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OhNan prob.. [message #119725] Wed, 23 March 2011 18:48 Go to next message
cbwoodsr is currently offline  cbwoodsr   United States
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Has three terminals...

I hooked the two larger wires to the back terminal and the right front terminal and the one smaller wire to the front left terminal
but it would start and run as long as I held in the start button, would die when I released it.

Next??


CBWood
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Re: OhNan prob.. [message #119729 is a reply to message #119725] Wed, 23 March 2011 19:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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CBWoodSR wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 17:48

Has three terminals...

I hooked the two larger wires to the back terminal and the right front terminal and the one smaller wire to the front left terminal
but it would start and run as long as I held in the start button, would die when I released it.

Next??

One possibility is that the board is not seeing an output from the flywheel generator which it uses to sense whether the unit is running. Was it running ok before?


Bob de Kruyff
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Re: OhNan prob.. [message #119743 is a reply to message #119729] Wed, 23 March 2011 21:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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was running great until I unhooked two to put together like mentioned on the net..

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Re: OhNan prob.. [message #119745 is a reply to message #119743] Wed, 23 March 2011 21:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Guess what I would do !

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Re: [GMCnet] OhNan prob.. [message #119756 is a reply to message #119743] Wed, 23 March 2011 23:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am not clear as to what you unhooked to put together.

The voltage regulator has three terminals. There are 4 wires but two
of them are already connected together by both being plugged onto a
terminal that goes to one of the connections. The other two
connections have single wires going to them.

The suggestions on the net to eliminate the charger/ voltage regulator
say to disconnect the two single wires and to disconnect the double
connector and leave the two wires on it and just tape it up.

Emery Stora

On Mar 23, 2011, at 8:45 PM, Charles Wood <cbwoodsr@swbell.net> wrote:

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> was running great until I unhooked two to put together like
> mentioned on the net..
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Re: [GMCnet] OhNan prob.. [message #119769 is a reply to message #119756] Thu, 24 March 2011 04:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here is a description , and pictures
http://gmcmotorhome.info/generator.html#ALTERNATOR

is this what you changed?

gene



On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:

> I am not clear as to what you unhooked to put together.
>
> The voltage regulator has three terminals. There are 4 wires but two
> of them are already connected together by both being plugged onto a
> terminal that goes to one of the connections. The other two
> connections have single wires going to them.
>
> The suggestions on the net to eliminate the charger/ voltage regulator
> say to disconnect the two single wires and to disconnect the double
> connector and leave the two wires on it and just tape it up.
>
> Emery Stora
>
> On Mar 23, 2011, at 8:45 PM, Charles Wood <cbwoodsr@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > was running great until I unhooked two to put together like
> > mentioned on the net..
> > --
> > CBWood
> > 77 Kingslay
> > MWC OK
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Re: [GMCnet] OhNan prob.. [message #119773 is a reply to message #119756] Thu, 24 March 2011 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cbwoodsr is currently offline  cbwoodsr   United States
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mine doesnt/didnt have two wires together on one terminal


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Re: [GMCnet] OhNan prob.. [message #119775 is a reply to message #119773] Thu, 24 March 2011 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How many terminals do you have?
How mny wires do you have?

Emery Stora

On Mar 24, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Charles Wood <cbwoodsr@swbell.net> wrote:

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> mine doesnt/didnt have two wires together on one terminal
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Re: [GMCnet] OhNan prob.. [message #119785 is a reply to message #119775] Thu, 24 March 2011 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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3 terminals, 4 wires; two similiar slightly larger wires w/female ends. one slightly smaller wire, female end, one with male end ...


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Re: [GMCnet] OhNan prob.. [message #119798 is a reply to message #119785] Thu, 24 March 2011 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mar 24, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Charles Wood <cbwoodsr@swbell.net> wrote:

>
>
> 3 terminals, 4 wires; two similiar slightly larger wires w/female
> ends. one slightly smaller wire, female end, one with male end ...
>
> --
> CBWood
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>
In your last message you said:

"mine doesnt/didnt have two wires together on one terminal"

HOWEVER, you now say that you have three terminals and four wires. So,
you must have had two wires together on one of the terminals.

I also have a 1977 Kingsley and it did indeed have two wires on one of
the terminals. Long ago I eliminated the voltage charger/regulator.

I have my leg in a steel brace so I cannot get out to my Gmc right now
to look at the two wires that are taped off together. Would someone
else reading this that still has their voltage regulator connected on
a 1977 please go out to their Onan and report where their wires are
connected in order to try to help Charles get his reconnected properly.

Two of the wires are connected to a clip that then goes to one of the
terminals. Please identify if that terminal is male or female and if
the two wires are the larger wires.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsly
Santa Fe, NM
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Re: [GMCnet] OhNan prob.. [message #119799 is a reply to message #119798] Thu, 24 March 2011 11:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cbwoodsr is currently offline  cbwoodsr   United States
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..Two of the wires are connected to a clip ...
I dont have that clip


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Re: OhNan prob.. [message #119800 is a reply to message #119743] Thu, 24 March 2011 11:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CBWoodSR wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 20:45

was running great until I unhooked two to put together like mentioned on the net..

Chuck, I sort of lost track of how this all started, but why not just put it back to how it was when it was running great?


Bob de Kruyff
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Re: OhNan prob.. [message #119802 is a reply to message #119800] Thu, 24 March 2011 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cbwoodsr is currently offline  cbwoodsr   United States
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Thats what I am trying to do..
How were they hooked up before?

CRS.


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Re: OhNan prob.. [message #119804 is a reply to message #119802] Thu, 24 March 2011 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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Ok, now I understand what happened. Need to look at mine but IIRC mine looked just like what Gene has on his site.

Bob de Kruyff
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Re: [GMCnet] OhNan prob.. [message #119826 is a reply to message #119799] Thu, 24 March 2011 15:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cbwoodsr is currently offline  cbwoodsr   United States
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here's the pic again
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=38036&title=onan-wires&cat=5701


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Re: [GMCnet] OhNan prob.. [message #119833 is a reply to message #119826] Thu, 24 March 2011 16:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi, Charles.

The wire at the top with the sleeve is the
one I have that is disconnected also and
PROBABLY hooks up to the disconnected
RED lead down on the block forward.

My other larger wire goes to the terminal
at the right (away from the fins).

It appears that you may have lost a contact
"doubler" which has one female to put onto
the left contact and two mail contacts to
accept the two remaining smaller wires.
Either that, or your left terminal which looks
as if it had been a double at one time has
had one part broken off.

It's hard to say because it appears your
unit is different from the one on my '76.

Mebbe ya oughta come by Merle's early
next week. Call and come by and pick
me up and we'll have a look-see.

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> here's the pic again
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=38036&title=onan-wires&cat=5701
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Re: [GMCnet] OhNan prob.. [message #119855 is a reply to message #119826] Thu, 24 March 2011 20:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CBWoodSR wrote on Thu, 24 March 2011 13:30

here's the pic again
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=38036&title=onan-wires&cat=5701


The connector on the top LOOKS like the feed to the FUEL PUMP or the fuel cut off solenoid. You say it starts so the pump is connected, has the solenoid been removed?

The other THREE wires look just like the the THREE wires going to the voltage regulators all three of my Onans.

I have only disconnected the regulator on one, but all I did was unplug and tape them up... separately.

I understand there are a couple of different wiring harnesses on the Onan. Some have the output of the flywheel alternator split in the harness, others have it split at the voltage regulator. If you have the second type, you'll have FOUR wires at the regulator... two connected to a clip that connects to the regulator. THESE two wires must be connected to provide the control board the AC "engine running" signal.


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Re: [GMCnet] OhNan prob.. [message #119889 is a reply to message #119855] Fri, 25 March 2011 07:03 Go to previous message
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The black wire is the fuel pump lead..
do you know which two wires need to be together of the 4 wires that I have?


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