GMC. I went to the front desk and asked why it couldn't
be used to display GMC collectables (there is one full of Winnebago stuff
near the Winnebago display). I offered them enough GMC collectables right
then to fill the display case, for free! Got turned down and had the
feeling their primary interest was in the products made by companies still
in business & supported the museums financial needs better than the GMC.
Disappointing but I'll get over it :^(
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Bill Bryant
1976~PB
1914 Ford
1965 Corvette
GMC MH History CD
GMC Showroom Films DVD
http://bdub.net/billbryant/
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
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'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome collectable stuff [message #120105 is a reply to message #120084] |
Sun, 27 March 2011 12:41 |
Bob de Kruyff
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""I wonder if the RV Museum in Elkhart would be amenable to accept your GMC
items if the GMC community chipped in and provided a display case?
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Rob, I don't know if you have read that the museum will probably be closing due to lack of funds.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome collectable stuff [message #120111 is a reply to message #120105] |
Sun, 27 March 2011 13:05 |
jknezek
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| Bob de Kruyff wrote on Sun, 27 March 2011 13:41 |
""I wonder if the RV Museum in Elkhart would be amenable to accept your GMC
items if the GMC community chipped in and provided a display case?
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Rob, I don't know if you have read that the museum will probably be closing due to lack of funds.
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Last I heard they had about 2 months worth of working capital and then it would be shut down if a new source of funds is not found. Apparently they need 40K a month to keep the lights on and the place maintained and on 50K visitors a year, without significant industry support, it just can't foot the bills.
I remember the original discussion about where to locate it and understood the draw of building it in an RV industry heavy area, plus I think the land was donated, but I still think it would have been a better idea to locate somewhere in the South where it might have been a snowbird destination or at least a year round attraction for RVers. Elkhart just isn't a camping destination during the winter months.
Oh well, no worse than some other museums that struggle with the economy.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome collectable stuff [message #120118 is a reply to message #120111] |
Sun, 27 March 2011 15:32 |
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They could have located it in Cleveland on the edge of the lake since the
R&R museum is there. It's a wonderful place in the winter for Alaskans
heading to Philadelphia for the winter. Hah.
Jeremy, if you had been around to suggest a sunnier location I'm sure they
would have given it a second thought. I know your suggestion makes sense to
me. However, the northern part of Indiana was trying to put together a
driving tour of automobile museums. The problem with the effort was that
everything is separated by a more than a few miles. Had someone given it
some greater thought and put together a cooperative effort (egos getting out
of the way), the museum could have made it.
Closing it seems to be a waste of the collection. I can't imagine it taking
that kind of money to keep it open. It sounds like some mismanagement or
poor judgment has been involved.
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
Jeremy wrote:
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> Bob de Kruyff wrote on Sun, 27 March 2011 13:41
>> ""I wonder if the RV Museum in Elkhart would be amenable to accept your GMC
>> items if the GMC community chipped in and provided a display case?
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>> Rob, I don't know if you have read that the museum will probably be closing
>> due to lack of funds.
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> Last I heard they had about 2 months worth of working capital and then it
> would be shut down if a new source of funds is not found. Apparently they need
> 40K a month to keep the lights on and the place maintained and on 50K visitors
> a year, without significant industry support, it just can't foot the bills.
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> I remember the original discussion about where to locate it and understood the
> draw of building it in an RV industry heavy area, plus I think the land was
> donated, but I still think it would have been a better idea to locate
> somewhere in the South where it might have been a snowbird destination or at
> least a year round attraction for RVers. Elkhart just isn't a camping
> destination during the winter months.
>
> Oh well, no worse than some other museums that struggle with the economy.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome collectable stuff [message #120120 is a reply to message #120111] |
Sun, 27 March 2011 15:46 |
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It looks like Marcus Lemonis, Chairman of Camping World is stepping up and helping to keep the museum going.
Here is a link to the blog from just a couple of days ago by Nick Russel, a friend of Al Hesselbart, the museum historian. No comment about Camping World et al staying solvent.
http://gypsyjournalrv.com/2011/03/camping-world-does-good/
Now if I could just get there.
Don Adams Dallas, TX
'76 26' Glenbrook, '90 Sidekick
rebuilt by R Archer, powered by J Bounds, Koba
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome collectable stuff [message #120122 is a reply to message #120105] |
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Bob,
Nope! Oh well it was a thought.
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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""I wonder if the RV Museum in Elkhart would be amenable to accept your GMC
items if the GMC community chipped in and provided a display case?
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Rob, I don't know if you have read that the museum will probably be closing
due to lack of funds.
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Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome collectable stuff [message #120127 is a reply to message #120120] |
Sun, 27 March 2011 16:45 |
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| Don A wrote on Sun, 27 March 2011 16:46 |
It looks like Marcus Lemonis, Chairman of Camping World is stepping up and helping to keep the museum going.
Here is a link to the blog from just a couple of days ago by Nick Russel, a friend of Al Hesselbart, the museum historian. No comment about Camping World et al staying solvent.
http://gypsyjournalrv.com/2011/03/camping-world-does-good/
Now if I could just get there.
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I had seen this posting. The conditions are pretty stiff, but beggars can't be choosers. Hopefully the museum will pull through and there are worse things than having a camping world store attached and a "good sam" welcome hall. As I've said before, I believe Camping World and Good Sam will survive, though I'd worry about most of the publications the parent company produces.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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