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Sun, 23 January 2011 11:43  |
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Anyone have insite on the tire rotation order?
Rear to the front, middle?
Jay Fox
Calgary AB
73 Painted Desert (Turtle)
78 Transmode (Trailer Donor)
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| Re: Tire Rotation [message #112747 is a reply to message #112734] |
Sun, 23 January 2011 12:59  |
GeorgeRud
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I think there are a couple of choices listed in the owner's manual, either using the spare or not. The easy one (not incorporating the spare) simply moved the tires back one spot on each side if I remember correctly. My manual is in my coach, which is stored for the winter.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tire Rotation [message #112783 is a reply to message #112751] |
Sun, 23 January 2011 16:38 |
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USAussie
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Gene,
I really don't understand how to get into this system.
When I bought Double Trouble it had eight year old BF Goodrich G-159's on
it.
Using this system I should have bought two front tires the first year, two
more tires the second year, and two tires the third year. That meant I would
have been running the last two ten years. Somewhere in there I needed to buy
a spare too.
I realize that if you want to get into this system you need to plan ahead so
that the last two tires get replaced at whatever age interval you feel
comfortable with.
How do you do that if you buy a GMC that needs seven new tires?
Do you run the ones on the front two years and then replace them?
Jay,
The rotation sequence for six and seven tires can be found in Maintenance
Manual X-7525 Section 10 WHEELS AND TIRES Page 10-3 Figure 3 - Tire Rotation
Diagram.
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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buy 2 new tires each year and put on the front
move the old front to the mid rear
move the old mid to the rear
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JWID
gene
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tire Rotation [message #112795 is a reply to message #112783] |
Sun, 23 January 2011 17:24 |
gmcrv1
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Rob,
When I bought the Glacier from Dennis, it needed 7 new tires. So, I bought
6 to mount on the new Eagles I got from Jim K. Still working on getting a
16" rim of some type for a spare. So...in three years, I'll have a two good
spares when I buy two new fronts and rotate the remainder.
I either have too new a tire set or...
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:
> Gene,
>
> I really don't understand how to get into this system.
>
> When I bought Double Trouble it had eight year old BF Goodrich G-159's on
> it.
>
> Using this system I should have bought two front tires the first year, two
> more tires the second year, and two tires the third year. That meant I
> would
> have been running the last two ten years. Somewhere in there I needed to
> buy
> a spare too.
>
> I realize that if you want to get into this system you need to plan ahead
> so
> that the last two tires get replaced at whatever age interval you feel
> comfortable with.
>
> How do you do that if you buy a GMC that needs seven new tires?
>
> Do you run the ones on the front two years and then replace them?
>
> Jay,
>
> The rotation sequence for six and seven tires can be found in Maintenance
> Manual X-7525 Section 10 WHEELS AND TIRES Page 10-3 Figure 3 - Tire
> Rotation
> Diagram.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Mr.erf ERFisher
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 7:22 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Tire Rotation
>
> buy 2 new tires each year and put on the front
>
> move the old front to the mid rear
> move the old mid to the rear
> '
> JWID
> gene
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tire Rotation [message #112806 is a reply to message #112783] |
Sun, 23 January 2011 18:34 |
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mike miller
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Sun, 23 January 2011 14:38 |
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I realize that if you want to get into this system you need to plan ahead so
that the last two tires get replaced at whatever age interval you feel
comfortable with.
How do you do that if you buy a GMC that needs seven new tires?
Do you run the ones on the front two years and then replace them?
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Run your 6 new tires for 4 years, then sell a 'set' of 4, 4 year old tires on craigslist or ebay. Replace with 4 new tires. Then go to the 2 every 2 years, keeping the best one as the spare.*
My rotation would be from the front to the rear most to the middle. Keeping the tires on the same side.
Why?
1. Our suspensions are hardest on the middle set of tires from the flex and running into things. I like having the tires that are getting the most abuse to be the next ones to be replaced.
2. I like the best tread on the drive tires. I like the next best tread on the steering tires. On our GMC's... they are the same.
3. Very few of us are concerned with wearing out the tread on our tires so "evening out the wear" isn't that much of a concern. But I have had problems with tread separation after changing the rotational direction of the tire.
* With changing out your spare every two years, it may make sense to have a seventh wheel that matches your other 6. Could pay for itself, in fewer un-mounting and re-mounting costs, after just a few tire swaps.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tire Rotation [message #112827 is a reply to message #112806] |
Sun, 23 January 2011 20:30 |
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Mike Miller is right on with his advise to keep the tires on the same side. We have had some nasty surprises with the Michelins until we discovered from speaking with the manufacturing reps that the sidewall steel belts are woven in an X fashion and they will conform to the tire rotation direction. If you reverse the tire, the bands will try and bend back causing a cut, first inside the casing, if you are lucky it will show by leaking air. We have examined tires after they became defewtive and were surprised by the amount of damage travel reversing can be caused.
KEEP THEM TURNING IN THE SAME DIRECTION! said the sign in the tire shop, backed up by branding tire rotation in the side wall.
Thirtyfive years in the trucking business taught me to pay attention to the small things.
Nick R. NorCal
76-23'Transmode-Norris
Rear Bath and
75-26' Avion
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tire Rotation [message #112831 is a reply to message #112827] |
Sun, 23 January 2011 20:48 |
Ken Henderson
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My first radial tires were Michelin X in 1970, mounted on a '68 Toyota Crown
station wagon. After 5000 miles or so, per instructions, I rotated them in
X fashion. Within a few hundred miles all four were badly out of balance.
At one of the major tire chains in Los Angeles -- name long lost to CRS --
I was told "don't do that", for the very reason Nick describes -- the
sidewall plies taking a set in one direction, then having to reverse
postition when the direction of rotation was changed.
IIRC, they rebalanced them in the new orientation and I never X rotated them
again for 40,000+ miles.
I thought that problem had been eliminated, but apparently not.
Ken H.
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Nick Roenick <pickle4k@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Mike Miller is right on with his advise to keep the tires on the same side.
> We have had some nasty surprises with the Michelins until we discovered from
> speaking with the manufacturing reps that the sidewall steel belts are woven
> in an X fashion and they will conform to the tire rotation direction. If you
> reverse the tire, the bands will try and bend back causing a cut, first
> inside the casing, if you are lucky it will show by leaking air. We have
> examined tires after they became defewtive and were surprised by the amount
> of damage travel reversing can be caused.
> KEEP THEM TURNING IN THE SAME DIRECTION! said the sign in the tire shop,
> backed up by branding tire rotation in the side wall.
> Thirtyfive years in the trucking business taught me to pay attention to the
> small things.
>
> --
> Nick R.
> 76-23'Transmode-Norris
> Rear Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tire Rotation [message #112834 is a reply to message #112806] |
Sun, 23 January 2011 21:00 |
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USAussie
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Mike,
Got it! Thanks!
Since I live in Australia and Double Trouble is in the USA selling used
tires is going to be a bit complicated.
I'll just run 'em all for 7-10 years and then toss 'em.
Your rotation plan is the way I do it and the way GMC says to do it.
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Miller
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:34 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Tire Rotation
Run your 6 new tires for 4 years, then sell a 'set' of 4, 4 year old tires
on craigslist or ebay. Replace with 4 new tires. Then go to the 2 every 2
years, keeping the best one as the spare.*
My rotation would be from the front to the rear most to the middle. Keeping
the tires on the same side.
Why?
1. Our suspensions are hardest on the middle set of tires from the flex and
running into things. I like having the tires that are getting the most
abuse to be the next ones to be replaced.
2. I like the best tread on the drive tires. I like the next best tread on
the steering tires. On our GMC's... they are the same.
3. Very few of us are concerned with wearing out the tread on our tires so
"evening out the wear" isn't that much of a concern. But I have had
problems with tread separation after changing the rotational direction of
the tire.
* With changing out your spare every two years, it may make sense to have a
seventh wheel that matches your other 6. Could pay for itself, in fewer
un-mounting and re-mounting costs, after just a few tire swaps.
--
Mike Miller
#01 - `73 26' X Painted D. "The Spare"
#02 - `78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath "The User"
#03 - `77 23' Birchaven Side Bath "The Keeper"
Hillsboro, OR
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: Tire Rotation [message #112843 is a reply to message #112734] |
Sun, 23 January 2011 21:47 |
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| seven wrote on Sun, 23 January 2011 12:43 |
Anyone have insite on the tire rotation order?
Rear to the front, middle?
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Clock wise on the right, counterclockwise on the left. I have been told by the old times to not bother unless uneven wear becomes obvious. I would suspect the fronts would go first, but age is generally more of a problem than miles.
Hardie Johnson "Crashj"
1973 26 foot Glacier, White Thing
Raleigh NC
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