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Re: [GMCnet] Rear bogie arrangement question [message #115588] Fri, 18 February 2011 19:29 Go to next message
KB is currently offline  KB   United States
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If I didn't already have two, I'd be looking seriously at this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270707268864


> For those not in tune, I'm not a GMC Motorhome owner *yet*. I'm looking very hard all over the US and Canada trying to find one that is basically ok but will need some work. To me, it is truly at least half if not more than half, the fun to tinker with it to make it something nifty, probably use it next fall/winter if things went well. I like the size, the look...pretty much everything about them - (to me there is no other option!) and it's just fantastic to meet such a helpful and inviting group here. If things go well, I'll have one within a month and hopefully it'll come with a book. Then...the fun begins!
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Re: [GMCnet] Rear bogie arrangement question [message #115603 is a reply to message #115588] Fri, 18 February 2011 20:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:29:56 -0800
> From: kab7@sonic.net
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Rear bogie arrangement question
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> If I didn't already have two, I'd be looking seriously at this one:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270707268864
>
>
> > For those not in tune, I'm not a GMC Motorhome owner *yet*. I'm looking very hard all over the US and Canada trying to find one that is basically ok but will need some work. To me, it is truly at least half if not more than half, the fun to tinker with it to make it something nifty, probably use it next fall/winter if things went well. I like the size, the look...pretty much everything about them - (to me there is no other option!) and it's just fantastic to meet such a helpful and inviting group here. If things go well, I'll have one within a month and hopefully it'll come with a book. Then...the fun begins!
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Re: [GMCnet] Rear bogie arrangement question [message #115606 is a reply to message #115588] Fri, 18 February 2011 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mike miller   United States
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KB wrote on Fri, 18 February 2011 17:29

If I didn't already have two, I'd be looking seriously at this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270707268864


First, this looks to be a very nice coach. With no reserve in today's market it will (most likely) sell for well under it's true value. (Going only on the pictures and write-up.)

But I did notice something about the use of the relative term, "NEW":

Quote:

Purchased this southern coach in 2000, with 45K miles had extensive conversion completed at that time, anything stated "new" was installed in this restoration...


How does anyone think that 11 years old is "NEW" ???



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Re: [GMCnet] Rear bogie arrangement question [message #115608 is a reply to message #115588] Fri, 18 February 2011 20:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks and first Q is, it seems a few of you have 'collections' going of these...2 or 3 or more and is this generally for donor vehicles or is anyone actually maintaining them all? Shocked

That's quite a bargain indeed - if it would only sell for the current price it would be just unreal. Problem is, I don't think it's going to. I'll bet it'll sell for 7, maybe 8k, and that may still be a bargain - but certainly not for the seller!

Now, for someone who wants a (hopefully) decent base, that looks like a great starting point and that would be me but I then have to add a sizeable sum to fetch it and bring it home so I have to do math with that too.

Sadly my second point has little to do with the coach, but the venue, and that's eBay. I *was* an eBay member for over 10 years and last summer had a 2 month battle with eBay and PayPal (PayPal specifically), which involved the FBI, RCMP, Quebec Provincial Police, and the Metropolitian Police in London, UK.

Long story short when I finally was given back *my* money (enough to buy that coach), I had put a UK police officer (true!) in jail for internet fraud and in protest to their behaviour, pulled my accounts with both eBay and PayPal.

I could go on at serious length about the bad side of the eBay corporation and it's siblings, but I'll keep it short and say "I did my time" and to all others who may still choose to participate there, *DO* take the time to read your PayPal and eBay user agreements **VERY** carefully. Oh, the only people who made any money on my specific transaction: PayPal and eBay. Registered corporations in Luxembourg and Switzerland as I recall. Interesting 'operation' they run.

So...I keep looking. Thanks for the link though!!

Gord
Re: [GMCnet] Rear bogie arrangement question [message #115761 is a reply to message #115608] Sat, 19 February 2011 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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gordh1 wrote on Fri, 18 February 2011 20:43

Thanks and first Q is, it seems a few of you have 'collections' going of these...2 or 3 or more and is this generally for donor vehicles or is anyone actually maintaining them all? Shocked

That's quite a bargain indeed - if it would only sell for the current price it would be just unreal. Problem is, I don't think it's going to. I'll bet it'll sell for 7, maybe 8k, and that may still be a bargain - but certainly not for the seller!

Now, for someone who wants a (hopefully) decent base, that looks like a great starting point and that would be me but I then have to add a sizeable sum to fetch it and bring it home so I have to do math with that too.

Sadly my second point has little to do with the coach, but the venue, and that's eBay. I *was* an eBay member for over 10 years and last summer had a 2 month battle with eBay and PayPal (PayPal specifically), which involved the FBI, RCMP, Quebec Provincial Police, and the Metropolitian Police in London, UK.

Long story short when I finally was given back *my* money (enough to buy that coach), I had put a UK police officer (true!) in jail for internet fraud and in protest to their behaviour, pulled my accounts with both eBay and PayPal.

I could go on at serious length about the bad side of the eBay corporation and it's siblings, but I'll keep it short and say "I did my time" and to all others who may still choose to participate there, *DO* take the time to read your PayPal and eBay user agreements **VERY** carefully. Oh, the only people who made any money on my specific transaction: PayPal and eBay. Registered corporations in Luxembourg and Switzerland as I recall. Interesting 'operation' they run.

So...I keep looking. Thanks for the link though!!

Gord


Yes that is an interesting operation (both ebay and Paypal). We has a similar multi-month go around with with them and they are almost impossible to deal with and get anything fixed. This was an account we buy and sell things from a the airport. I was sending one note per day to them complaining before they finally got into action. It was also over a UK fraud issue. In the end we ended up OK but it was a mess for several months.

In a separate transaction recently Laurie won a bid on a $200 item. We received a note from the seller saying the item is broken and will not be shipped. The seller closed his account and disappeared with the money. I filed a claim under ebay's "Buyer Protection". Ebay kept saying send proof I returned the item. IT took about 4 weeks for them to understand that there was not item to return. I did finally get a refund.

All in all I have had good luck with ebay and paypal but when something goes wrong it is next to impossible to get it corrected.

Sorry to hear of your misfortune. There is always someone out there trying to make a buck by cheating someone else.



Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
[GMCnet] Trusting Ebay or PayPal... [message #115768 is a reply to message #115761] Sat, 19 February 2011 22:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> In a separate transaction recently Laurie won a bid on a $200 item.
> We received a note from the seller saying the item is broken and will
> not be shipped. The seller closed his account and disappeared with
> the money. I filed a claim under ebay's "Buyer Protection". Ebay
> kept saying send proof I returned the item. IT took about 4 weeks
> for them to understand that there was not item to return. I did
> finally get a refund.

Can you imagine the number of scammers tying to get free money from Ebay
and PayPal?

I'm not saying that there isn't games being played by both of those
Corporations but you know they're on constant alert to people trying to
make a buck from their Buyer Protection programs.

It's a wacky world out there. "Caveat Emptor" will always apply.

Kelvin

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Re: [GMCnet] Rear bogie arrangement question [message #115770 is a reply to message #115588] Sat, 19 February 2011 23:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Help me out, I read the thread with this subject title and failed to learn anything about rear bogies arrangements.

Scratching my head. What did I miss?


Adrien & Jenny Genesoto 75 Glenbrook (26-3) Mods LS3.70 FD / Reaction Sys / 80mm Front&Intermidiate / Hydroboost / 16" Tires / Frame Rebuild / Interior Rebuild Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6
Re: [GMCnet] Rear bogie arrangement question [message #115772 is a reply to message #115770] Sun, 20 February 2011 00:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Seems to be a glitch with how the mail list replies to the forum.

Try here Adrien:
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=15693&start=0&rid=0

Gord :)

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Help me out, I read the thread with this subject title and failed to learn
anything about rear bogies arrangements.

Scratching my head. What did I miss?
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Re: [GMCnet] Rear bogie arrangement question [message #115782 is a reply to message #115770] Sun, 20 February 2011 03:52 Go to previous message
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Adrien G. wrote on Sat, 19 February 2011 21:36

Help me out, I read the thread with this subject title and failed to learn anything about rear bogies arrangements.

Scratching my head. What did I miss?


Someone replied to a email on "bogie arrangement" when posting about a coach on ebay. (In a perfect world they would have started a "new" email.)

Happens. Complaining about it just causes people to post less.

I would rather have them posting.


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