| oil again [message #118793] |
Mon, 14 March 2011 13:13  |
fred v
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i went all over town today trying to find ci-4 or SL oil. looks like the auto parts stores are only selling SN now. i used to buy Walmart ChemTech high mileage 10W40 that was SL rated but now it is SN too. truck stop only has Rotella diesel rated SN.
so what do we do now?
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: oil again [message #118799 is a reply to message #118798] |
Mon, 14 March 2011 13:43  |
tphipps
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Wal-Mart has a brand labelled "Fleet Oil" that is still SM. Good luck. Tom
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: oil again [message #118824 is a reply to message #118793] |
Mon, 14 March 2011 17:46 |
fred v
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SM is not good from what i understand. we need SL or earlier.
i cannot use Mobil 1 as i use a qt. in 300 miles. gets too expensive.
i'll look for the Accel; didn't see it at the Wally mart i went to and i checked everything they had.
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] oil again [message #118826 is a reply to message #118824] |
Mon, 14 March 2011 18:00 |
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USAussie
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G'day,
Below is a message I sent in last year; I confirmed that the links still
work.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Rob Mueller
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:36 AM
To: Gmclist Temp
Subject: [GMCnet] ZDDP Additive Sources
G'day,
Here's some information on sources of ZDDP additives.
1) GM / Delco E.O.S.
Dosage: I can't find the dosage for a 5 quart oil change.
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/results.cfm?singlepart=1&partnumber=EOS
GM PART # EOS 88862586
OUR PRICE: $12.17
Cost per Ounce: $0.76
http://www.jegs.com/i/GM+Performance/809/88862586/10002/-1
GM Performance #809-88862586
Cam & Lifter Pre-Lube
16OZ $17.99 = $1.12 per ounce
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-88862586/
Price: $17.95
Cost per ounce: $1.12
2) Delco EOS
http://www.acdelco.com/html/pi_vehcare_lub.htm
Click on down arrow next to Select and highlight E.O.S. Assembly Lubricant.
Part 10-106
12371532
E.O.S. Assembly Lubricant (1 pint)
.Is specially formulated as an engine assembly lubricant .Provides
protection against run-in wear and piston scuffing .Is not recommended for
use as an additive for engine oil
2) ZDDPlus
Dosage: 1 four ounce bottle per 5-6 quart oil change.
http://www.davidnavone.com/zddplus.htm
Single 4oz Bottle of ZDDPlus $9.95 = $2.48 per ounce Five - 4oz Bottle of
ZDDPlus $47.50 = $2.37 per ounce
3) SFR-100
Dosage: 1 ounce per quart.
I bought a gallon of this stuff last year after I got the following
information from them:
QUESTION 1): Does SFR 100 contain ZDDP?
RESPONSE: Normal motor oil when it contained ZDDP averaged 300 ppm. SFR when
added at 3% or 1 ounce per quart of motor oil averages over 900 ppm. There
is over 30,000 ppm in SFR 100 concentrate.
QUESTION 2): How much SFR 100 should I add to 5 quarts of oil to get
1200-1400 PPM of ZDDP in oil that does not contain any ZDDP?
RESPONSE: I would add 1 1/2 ounces per quart or the recommended dosage for
first time use and 1 ounce per quart of motor oil with each and every oil
change.
QUESTION 3) Can I add too much SFR 100?
RESPONSE: You can use up to 10% or 3 ounces per quart. After that it is not
economical based on testing that we have run. You will get outstanding
results by using 1 1/2 ounces of SFR per quart of motor oil the first time,
and 1 ounce per quart of motor oil subsequent oil changes.
http://www.sfrcorp.com/product/sfr-100-petroleum-oil-fortifier
Size / SKU / Price
1 Quart Bottle / S34005 / $34.70 = $1.08 per ounce
1 Gallon Bottle with 1 oz. Pump / S34003 / $107.90 = $0.84 per ounce
5 Gallon Pail with 1 oz. Pump / S34002 / $467.00 =$0.72 per ounce
Regards,
Rob M.
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of fred veenschoten
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:46 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] oil again
SM is not good from what i understand. we need SL or earlier.
i cannot use Mobil 1 as i use a qt. in 300 miles. gets too expensive.
i'll look for the Accel; didn't see it at the Wally mart i went to and i
checked everything they had.
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Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] oil again [message #118827 is a reply to message #118826] |
Mon, 14 March 2011 18:23 |
Jim Galbavy
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Rob,
I have 12 pint bottles of the original EOS ASSEMBLY LUBRICANT(GM P/N 1052367). If anyone needs it or is interested I'll bring it to Bean Station. If not I'll keep it. It's payed for so I'm in no hurry.
There is currently an ad for this on e-bay with a starting bid of $200 (US) for six bottles. It is not my ad. He also says that you use 1/2 pint of EOS with an oil change. Those are his words, not mine.
jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Chesterfield, Va / LAKE MARY, FL
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| Re: oil again [message #118832 is a reply to message #118793] |
Mon, 14 March 2011 21:35 |
fred v
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i thought i read here that someone had come out with an "old engine" oil with additives we need so we don't have to mess with adding stuff.
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: oil again [message #118836 is a reply to message #118793] |
Mon, 14 March 2011 22:07 |
kingd
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Joe Gibbs Racing (as in Joe Gibbs the football coach and NASCAR team Owner) market(notice I don't say make, I presume they don't have a refinery) a line of oils including some with enough ZDDP for flat tappet engines. I believe both dino oils and synthetics. Not exactly inexpensive at the Toronto "Hot Rod" store.
DAVE KING
DAVE KING
lurker, wannabe
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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| Re: oil again [message #118841 is a reply to message #118832] |
Mon, 14 March 2011 22:36 |
jhb1
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Hi Fred
That is the stuff I was talking about Accel 10W-40 SF grade from Walmart
John H. Bell
77 Royale; QuadBag,Manny OneTon,Honda EV4010, FITech
Montreal Qc.
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| Re: [GMCnet] oil again [message #118899 is a reply to message #118893] |
Tue, 15 March 2011 15:37 |
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hnielsen2
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Then its back to how much do you want to spend to save your engines?
If you have a $1.00 engine then buy a $1.00 can of oil.
Back to the old Bell Helmet storey $10.00 head?
Then buy a $10.00 helmet!
Look in the Sunday paper for saver coupons.
You may get lucky!
Howard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Garton" <ceg777@earthlink.net>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] oil again
O'Reilly Auto Parts stocks Mobil 1 15W50. Bad news, its around $7.00 per
quart.
Chuck Garton
77 Kingaley 455
Ridgecrest, CA
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Howard and Sue <hnielsen2@cox.net> wrote:
> I know
> That is why I add Lucas engine start up to my oil changes.
> Thanks
> Howard
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MICHAEL FOSTER" <mfoster356@yahoo.com>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] oil again
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>> Howard said "Mobil 1 cost me $5.00 a quart at Costco with the coupon."
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>> Howard I check my local costco all the time for mobile one and have never
>> seen the 15-50. They have all the modern oils such as 5-30 etc., but
>> never 15-50.
>>
>> Michael
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| Re: [GMCnet] oil again [message #118917 is a reply to message #118904] |
Tue, 15 March 2011 19:17 |
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USAussie
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Larry,
I'm with you!
I bought Royal Purple SAE40W Synthetic for Double Trouble to see if it would
reduce the amount of oil it burns. It cost me about the same if not more. I
intend to change it at the end of our yearly tours which run 4-5 thousand
miles when Double Trouble goes into hibernation.
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 8:51 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] oil again
if you count all of the time and parts, and money that I have in my motor,
$7/qt is a grain of sand on a beach. Thats $42 every 3K miles. If that's
what I gotta pay to keep from doing another engine...especially off in the
boondocks somewhere...NO CONTEST!! I run 20w50 Amzoil or 15w50 mobile one.
Both have what we need. JWID
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Larry :)
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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