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| [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures [message #113658] |
Mon, 31 January 2011 08:01  |
k2gkk
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My boat has four of the Slim-Line type fluorescent fixtures.
The tubes are about 18" long.
Two of them have died. The oscillator circuits to convert
13V DC to 120V AC have cratered.
These flank mirrors in the head areas (bathrooms for you
landlubbers) used for shaving, etc. Would LED replacements
provide the correct color temperature and diffused light
needed for that use?
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~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures [message #113667 is a reply to message #113661] |
Mon, 31 January 2011 08:43  |
k2gkk
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Well, that picture is in the dim light
of the Golden Corral buffet in NW OKC
and backlighted to boot!
It doesn't apply to the light available
in the two shower areas on our boat!
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:09:13 -0500
> From: dennisfsexton@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures
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> Mac,
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> Forgive me, but looking at the linked photo your current lights are not sufficient...as you say -- for shaiving, etc...
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37552&title=mac26amp-3b-judy&cat=5698
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> Dennis Sexton
> 73 GMC
> Germantown, TN
> USA
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: D C *Mac* Macdonald
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org; GMC WD0AFQ Gregg, Dan and Terri
> Sent: Mon, Jan 31, 2011 8:01 am
> Subject: [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures
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> y boat has four of the Slim-Line type fluorescent fixtures.
> he tubes are about 18" long.
> Two of them have died. The oscillator circuits to convert
> 3V DC to 120V AC have cratered.
> These flank mirrors in the head areas (bathrooms for you
> andlubbers) used for shaving, etc. Would LED replacements
> rovide the correct color temperature and diffused light
> eeded for that use?
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> ~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures [message #113682 is a reply to message #113658] |
Mon, 31 January 2011 10:07 |
Dennis S
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Mac,
From what I have seen the recently posted LED conversions are very dependent on individual expectations and needs. Very much -- try them, you might like them -- Understandable since they are primarily a "bulb" replacement.
This may be acceptable for some that dry camp -- but $100 to relamp the bath module for the potential power savings is not a priority for me.
Perhaps in a couple of years we will see more proven conversions or complete fixtures available -- at prices that show better payback for the expected usage.
Dennis
| k2gkk wrote on Mon, 31 January 2011 08:01 |
My boat has four of the Slim-Line type fluorescent fixtures.
The tubes are about 18" long.
Two of them have died. The oscillator circuits to convert
13V DC to 120V AC have cratered.
These flank mirrors in the head areas (bathrooms for you
landlubbers) used for shaving, etc. Would LED replacements
provide the correct color temperature and diffused light
needed for that use?
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures [message #113685 is a reply to message #113658] |
Mon, 31 January 2011 10:30 |
k2gkk
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Perhaps additional info is needed since I didn't find
anything on prudentrver that matches what I need.
One fixture dating to about 1986 was made by Xantrex.
The other, from about 1995, has no label on it.
Both fixtures use a single F13T5 tube, available in
both cool white (CW) and warm white (WW) versions.
The overall fixture is about 24" long by 3" wide.
They don't get much use, so I guess I'll just get
some fluorescent replacements. They don't have to
withstand frequent usage without either "shore" or
"engine" power.
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~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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> From: k2gkk@hotmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org; gregg_dan@hotmail.com
> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 08:01:41 -0600
> Subject: [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures
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> My boat has four of the Slim-Line type fluorescent fixtures.
> The tubes are about 18" long.
>
> Two of them have died. The oscillator circuits to convert
> 13V DC to 120V AC have cratered.
>
> These flank mirrors in the head areas (bathrooms for you
> landlubbers) used for shaving, etc. Would LED replacements
> provide the correct color temperature and diffused light
> needed for that use?
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures [message #113762 is a reply to message #113685] |
Mon, 31 January 2011 19:18 |
gmcrv1
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Mac,
I replaced the two incandescent "side" lamps with two LED under counter
lights each having 9 LEDs. My guess is I'm at about 85% of the originals.
I'm thinking of adding something or going with Ultra Brite LEDs.
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:30 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:
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> Perhaps additional info is needed since I didn't find
> anything on prudentrver that matches what I need.
>
> One fixture dating to about 1986 was made by Xantrex.
> The other, from about 1995, has no label on it.
>
> Both fixtures use a single F13T5 tube, available in
> both cool white (CW) and warm white (WW) versions.
>
> The overall fixture is about 24" long by 3" wide.
> They don't get much use, so I guess I'll just get
> some fluorescent replacements. They don't have to
> withstand frequent usage without either "shore" or
> "engine" power.
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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> > From: k2gkk@hotmail.com
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org; gregg_dan@hotmail.com
> > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 08:01:41 -0600
> > Subject: [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures
> >
> >
> > My boat has four of the Slim-Line type fluorescent fixtures.
> > The tubes are about 18" long.
> >
> > Two of them have died. The oscillator circuits to convert
> > 13V DC to 120V AC have cratered.
> >
> > These flank mirrors in the head areas (bathrooms for you
> > landlubbers) used for shaving, etc. Would LED replacements
> > provide the correct color temperature and diffused light
> > needed for that use?
> >
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> > ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> > ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> > ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> > ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> > ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> > ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures [message #113781 is a reply to message #113779] |
Mon, 31 January 2011 21:25 |
Dennis S
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Dan,
The $100 number was -- two panels per flourescent fixture $25 per panel. Did I misunderstand?
And I do appreciate the technology and how much it may mean to some users/owners.
Thanks for your help --
Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Mon, Jan 31, 2011 9:22 pm
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures
Dan,
Tell the factory owner that you have a BUNCH of potential customers so he
ives you a selection of sample pieces so people can see how bright they
re!
Tell him most GMCer's are like the people from Missouri - the SHOW ME STATE!
Hey, you're from Missouri!
Regards,
ob M.
SAussie - Downunder
US '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
SA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Gregg
ent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:16 PM
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ubject: Re: [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures
There is no need to spend 100 bux for replacements in the bath.
hope to bring some of these to GMCMI in April so you can see what I am
alking about. These things are unbelievable.
an
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an & Teri Gregg
http://danandteri.blogspot.com/
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures [message #113828 is a reply to message #113787] |
Tue, 01 February 2011 09:37 |
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I have first hand experience with these LED lights. Last year I bought some from John Ruff, while at Quartzsite. I have replaced the 12" fluorescent tubes in one of my ceiling fixtures with the same set-up as Dan has:
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37566&title=led-flouressant-replacements&cat=5644>
I also replaced the center bulbs in my bathroom fixtures (the ones that turn on at the first click of the switch) with these:
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37472&title=2nd-best-led&cat=5644>
This year I bought some more of the second type, from Dan, and put them in my range hood lights, and in my porch light (2 - 3 LED strips)
I also added some LED dome lights above my couch for reading etc. that Dan Told me about, on eBay:
< http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SeaSense-Surface-Mt-LED-Task-Light-Soft-White-50023856-/400179543844?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item5d2c8f 3f24>
These all work great and are as bright as the lamps they replaced. I don't expect to get a return on my investment out of these, but the are great for dry camping. One less thing to use up my batteries.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures [message #114143 is a reply to message #113828] |
Fri, 04 February 2011 08:35 |
Carl S.
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I just put up an album of the LED lighting I have installed on my coach. These lights came from the vendor in Quartzsite that Dan Gregg and John Ruff were working with.
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc.php?action=orderphotos&s=&cat=5703>
I really like these lights and, although the old lights were not the major power hog (I still have the original Norcold electric fridge), it makes me feel good about using them on battery power.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures [message #114146 is a reply to message #114143] |
Fri, 04 February 2011 08:50 |
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| Carl S. wrote on Fri, 04 February 2011 08:35 |
I just put up an album of the LED lighting I have installed on my coach. These lights came from the vendor in Quartzsite that Dan Gregg and John Ruff were working with.
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc.php?action=orderphotos&s=&cat=5703>
I really like these lights and, although the old lights were not the major power hog (I still have the original Norcold electric fridge), it makes me feel good about using them on battery power.
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Carl
Thank you for posting. Nice work. Easier to understand how to install.
I did not realize the light fixtures varied quite so much over the years of production.
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures [message #114148 is a reply to message #114144] |
Fri, 04 February 2011 09:25 |
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Hmmm...That's funny... they both worked fine for me.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures [message #114160 is a reply to message #114150] |
Fri, 04 February 2011 10:22 |
Carl S.
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[quote title=Bill Massey wrote on Fri, 04 February 2011 08:26]Carl
In www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37598, Is that 4 ZL3 LEDs?
As at www.prudentrver.com/zipled.html? $40 worth of LEDs to replace one
1156 bulb? If not, which LED are they?
In www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37586, which item(s) on
www.prudentrver.com/ledfleds.html is it?
Thanks for sharing
bdub (still in the dark) 
Billy,
You'll have to confirm this with Dan but, I think the ones I used to replace the 1156 bulbs are the ZL3 strips with the B15s.ZLX bases.
Yes, they were $30.00 - $40.00 plus the bases (usually you use three strips to replace an 1156 bulb). Not cheap, but very effective. Guaranteed for life.
In the fluorescent fixtures I used the fLED-6S (X-2). I have only done one of these so far. Last year I bought the stuff to do one fluorescent (2 ea. fLED-6s) and three 1156s (3 ea bases and 9 ea ZL3) for $100.00 cash. So there were deals to be had at the big RV show tent.
http://prudentrver.com/store.html
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED Replacements for Fluorescent Fixtures [message #114161 is a reply to message #114148] |
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| Carl S. wrote on Fri, 04 February 2011 07:25 |
Hmmm...That's funny... they both worked fine for me.
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I think it is the part of the URL : ...action=orderphotos&s..
I get: "Must be logged in to sort photos."
I try and not link to the URL used while I am logged in. They seem to behave oddly.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
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