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Onan heads decarbon [message #116018] Mon, 21 February 2011 19:41 Go to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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My 73 Painted Desert, 23ft, has a 4kw Onan -- no hour meter but appears to have had low hours -- I thought it ran very well and rather quietly. This weekend however I replaced a few gaskets, did some cleaning and decided to decarbon the heads.
The first one did not look too bad, but the second one had a lot of build up. I did the work at the mini-storage lot, scraping first and then using a soft brass brush in a battery powered hand drill. I was very pleased with the results -- runs even more quietly, and very steady -- the small bit of vibration that I previously could feel while in the back of the coach was gone.

Pertronix in the near future -- will be interesting to see how much smoother it can be.

Just fyi.

Dennis


Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
Re: [GMCnet] Onan heads decarbon [message #116023 is a reply to message #116018] Mon, 21 February 2011 20:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dennis,

Thanks for the heads up on the cleaning, I can ga-ron-tee you WILL be amazed
how much smoother the Pertronix makes the Onan run.

See my albums for the VW style, Ken H.'s for the "other" style. NOTHING is
meant by me using the term "other" I just didn't know what unit it was for
and I'm too bloody lazy to find out. ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Subject: [GMCnet] Onan heads decarbon

My 73 Painted Desert, 23ft, has a 4kw Onan -- no hour meter but appears to
have had low hours -- I thought it ran very well and rather quietly. This
weekend however I replaced a few gaskets, did some cleaning and decided to
decarbon the heads.
The first one did not look too bad, but the second one had a lot of build
up. I did the work at the mini-storage lot, scraping first and then using a
soft brass brush in a battery powered hand drill. I was very pleased with
the results -- runs even more quietly, and very steady -- the small bit of
vibration that I previously could feel while in the back of the coach was
gone.

Pertronix in the near future -- will be interesting to see how much smoother
it can be.

Just fyi.

Dennis
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Re: Onan heads decarbon [message #116024 is a reply to message #116018] Mon, 21 February 2011 20:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A few years back I did everything I could think of to get the Onan to run smooth. I fought the problem for over a year. Then I saw the label on the Onan that said to de-carbonize the heads every 200 hours. I did it and the Onan has run beautifully ever since. I did it the same way you did with a brass brush on an Dremel. After I put it back together, Steve F. suggested using a bead blaster to clean them. If I ever have to do it again that is what I'll use.

Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Onan heads decarbon [message #116026 is a reply to message #116023] Mon, 21 February 2011 21:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Rob,

Yes, I have looked over your album and KenH's as well as several others in considering the Pertronix.
Hard to believe my Onan could be much smoother but I an eager to proceed.

Thanks,
Dennis

Robert Mueller wrote on Mon, 21 February 2011 20:46

Dennis,

Thanks for the heads up on the cleaning, I can ga-ron-tee you WILL be amazed
how much smoother the Pertronix makes the Onan run.

See my albums for the VW style, Ken H.'s for the "other" style. NOTHING is
meant by me using the term "other" I just didn't know what unit it was for
and I'm too bloody lazy to find out. Wink

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Subject: [GMCnet] Onan heads decarbon

My 73 Painted Desert, 23ft, has a 4kw Onan -- no hour meter but appears to
have had low hours -- I thought it ran very well and rather quietly. This
weekend however I replaced a few gaskets, did some cleaning and decided to
decarbon the heads.
The first one did not look too bad, but the second one had a lot of build
up. I did the work at the mini-storage lot, scraping first and then using a
soft brass brush in a battery powered hand drill. I was very pleased with
the results -- runs even more quietly, and very steady -- the small bit of
vibration that I previously could feel while in the back of the coach was
gone.

Pertronix in the near future -- will be interesting to see how much smoother
it can be.

Just fyi.

Dennis
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Re: Onan heads decarbon [message #116027 is a reply to message #116024] Mon, 21 February 2011 21:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken,

Yes, I think using a bead blaster would be excellent. I had also read where someone used oven cleaner. Next time I would like to remove more parts of the Onan including the exhaust and get several items bead blasted and refinished.

Dennis

Ken Burton wrote on Mon, 21 February 2011 20:52

A few years back I did everything I could think of to get the Onan to run smooth. I fought the problem for over a year. Then I saw the label on the Onan that said to de-carbonize the heads every 200 hours. I did it and the Onan has run beautifully ever since. I did it the same way you did with a brass brush on an Dremel. After I put it back together, Steve F. suggested using a bead blaster to clean them. If I ever have to do it again that is what I'll use.



Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
Re: [GMCnet] Onan heads decarbon [message #116032 is a reply to message #116023] Mon, 21 February 2011 21:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I need to do the Onan head de-carbon, but those of you that know me
know that I am anal-retentive about cleaning and repainting things
when I put them back together. Having said that, does anyone
know of a source for high-temp Onan green paint?


On 2/21/2011 6:46 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Dennis,
>
> Thanks for the heads up on the cleaning, I can ga-ron-tee you WILL be amazed
> how much smoother the Pertronix makes the Onan run.
>
> See my albums for the VW style, Ken H.'s for the "other" style. NOTHING is
> meant by me using the term "other" I just didn't know what unit it was for
> and I'm too bloody lazy to find out. ;-)

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Re: [GMCnet] Onan heads decarbon [message #116035 is a reply to message #116032] Mon, 21 February 2011 21:44 Go to previous message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Terry,

The heads on my Onan were not painted -- only the shrouds.

I appreciate your preference to clean and paint -- Cummins/Onan sells a matching paint. I tried to find a match at the local big box stores but was unsuccessful. I only painted the carb and it turned out to be J Deere green -- so a re-do is in the future.

Dennis

n6mon wrote on Mon, 21 February 2011 21:29

I need to do the Onan head de-carbon, but those of you that know me
know that I am anal-retentive about cleaning and repainting things
when I put them back together. Having said that, does anyone
know of a source for high-temp Onan green paint?


On 2/21/2011 6:46 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Dennis,
>
> Thanks for the heads up on the cleaning, I can ga-ron-tee you WILL be amazed
> how much smoother the Pertronix makes the Onan run.
>
> See my albums for the VW style, Ken H.'s for the "other" style. NOTHING is
> meant by me using the term "other" I just didn't know what unit it was for
> and I'm too bloody lazy to find out. Wink

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