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Tue, 08 March 2011 19:43  |
Chr$
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OK, I've lived with no tank level sensors long enough. Well, three outings, anyway.
I like the analog gauges the coach came with, but the "fuel tank senders" are not what I believe are the right solution. Metal rusting in my fresh water tank, and poo fouling up the one in the black tank. I long ago removed their carcasses. The industrial solutions from Ryan Herco are too expensive and unknown.
Anyone have these?
http://www.modmyrv.com/2009/01/12/rv-holding-tank-monitor-system
This article lends credence to the weakness of the well nut systems.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
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| Re: See Level Tank Monitors [message #118107 is a reply to message #118106] |
Tue, 08 March 2011 19:54  |
Bob de Kruyff
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| Chr$ wrote on Tue, 08 March 2011 18:43 |
OK, I've lived with no tank level sensors long enough. Well, three outings, anyway.
I like the analog gauges the coach came with, but the "fuel tank senders" are not what I believe are the right solution. Metal rusting in my fresh water tank, and poo fouling up the one in the black tank. I long ago removed their carcasses. The industrial solutions from Ryan Herco are too expensive and unknown.
Anyone have these?
http://www.modmyrv.com/2009/01/12/rv-holding-tank-monitor-system
This article lends credence to the weakness of the well nut systems.
I don't have that brand but I have a similar system for fresh as well as black water. It also measures propane and battery voltage by traditional methods. It works flawlessly and in my mind is the only way to go.
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Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: See Level Tank Monitors [message #118120 is a reply to message #118106] |
Tue, 08 March 2011 20:47 |
Chr$
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Yeah, capacitive. My worry is they may be just as flakey on the poop tank due to the "things" that stick to the walls, plus it is probably rotomolded so the wall thickness varies. Now my fresh tank, well that is mad out of 3/4 sheet polypro. should work like a champ on that one... unless there are condensation drops. I have capacitive sensors on equipment, and they can be flakey too.
Bob, you posted a blank post...
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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| Re: See Level Tank Monitors [message #118138 is a reply to message #118133] |
Tue, 08 March 2011 21:47 |
Carl S.
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I think Ferguson had those monitors or something similar, on his coach. Maybe he will chime in here. As I recall, he liked them.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: See Level Tank Monitors [message #118183 is a reply to message #118136] |
Wed, 09 March 2011 10:04 |
Chr$
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The one Bounds (and Kanotomata) sell is the 0 - 1/3 - 2/3 - Full variety. I want percentages. (Sorry, I'm an engineer) 
| Dennis S wrote on Tue, 08 March 2011 20:46 |
| Chr$ wrote on Tue, 08 March 2011 19:43 |
OK, I've lived with no tank level sensors long enough. Well, three outings, anyway.
I like the analog gauges the coach came with, but the "fuel tank senders" are not what I believe are the right solution. Metal rusting in my fresh water tank, and poo fouling up the one in the black tank. I long ago removed their carcasses. The industrial solutions from Ryan Herco are too expensive and unknown.
Anyone have these?
http://www.modmyrv.com/2009/01/12/rv-holding-tank-monitor-system
This article lends credence to the weakness of the well nut systems.
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Chris
See Jim Bounds Coop article...
http://gmccoop.com/systems_monitor.htm
Dennis
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-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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| Re: [GMCnet] See Level Tank Monitors [message #118184 is a reply to message #118183] |
Wed, 09 March 2011 10:07 |
James Hupy
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Why don't you guys solve the electrical problems and install a float type
gage similar to what a piper cub or a model A ford had on cowl mounted gas
tanks. The float operates in a tube so that it moves up and down. The top of
the float has an inverse dipstick that you can calibrate any way you like.
The higher it floats, the more crap you have.<Grin>
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Chris Choffat <cchoffataz@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> The one Bounds (and Kanotomata) sell is the 0 - 1/3 - 2/3 - Full variety. I
> want percentages. (Sorry, I'm an engineer) :lol:
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> Dennis S wrote on Tue, 08 March 2011 20:46
> > Chr$ wrote on Tue, 08 March 2011 19:43
> > > OK, I've lived with no tank level sensors long enough. Well, three
> outings, anyway.
> > >
> > > I like the analog gauges the coach came with, but the "fuel tank
> senders" are not what I believe are the right solution. Metal rusting in my
> fresh water tank, and poo fouling up the one in the black tank. I long ago
> removed their carcasses. The industrial solutions from Ryan Herco are too
> expensive and unknown.
> > >
> > > Anyone have these?
> > >
> > > http://www.modmyrv.com/2009/01/12/rv-holding-tank-monitor-system
> > >
> > > This article lends credence to the weakness of the well nut systems.
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > See Jim Bounds Coop article...
> >
> > http://gmccoop.com/systems_monitor.htm
> >
> > Dennis
>
>
> --
> -Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
> 77 Ex-Kingsley 455, Power Drive, 3:21 FD, Quadra bag. The Engineer's
> Motorhome
> Scottsdale, AZ
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| Re: See Level Tank Monitors [message #118191 is a reply to message #118120] |
Wed, 09 March 2011 10:59 |
Bob de Kruyff
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Another blank--darn it. Chris, I have a capacitive system in my coach and it has worked flawlessly for close to 20 years since I have owned the coach. Absolutely works all the time with no false readings.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: See Level Tank Monitors [message #118196 is a reply to message #118106] |
Wed, 09 March 2011 11:51 |
captjack
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I've got a stainless steel fresh water tank. I'd be surprised if any of these work on it apart from drilling holes and using well-nuts. Has anyone had success with a metal tank?
Jack Christensen - K6ROW,
'76 Glenbrook/Clasco - "The Silver Bullet",
Sebastopol, CA
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| Re: See Level Tank Monitors [message #118214 is a reply to message #118107] |
Wed, 09 March 2011 15:13 |
jknezek
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| Bob de Kruyff wrote on Tue, 08 March 2011 20:54 |
| Chr$ wrote on Tue, 08 March 2011 18:43 |
OK, I've lived with no tank level sensors long enough. Well, three outings, anyway.
I like the analog gauges the coach came with, but the "fuel tank senders" are not what I believe are the right solution. Metal rusting in my fresh water tank, and poo fouling up the one in the black tank. I long ago removed their carcasses. The industrial solutions from Ryan Herco are too expensive and unknown.
Anyone have these?
http://www.modmyrv.com/2009/01/12/rv-holding-tank-monitor-system
This article lends credence to the weakness of the well nut systems.
I don't have that brand but I have a similar system for fresh as well as black water. It also measures propane and battery voltage by traditional methods. It works flawlessly and in my mind is the only way to go.
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Bob -- your message wasn't blank, you just put the quotes in the wrong spot. You typed inside the quoted area so it looks like your two line comment:
I don't have that brand but I have a similar system for fresh as well as black water. It also measures propane and battery voltage by traditional methods. It works flawlessly and in my mind is the only way to go.
was part of the prior message. When using the "quote" option on the message board, type your own response AFTER the bracketed /quote designation in the message space. Otherwise you appear to be part of the quoted text. I've done it a few times when editing a prior message. Usually I delete that last bracketed /quote and then the message formatting includes it automatically, putting my response as part of the original message quoted and making it look like you sent a blank. If you accidentally delete the bracketed /quote just type it back before you start your response. Make sure to include the brackets [] around it. I can't do it in the message space or else it will assume I'm quoting things I'm really trying to explain!
Now that it's clear as mud, let me know if you have questions.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: See Level Tank Monitors [message #118609 is a reply to message #118106] |
Sat, 12 March 2011 22:12 |
Chr$
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I got a reply from the mfg, and they say the max thickness is 3/8" on the tank. That means I need to router a groove in my water tank, as it is 1/2" (or 3/4" cannot remember) thick...
If I opt to use a "sub tank" it needs to be at least 4" wide.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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