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Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do with this 'thing' that
someone gave me this afternoon?
It's a Red-Line generator DA12A-500A
If you go here: http://www.rediline.com/
and look around, there is more info, and it saves me the trouble of typing a
number of words about the 'thing' which I know nothing about. The
"Installation Guide" gives a lot of information...I think <g>
So what can I do with it...does it have Any application on my GMC??
Thanks folks
Mike in NS
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| Re: [GMCnet] What can I do with this item???? [message #117289 is a reply to message #117287] |
Wed, 02 March 2011 21:46  |
Ken Henderson
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MIke,
That device will do the same thing a $30 inverter will do while occupying
several times the space and weighing 26 pounds instead of maybe 2-3. It
will be noisier because it's really a DC motor turning an ac generator
rather than being an all electronic device. It will, however, provide nice,
clean, pure sine wave power. It's not big enough to drive a microwave, but
if you want a nice clean TV picture, it should not interfere.
I personally wouldn't waste time finding room for it in my GMC.
Ken H.
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com>wrote:
> Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do with this 'thing' that
> someone gave me this afternoon?
>
> It's a Red-Line generator DA12A-500A
>
> If you go here: http://www.rediline.com/
> and look around, there is more info, and it saves me the trouble of typing
> a
> number of words about the 'thing' which I know nothing about. The
> "Installation Guide" gives a lot of information...I think <g>
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] What can I do with this item???? [message #117290 is a reply to message #117287] |
Wed, 02 March 2011 21:51 |
midlf
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| Kingsley Coach wrote on Wed, 02 March 2011 21:29 |
Netters
Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do with this 'thing' that
someone gave me this afternoon?
It's a Red-Line generator DA12A-500A
If you go here: http://www.rediline.com/
and look around, there is more info, and it saves me the trouble of typing a
number of words about the 'thing' which I know nothing about. The
"Installation Guide" gives a lot of information...I think <g>
So what can I do with it...does it have Any application on my GMC??
Thanks folks
Mike in NS
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It is an electro-mechanical inverter. Does the same thing as an electronic inverter. It is a DC motor, AC generator combination. However it does put out a pure sine wave and has a good overload rating. It probably might have better resistance to transient voltages and loads.
For free it is a good thing to have. I would suggest you not install it on your GMC. Send it to me and I will properly dispose of it.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] What can I do with this item???? [message #117292 is a reply to message #117289] |
Wed, 02 March 2011 21:54 |
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Now I can quit scratching my head and wondering why this thing is so "great"
and thinking that 500 watts is "commercial power". Marketing hype looking
for a sucker.
So, if you need to run a 1/4-inch drill off and on for 15 minutes from your
pickup truck, go for it. Otherwise, it seems like 1940's technology.
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Byron Songer
1978 GMC Royale
Louisville, KY
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Ken Henderson wrote:
> MIke,
>
> That device will do the same thing a $30 inverter will do while occupying
> several times the space and weighing 26 pounds instead of maybe 2-3. It
> will be noisier because it's really a DC motor turning an ac generator
> rather than being an all electronic device. It will, however, provide nice,
> clean, pure sine wave power. It's not big enough to drive a microwave, but
> if you want a nice clean TV picture, it should not interfere.
>
> I personally wouldn't waste time finding room for it in my GMC.
>
> Ken H.
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> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do with this 'thing' that
>> someone gave me this afternoon?
>>
>> It's a Red-Line generator DA12A-500A
>>
>> If you go here: http://www.rediline.com/
>> and look around, there is more info, and it saves me the trouble of typing
>> a
>> number of words about the 'thing' which I know nothing about. The
>> "Installation Guide" gives a lot of information...I think <g>
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] What can I do with this item???? [message #117297 is a reply to message #117292] |
Wed, 02 March 2011 22:15 |
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| Byron Songer wrote on Wed, 02 March 2011 21:54 |
Now I can quit scratching my head and wondering why this thing is so "great"
and thinking that 500 watts is "commercial power". Marketing hype looking
for a sucker.
So, if you need to run a 1/4-inch drill off and on for 15 minutes from your
pickup truck, go for it. Otherwise, it seems like 1940's technology.
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Byron Songer
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Other than the electronic starting circuit it is most assuredly pre 1940's tech. I suspect the main market for this is for those that have had some kind of problem with an electronic inverter such as failures, waveform problems, or just don't understand how they can work and want some good ole fashion iron solution to the problem.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] What can I do with this item???? [message #117298 is a reply to message #117287] |
Wed, 02 March 2011 22:20 |
Adrien G.
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Michael,
It's a motor inverter- 12vdc to 120vac- for the MH, power tools in the field. If your not on shore power or gen, this can provide another way to have a limited amount of 120vac power.
It's not as quiet, it's heavier, and bulkier then the solid state inverter are, and I don't think it's as efficient, the loss to run the motor.
I'm sure that other with more expertise in this type of inverter will chime in with better info then I can.
Adrien & Jenny Genesoto
75 Glenbrook (26-3) Mods LS3.70 FD / Reaction Sys / 80mm Front&Intermidiate / Hydroboost / 16" Tires / Frame Rebuild / Interior Rebuild
Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6
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| Re: [GMCnet] What can I do with this item???? [message #117301 is a reply to message #117292] |
Wed, 02 March 2011 22:51 |
Kingsley Coach
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Gentlemen
Thank you for your advice, but I have decided to use it as a paper weight to
hold down the receipts for my recent interior renovation of my Kingsley!
Mike in NS
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Byron Songer
<bsonger@songerconsulting.net>wrote:
> Now I can quit scratching my head and wondering why this thing is so
> "great"
> and thinking that 500 watts is "commercial power". Marketing hype looking
> for a sucker.
>
> So, if you need to run a 1/4-inch drill off and on for 15 minutes from your
> pickup truck, go for it. Otherwise, it seems like 1940's technology.
>
> --
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> Byron Songer
> 1978 GMC Royale
> Louisville, KY
> http://www.gmceast.com
> http://web.me.com/bnsonger
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> Ken Henderson wrote:
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> > MIke,
> >
> > That device will do the same thing a $30 inverter will do while occupying
> > several times the space and weighing 26 pounds instead of maybe 2-3. It
> > will be noisier because it's really a DC motor turning an ac generator
> > rather than being an all electronic device. It will, however, provide
> nice,
> > clean, pure sine wave power. It's not big enough to drive a microwave,
> but
> > if you want a nice clean TV picture, it should not interfere.
> >
> > I personally wouldn't waste time finding room for it in my GMC.
> >
> > Ken H.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do with this 'thing' that
> >> someone gave me this afternoon?
> >>
> >> It's a Red-Line generator DA12A-500A
> >>
> >> If you go here: http://www.rediline.com/
> >> and look around, there is more info, and it saves me the trouble of
> typing
> >> a
> >> number of words about the 'thing' which I know nothing about. The
> >> "Installation Guide" gives a lot of information...I think <g>
> >>
> >>
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| Re: [GMCnet] What can I do with this item???? [message #117308 is a reply to message #117298] |
Wed, 02 March 2011 23:49 |
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As others have stated it is an MG (Motor Generator) set. I worked one lot of them in a previous life as an electrician in the steel mills. I have never seen one that small except in the old Motorola 80-D tube type 2 way radios. They had one inside the radio that came up to speed every time you pressed the transmit button. That one supplied the high voltage for the transmitting tubes.
The one you have probably draws 45 to 50 amps at 12 volts DC to put out 500 watts at 120 volt AC. I do not know what it's efficiency is. It probably is press good. A good indication of it's efficiency would be to check to see how warm it gets in use. Modern inverters are also not all that efficient.
It should put out nice clean sine waves. On some of the ones I use to work on we climbed inside them once a week to clean the insulators and check the brushes on the slip rings.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] What can I do with this item???? [message #117310 is a reply to message #117287] |
Wed, 02 March 2011 23:59 |
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What the guys all said is true. It's benefit is clean power, as some inverters put out a "modified sine wave" which is not good for motors, and other electronic stuff. They show it being used with a power drill. good use for it... It really belongs on a maintenance truck.
We use much larger ones in the semi industry to isolate power sources. Those use a fiberglass drive shaft to isolate high energy ion sources.
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Scottsdale, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] What can I do with this item???? [message #117318 is a reply to message #117287] |
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| Kingsley Coach wrote on Wed, 02 March 2011 19:29 |
Netters
Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do with this 'thing' that
someone gave me this afternoon?
It's a Red-Line generator DA12A-500A
If you go here: http://www.rediline.com/
and look around, there is more info, and it saves me the trouble of typing a
number of words about the 'thing' which I know nothing about. The
"Installation Guide" gives a lot of information...I think <g>
So what can I do with it...does it have Any application on my GMC??
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I does have a use but it is not really something that most people need in their GMC. (If you where one who could use it, you would already know.)
I would put it on Craigslist or something. Someone who NEEDS really good clean AC power from battery power will love to have it. Many motors, some radios and the like.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] What can I do with this item???? [message #117324 is a reply to message #117318] |
Thu, 03 March 2011 06:07 |
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Thanks again guys !
Mike
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Kingsley Coach wrote on Wed, 02 March 2011 19:29
> > Netters
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> > Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do with this 'thing' that
> > someone gave me this afternoon?
> >
> > It's a Red-Line generator DA12A-500A
> >
> > If you go here: http://www.rediline.com/
> > and look around, there is more info, and it saves me the trouble of
> typing a
> > number of words about the 'thing' which I know nothing about. The
> > "Installation Guide" gives a lot of information...I think <g>
> >
> >
> > So what can I do with it...does it have Any application on my GMC??
>
>
> I does have a use but it is not really something that most people need in
> their GMC. (If you where one who could use it, you would already know.)
>
> I would put it on Craigslist or something. Someone who NEEDS really good
> clean AC power from battery power will love to have it. Many motors, some
> radios and the like.
> --
> Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
> '73 26' exPainted D. -- `78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- `77 23' Birchaven
> Side Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] What can I do with this item???? [message #117328 is a reply to message #117326] |
Thu, 03 March 2011 07:22 |
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Might there be some application for the motor? Seems like a 3/4 hp 12 motor might be useful, maybe to run a hydraulic pump ?
Dave & Ellen Silva
Hertford, NC
76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
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