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Dahsboard Doughnut replacement [message #117881] Mon, 07 March 2011 14:37 Go to next message
cbwoodsr is currently offline  cbwoodsr   United States
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We can get a new insert and a back cover, but is there a new doughnut available??



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Re: Dahsboard Doughnut replacement [message #117882 is a reply to message #117881] Mon, 07 March 2011 14:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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I wish...

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Re: Dahsboard Doughnut replacement [message #117886 is a reply to message #117881] Mon, 07 March 2011 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Frank Jenkins in Florida has an entire dash available that includes the instrument pod (at least it looks like it in his photos on the website), but I don't think anyone has done a replacement. I can't really imagine that one couldn't be replicated in fiberglass (or a combination of a metal instrument panel with a fiberglass surround that could be covered as one likes. If the dash fascia is available with CNC machined cutouts for the instruments, it should not be all that big a job to modify the program to allow an entire dash plate to be created. Then the outer ring could be recreated in fiberglass quite easily I would think.

This may give Mike Bozardt (or any other supplier) another project to work on!


George Rudawsky
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Re: Dahsboard Doughnut replacement [message #117977 is a reply to message #117881] Tue, 08 March 2011 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can't you replace the missing foam with the expanding foam and shape it then cover it??

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Re: Dahsboard Doughnut replacement [message #117985 is a reply to message #117977] Tue, 08 March 2011 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cbwoodsr is currently offline  cbwoodsr   United States
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I can't, but someone else probably could if they could be identified...

My covering IS all its cracked up to be..


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Re: Dahsboard Doughnut replacement [message #118053 is a reply to message #117881] Tue, 08 March 2011 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Craig Lechowicz is currently offline  Craig Lechowicz   United States
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Depending on how much time and money you have, you could send it down to Jim Bounds in Orlando. Reading his blog occasionally, it sounds like he's the master at re-covering them.

Craig Lechowicz
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Re: Dahsboard Doughnut replacement [message #118066 is a reply to message #117881] Tue, 08 March 2011 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is anyone making or intending to make the plastic support cage? Hopefully not out of plastic! They are all crispy critters by now. If I try to fix mine, it will be a patch next to a patch.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: Dashboard Doughnut replacement [message #118072 is a reply to message #118066] Tue, 08 March 2011 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gmchunter is currently offline  gmchunter   United States
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Regarding the dash support for guages:

John asked "Is anyone making or intending to make the plastic support cage?

I am wondering about this too! The lower edge of mine is broken into several pieces, some missing, so it can't be glued.

Maybe there is not enough money in producing something so simple?



Michael

Re: [GMCnet] Dahsboard Doughnut replacement [message #118080 is a reply to message #118066] Tue, 08 March 2011 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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G'day,

IIRC Emery did "something" with the support.

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Rob M.
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Is anyone making or intending to make the plastic support cage? Hopefully
not out of plastic! They are all crispy critters by now. If I try to fix
mine, it will be a patch next to a patch.
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Re: [GMCnet] Dashboard Doughnut replacement [message #118082 is a reply to message #118072] Tue, 08 March 2011 17:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Should be easy enough to do... assuming I had a spare part to measure.

Laser cut the main parts and rivet or spotweld them together. I have a
great sheetmetal shop that does stuff for me. The laser cut parts are
spectacularly accurate.

There might be "formed" parts to it that would make this difficult. At
the very least someone should sent me 5-6 pictures of one that they have
out. See if it's really feasible to do it this way.

Mine is pretty crunchy, too, but not enough that I though I should
replace it.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showfull.php?photo=24691

Kelvin

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> Regarding the dash support for guages:
>
> John asked "Is anyone making or intending to make the plastic support cage?
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> I am wondering about this too! The lower edge of mine is broken into several pieces, some missing, so it can't be glued.
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> Maybe there is not enough money in producing something so simple?
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Re: [GMCnet] Dashboard Doughnut replacement [message #118089 is a reply to message #118082] Tue, 08 March 2011 18:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Kelvin, I have been thinking about the fragile dash for a long time. I have
considerable experience making model ariplanes. Some of them use molded or
injection molded foam wing cores that are overlaid with carbon fibre epoxy
cloth. When that is cured it is amazingly strong and impact resistant. The
"horse collar" could easily be made from that pink closed cell foam
available from the Depot's glued together for thickness and cut with a hot
wire. Makes a very smooth cut. Final sanded to pleasant shape and finally
overlaid with carbon fiber cloth saturated with epoxy resin. Could finally
be covered with nauga skins or leather of your choice. Same technique for
the dash pad. The underlying metal stuff you are already familiar with.
Those plastic ribs that extend from the top of the sub dash to the
windshield could easily be duplicated in small diameter tubing. A defroster
plenum could be fabricated from fibreglas or aluminum and the ribs could
attatch to that. There is some material that custom rod interior shops use
for trunk liner that can be heated and bent to any shape and should suffice
for the removable part of the top dash. Materials are cheap except for the
carbon fibre cloth and epoxy resin. Our labor ain't worth squat when we are
paying ourselves, probably measured in BPH. (That is beer's per hour) <Grin>
What have you got to add to this idea?
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
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On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:29 PM, KRDietz <krdietz@gmail.com> wrote:

> Should be easy enough to do... assuming I had a spare part to measure.
>
> Laser cut the main parts and rivet or spotweld them together. I have a
> great sheetmetal shop that does stuff for me. The laser cut parts are
> spectacularly accurate.
>
> There might be "formed" parts to it that would make this difficult. At
> the very least someone should sent me 5-6 pictures of one that they have
> out. See if it's really feasible to do it this way.
>
> Mine is pretty crunchy, too, but not enough that I though I should
> replace it.
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showfull.php?photo=24691
>
> Kelvin
>
> >
> > Regarding the dash support for guages:
> >
> > John asked "Is anyone making or intending to make the plastic support
> cage?
> >
> > I am wondering about this too! The lower edge of mine is broken into
> several pieces, some missing, so it can't be glued.
> >
> > Maybe there is not enough money in producing something so simple?
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
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Re: [GMCnet] Dashboard Doughnut replacement [message #118126 is a reply to message #118072] Tue, 08 March 2011 21:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Call me a heretic, but I think y'all are wasting your time fooling with 35
year old plastic. It's lost most of its plasticizers (the stuff that keeps
it soft, pliable, and structurally sound) and will continue to lose more of
it. All the bandaids in the world won't correct that significantly. The
only hope for a truly satisfactory solution is complete replacement.

It's not nearly as difficult as one thinks at first blush: Once the old
stuff is out of the way, it's surprisingly easy to replace the original
design with one of your own. It can be as simple or complex as you're
willing and able to make it. My design probably wouldn't suit many other
people, but SHE and I are VERY satisfied with it, despite a few shortcomings
we've discovered. It's an ENORMOUS improvement over the decrepit original
in appearance and functionality, in our opinions. And it was neither
difficult, expensive, nor very time consuming to design and build.

Don't leave complete custom replacement out of the options you consider.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4899

Ken H.
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On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:55 PM, MICHAEL FOSTER <mfoster356@yahoo.com> wrote:

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>
> Regarding the dash support for guages:
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> John asked "Is anyone making or intending to make the plastic support cage?
>
> I am wondering about this too! The lower edge of mine is broken into
> several pieces, some missing, so it can't be glued.
>
> Maybe there is not enough money in producing something so simple?
>
>
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> Michael
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Re: [GMCnet] Dashboard Doughnut replacement [message #118215 is a reply to message #118126] Wed, 09 March 2011 15:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Call me a heretic, but I think y'all are wasting your time fooling with 35 year old plastic.
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That makes it more valuable, doesn't it?
Think I saw Fred Flintstone paddling his feet along in one of these with Barney Rubble pushing behind.

Nice computer mount Ken. If I did not need the big computer screen to see the road Rolling Eyes might be an idea to consider.

Man, I still get nervous looking at those pictures...
I hope my Jurassic Park Plastic holds together, I'd go crazy trying to do that, much less to design a dash that would work.. Oh my gosh.....

Looks good Ken, how many BPH ( beers per hour ) did it take to finish???



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Re: Dahsboard Doughnut replacement [message #118263 is a reply to message #117881] Wed, 09 March 2011 22:03 Go to previous message
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My work takes me to a custom shop in Elkhart IN.tomorrow and they do custom plastic parts for upfitting transport coaches etc. I'll see if this is something they could tackle. On the old one, if you patch it, it breaks in a new spot until it is all a patch. Plastic has give up all it's VOCs it has to give and there aint no more.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
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