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| Re: possible new power source? [message #118499 is a reply to message #118498] |
Sat, 12 March 2011 01:56   |
Larry C
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http://www.metacafe.com/watch/335674/water_fueled_torch/
Maybe we will all be running our GMC's on water in the future.
Michael
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I have beleived that there might be a future for hydrogen technology but this board is not so friendly to it.
The current problem I see, is first, it takes quite a bit of power to crack hydrogen from water. I would guess it would have to have its own alternator just for the fuel.
The other problem is safety. Most hydrogen crackers make the hydrogen with the oxygen gas mixed in. When there is oxygen in with the gas, the danger of explosion is IMINENT! A back fire will travel through the hose back to the device cracking and blow up.
If they can get the power usage down and build enough gas to power a GMC motorhome AND, supply the gas WITHOUT the oxygen mix to eliminate the danger of explosion, then we might be talking.
I have played with this off and on, and there is a lot of videos about this on Utube. There are a couple that claim to run engines also but we are not there yet.
Strange how when the fuel sources start to tighten up, the inverters wake up and technology moves on..........
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| Re: possible new power source? [message #118502 is a reply to message #118499] |
Sat, 12 March 2011 05:31 |
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| Larry C wrote on Sat, 12 March 2011 01:56 |
Strange how when the fuel sources start to tighten up, the inverters wake up and technology moves on..........
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But the frauds and the hoaxers wake up more.
Behind those gullable tv reporters there's usually a pretty smart guy in the truck laughing his a$$ off.
Dave & Ellen Silva
Hertford, NC
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Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
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| Re: possible new power source? [message #118527 is a reply to message #118502] |
Sat, 12 March 2011 10:21 |
Larry C
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This is true, but there have been more than one person claim to have the " secret "... Time will tell if something like this can really save the US from reverting to horse and carriage and the pollution that comes with it.
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| Re: [GMCnet] possible new power source? [message #118540 is a reply to message #118527] |
Sat, 12 March 2011 14:08 |
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Larry,
There have been lots of inventions that have come along over the years to
save gasoline. I seem to remember reading about a carburetor that got 100
miles per gallon.
The gasoline companies bought the patent and destroyed it and that's just
what they'll do to anything that comes along until they develop it!
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
PS - Ha Ha!
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This is true, but there have been more than one person claim to have the "
secret "... Time will tell if something like this can really save the US
from reverting to horse and carriage and the pollution that comes with it.
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| Re: [GMCnet] possible new power source? [message #119112 is a reply to message #118542] |
Thu, 17 March 2011 14:24 |
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It IS possible to crack water into hydrogen and oxygen just using the sun.
Plants do it all the time. We are working hard on doing it ourselves. But it looks like it involves quantum mechanics and quantum charge pumping or / and other very exotic and not understood phenomenon.
It does not involve magic carburetors or electrolysis.
It involves science and physics, advanced quantum physics.
Which might as well be magic to the average human.
Keith Vasilakes
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| Re: [GMCnet] possible new power source? [message #119135 is a reply to message #119112] |
Thu, 17 March 2011 21:30 |
fred v
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| Keith V wrote on Thu, 17 March 2011 14:24 |
It IS possible to crack water into hydrogen and oxygen just using the sun.
Plants do it all the time. We are working hard on doing it ourselves. But it looks like it involves quantum mechanics and quantum charge pumping or / and other very exotic and not understood phenomenon.
It does not involve magic carburetors or electrolysis.
It involves science and physics, advanced quantum physics.
Which might as well be magic to the average human.
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hey, they just did it on a massive scale in Japan this week.
Fred V
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P'cola, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] possible new power source? [message #119161 is a reply to message #119158] |
Fri, 18 March 2011 09:46 |
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Musta missed that one when I went to school, probably at a kegger with some
willing YL instead of attending a boring lecture. Who would have thought
that years later, I would have need of the critical thinking skills the
Clarke example was supposed to awaken in the dim recesses of my mind. Oh
well, if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with Bull S**it.
<Grin>
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Hardie Johnson <hardie.j@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Keith V wrote on Thu, 17 March 2011 15:24
> > <>It involves science and physics, advanced quantum physics.
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> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws
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| Re: [GMCnet] possible new power source? [message #119170 is a reply to message #119161] |
Fri, 18 March 2011 11:09 |
Keith V
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| James Hupy wrote on Fri, 18 March 2011 09:46 |
Musta missed that one when I went to school, probably at a kegger with some
willing YL instead of attending a boring lecture. Who would have thought
that years later, I would have need of the critical thinking skills the
Clarke example was supposed to awaken in the dim recesses of my mind. Oh
well, if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with Bull S**it.
<Grin>
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Hardie Johnson <hardie.j@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Keith V wrote on Thu, 17 March 2011 15:24
> > <>It involves science and physics, advanced quantum physics.
> > Which might as well be magic to the average human.
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> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws
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I think that unless you are currently in a PHD program in just the right field this is new news...
I know when I went to school, photosynthesis was a big circle with words to the effect of magic happens here
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| Re: [GMCnet] possible new power source? [message #119201 is a reply to message #119161] |
Fri, 18 March 2011 20:16 |
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| James Hupy wrote on Fri, 18 March 2011 07:46 |
Musta missed that one when I went to school, ....
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Kinda depends on when you where in school.
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And we are talking about the third law.
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| Re: [GMCnet] possible new power source? [message #120962 is a reply to message #119150] |
Tue, 05 April 2011 13:05 |
Jim Miller
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On Mar 18, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Matt Colie wrote:
> What has happened there is the water in spent fuel pool is using the
> elevated temperature to attack and corrode the cadmium cladding on
> the fuel rods.
Hi Matt,
Fuel rods for this type of reactor use a zirconium alloy cladding, not
cadmium, to enclose the fuel pellets.
Cadmium has a large thermal neutron cross section. You would not want
it surrounding your fuel pellets otherwise neutrons could not get at
the fuel to induce fission events. It does, however (along with boron)
make a great control rod material.
Zirconium has many properties which make it useful for nuclear fuel
assemblies but as we saw at Three Mile Island and now in Japan, at
temperatures around 800-900C it begins reacting rapidly with water to
form zirconium oxide and hydrogen.
TMI cost $1B in 1980s dollars just to clean out the reactor vessel and
decon parts of the containment and auxiliary buildings; the rest of
the plant is still there in "monitored storage" waiting to be
decommissioned. The Japanese will have a much larger project on their
hands with three ruined reactors, the damage to the spent fuel pools
plus all the other contamination in and around the site.
--Jim Miller
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1977 Royale
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| Re: [GMCnet] possible new power source? [message #121045 is a reply to message #120962] |
Wed, 06 April 2011 08:17 |
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They were saying that reactors 1, 2, 3 and 4 are JUNK and are beyond saving.
I don't know what happened to 5 and 6 because they were dumping salt water in them too.
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