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| [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day [message #114163] |
Fri, 04 February 2011 10:39  |
emerystora
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I was talking on the phone last night with my mother, bless her, and
she told me that it should be a short winter because she saw on TV
that the muskrat came out of it's den and didn't see it's shadow!
If I wanted to write a book I could not have thought that up! :)
Emery Stora
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| Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day [message #114176 is a reply to message #114163] |
Fri, 04 February 2011 11:29  |
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| emerystora wrote on Fri, 04 February 2011 09:39 |
I was talking on the phone last night with my mother, bless her, and
she told me that it should be a short winter because she saw on TV
that the muskrat came out of it's den and didn't see it's shadow!
If I wanted to write a book I could not have thought that up! 
Emery Stora
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Tuesday (Groundhog Day) was my mother's 85th birthday. It's easy to remember that date and It is easy for me to remember her age since she is 30 years older than I am. Thanks Mom!
Carl Stouffer
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| Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day [message #114177 is a reply to message #114171] |
Fri, 04 February 2011 11:32 |
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| Bruce Hislop wrote on Fri, 04 February 2011 11:13 |
Would that be akin to Feb 2, groundhog day?
Various famous groundhogs did not see their shadows and therefore it will be a short winter, or so the story goes...
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Yep, only a month and a half of winter left. Think Spring!
Whereas, if he HAD seen his shadow we would still have six long weeks of winter....
Makes sense if you don't think about it...
Erv Troyer Lagrange, IN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day [message #114181 is a reply to message #114166] |
Fri, 04 February 2011 11:47 |
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In Southern Illinois groundhogs are known as muskrats. I didn't know what a
groundhog was until I went to Arkansas (after getting my visa approved).
First meal I had after arriving was a delicacy - possum on the half shell.
Byron
Tom Eckert wrote:
> Emery,
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> Yes, and as we all age we may all come up with similar statements. Reminds
> me of the old Art Linkletter segment - "Kids say the darndest
> things"..."Seniors say the darndest things"! And I could be one soon! lol
>
> Tom E.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day [message #114184 is a reply to message #114163] |
Fri, 04 February 2011 12:22 |
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Byron,
Just wondering then, what do they call Muskrats in S. IL?
Being a farm boy I've had lots of experience with groundhogs and their holes in the fields.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundhog
But not growing up by a river, I haven't seen many muskrats.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muskrat
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| Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day [message #114198 is a reply to message #114181] |
Fri, 04 February 2011 13:58 |
k2gkk
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I don't believe that muskrats and groundhogs
are the same animal.
I seem to remember some kids who trapped for
muskrats in ponds and swamps back in western
NY state where I grew up
Granddad had a .22 cal Mossberg single shot
rifle he used to nail the critters that tried
to raid his vegetable garden crops. He used
a different name for them, but I'm pretty sure
that it was another name for groundhogs. The
name he used escapes me at the moment now.
BTW, "Possum on the Half Shell" is the humorous
name for armadillo! When served, they are almost
always road kill sourced.
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> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:47:57 -0500
> From: bsonger@songerconsulting.net
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day
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> In Southern Illinois groundhogs are known as muskrats. I didn't know what a
> groundhog was until I went to Arkansas (after getting my visa approved).
> First meal I had after arriving was a delicacy - possum on the half shell.
>
> Byron
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> Tom Eckert wrote:
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> > Emery,
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> > Yes, and as we all age we may all come up with similar statements. Reminds
> > me of the old Art Linkletter segment - "Kids say the darndest
> > things"..."Seniors say the darndest things"! And I could be one soon! lol
> >
> > Tom E.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day [message #114199 is a reply to message #114176] |
Fri, 04 February 2011 14:03 |
Carl S.
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| Carl S. wrote on Fri, 04 February 2011 10:29 |
| emerystora wrote on Fri, 04 February 2011 09:39 |
I was talking on the phone last night with my mother, bless her, and
she told me that it should be a short winter because she saw on TV
that the muskrat came out of it's den and didn't see it's shadow!
If I wanted to write a book I could not have thought that up!
Emery Stora
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Tuesday (Groundhog Day) was my mother's 85th birthday. It's easy to remember that date and It is easy for me to remember her age since she is 30 years older than I am. Thanks Mom!
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Oops, sorry. I meant Wednesday!
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day [message #114200 is a reply to message #114177] |
Fri, 04 February 2011 14:01 |
k2gkk
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The date of Groundhog averages out to be
halfway between Winter Solstice and Vernal
(Spring) Equinox. Just an excuse to have
a party!
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: reo43@aol.com
> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:32:03 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day
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> Bruce Hislop wrote on Fri, 04 February 2011 11:13
> > Would that be akin to Feb 2, groundhog day?
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> > Various famous groundhogs did not see their shadows and therefore it will be a short winter, or so the story goes...
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> Yep, only a month and a half of winter left. Think Spring!
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> Whereas, if he HAD seen his shadow we would still have six long weeks of winter....
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> Makes sense if you don't think about it...
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> Erv Troyer Lagrange, IN
> 74 Sequoia
> reo43@aol.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day [message #114208 is a reply to message #114198] |
Fri, 04 February 2011 14:54 |
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We call groundhogs, woodchucks in Canada, at least in Ont. & Que. It was fun hunting them after the hay fields were cut as they didn't seem to realize their cover was gone.
I don't believe that muskrats and groundhogs
are the same animal.
I seem to remember some kids who trapped for
muskrats in ponds and swamps back in western
NY state where I grew up
Granddad had a .22 cal Mossberg single shot
rifle he used to nail the critters that tried
to raid his vegetable garden crops. He used
a different name for them, but I'm pretty sure
that it was another name for groundhogs. The
name he used escapes me at the moment now.
BTW, "Possum on the Half Shell" is the humorous
name for armadillo! When served, they are almost
always road kill sourced.
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~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
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~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
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> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:47:57 -0500
> From: bsonger@songerconsulting.net
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day
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> In Southern Illinois groundhogs are known as muskrats. I didn't know what a
> groundhog was until I went to Arkansas (after getting my visa approved).
> First meal I had after arriving was a delicacy - possum on the half shell.
>
> Byron
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> Tom Eckert wrote:
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> > Emery,
> >
> > Yes, and as we all age we may all come up with similar statements. Reminds
> > me of the old Art Linkletter segment - "Kids say the darndest
> > things"..."Seniors say the darndest things"! And I could be one soon! lol
> >
> > Tom E.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day [message #114218 is a reply to message #114208] |
Fri, 04 February 2011 16:12 |
k2gkk
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Yeppers! Woodchuck is the name I forgot.
NY state borders ON and PQ, so prolly
critter names are common.
What most people in the US, at least in
the South, call crappies, we called
calico bass.
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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:54:02 -0800
From: bowks43@rogers.com
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day
We call groundhogs, woodchucks in Canada, at least
in Ont. & Que. It was fun hunting them after the
hay fields were cut as they didn't seem to realize
their cover was gone.
Mac Macdonald wrote:
I don't believe that muskrats and groundhogs
are the same animal.
I seem to remember some kids who trapped for
muskrats in ponds and swamps back in western
NY state where I grew up
Granddad had a .22 cal Mossberg single shot
rifle he used to nail the critters that tried
to raid his vegetable garden crops. He used
a different name for them, but I'm pretty sure
that it was another name for groundhogs. The
name he used escapes me at the moment now.
BTW, "Possum on the Half Shell" is the humorous
name for armadillo! When served, they are almost
always road kill sourced.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:47:57 -0500
From: bsonger@songerconsulting.net
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day
In Southern Illinois groundhogs are known as muskrats. I didn't know what a
groundhog was until I went to Arkansas (after getting my visa approved).
First meal I had after arriving was a delicacy - possum on the half shell.
Byron
Tom Eckert wrote:
Emery,
Yes, and as we all age we may all come up with similar statements. Reminds
me of the old Art Linkletter segment - "Kids say the darndest
things"..."Seniors say the darndest things"! And I could be one soon! lol
Tom E.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day [message #114228 is a reply to message #114198] |
Fri, 04 February 2011 17:34 |
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Es verdad. Muskrats and groundhogs are different. But, when you hate both
and want to get rid of them it's easier to yell one name and watch everyone
point and shoot.
You may have been trying to think of woodchuck. Groundhog and woodchuck are
one and the same.
Biologically, the muskrat is in a different genus from the groundhog.
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D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
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> I don't believe that muskrats and groundhogs
> are the same animal.
>
> I seem to remember some kids who trapped for
> muskrats in ponds and swamps back in western
> NY state where I grew up
>
> Granddad had a .22 cal Mossberg single shot
> rifle he used to nail the critters that tried
> to raid his vegetable garden crops. He used
> a different name for them, but I'm pretty sure
> that it was another name for groundhogs. The
> name he used escapes me at the moment now.
>
> BTW, "Possum on the Half Shell" is the humorous
> name for armadillo! When served, they are almost
> always road kill sourced.
>
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> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
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> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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>> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:47:57 -0500
>> From: bsonger@songerconsulting.net
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day
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>> In Southern Illinois groundhogs are known as muskrats. I didn't know what a
>> groundhog was until I went to Arkansas (after getting my visa approved).
>> First meal I had after arriving was a delicacy - possum on the half shell.
>>
>> Byron
>>
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>> Tom Eckert wrote:
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>>> Emery,
>>>
>>> Yes, and as we all age we may all come up with similar statements. Reminds
>>> me of the old Art Linkletter segment - "Kids say the darndest
>>> things"..."Seniors say the darndest things"! And I could be one soon! lol
>>>
>>> Tom E.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day [message #114229 is a reply to message #114184] |
Fri, 04 February 2011 17:50 |
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Bruce,
When you live in "the bottoms" in Southern Illinois you have both flat land,
small rivers and big creeks. During heavy rains the bottoms flood easily. We
shot both on site because all the coyotes and wolves, that would have
enjoyed the critters, were scarce.
They look amazingly similar though the muskrat seems to be a bit bigger.
When they're wet they look rather oily. I have seen some rather large
groundhogs, however, while looking for wild blackberries.
The sly bit of humor in the other post is that there is a difference between
the two just as there's a difference between an opossum and an armadillo.
What do we call muskrats? That reminds me of the story of the father (a
preacher) and son out hunting one day with my dad. They shot one or the
other (can't remember) as it ran across the end of a field. When they got up
close to be sure he was dead the son said: "I guess the Lord called him
home."
Byron
Bruce Hislop wrote:
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> Byron,
> Just wondering then, what do they call Muskrats in S. IL?
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> Being a farm boy I've had lots of experience with groundhogs and their holes
> in the fields.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundhog
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> But not growing up by a river, I haven't seen many muskrats.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muskrat
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> GMC content, never let wheel drop in a groundhog hole!
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> Ok.. I was looking for a picture of a wheel stuck in a groundhog hole and I
> came across this site... if you have a bad day, just check out these pics .
> http://blogs.agweb.com/FarmJournal/WhatADay/Archives.aspx
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day [message #114258 is a reply to message #114214] |
Fri, 04 February 2011 20:37 |
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| CBWoodSR wrote on Fri, 04 February 2011 16:35 |
reminds me of a new commercial of woodchucks throwing chunks of wood into pond..etc
Some people didnt get the relation...
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Woodchucks and groundhogs are the same critters. I have 3 around on my property. They also make good eating if you get a young one in the spring after they hibernate. Older ones or fat ones have a bad taste. Hard as the dickens to skin and you have to cook them in a pressure cooker or they are tough as leather. After the pressure cooker you roll the parts in flour and fry in butter, makes fine eating, when you do it right. Makes a good gravy for biscuits too.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Happy Muskrat Day [message #114275 is a reply to message #114258] |
Sat, 05 February 2011 02:18 |
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Kinda reminds me of the way to cook a "planked duck". First shoot the duck,
scald it in hot water to remove the feathers, gut it, clean it real good &
remove any shot that you can find, split it down the back so it will lay
flat on the plank, season it up real good with your favorite seasoning, lay
it flat on the plank and tie it down with butchers string. Put it in your
BBQ and close the lid & cook it until it reaches an internal temperature of
160 degrees, carefully remove it from the BBQ, remove the strings, throw
away the duck & eat the plank.<GRIN>
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Gene Dotson <shawnee@charter.net> wrote:
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> CBWoodSR wrote on Fri, 04 February 2011 16:35
> > reminds me of a new commercial of woodchucks throwing chunks of wood into
> pond..etc
> > Some people didnt get the relation...
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> Woodchucks and groundhogs are the same critters. I have 3 around on my
> property. They also make good eating if you get a young one in the spring
> after they hibernate. Older ones or fat ones have a bad taste. Hard as the
> dickens to skin and you have to cook them in a pressure cooker or they are
> tough as leather. After the pressure cooker you roll the parts in flour and
> fry in butter, makes fine eating, when you do it right. Makes a good gravy
> for biscuits too.
>
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> 74 Canyonlands
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