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MangoMushroom
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Hello Everyone,
Quick question about a steering issue I have:
After 2 months of sitting still in storage, my Birchaven has a sticky steering problem! When I turn the wheel to the right about 1/8 of the way, I encounter significant resistance in turning the wheel any further. Once I push through that resistance, it turns fine again. I checked the steering fluid, and the reservoir was low so I topped it off. May have been this way for awhile... Fluid level is correct now. I've turned the wheel back and forth dozens of times and the symptom persists.
Do I need all new fluid? Or perhaps it is the belt? The belt exhibits no whine as typical when alternator belt slips...
I believe the resistance occurs again once the steering wheel reaches a full 360 degree turn and approaches the 1/8 turn mark again. Also, the resistance is more pronounced when turning to the right than to the left. In fact, I believe turning left does not exhibit any stickiness now.
Any feedback is always greatly appreciated. Thanks and Happy New Year!!! 
****MangoMushroom
`76 GMC Birchaven named "Harvey"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Power Steering issue [message #111893 is a reply to message #111891] |
Thu, 13 January 2011 12:03  |
jimk
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Your costant vel. bearing is corroded and need to be replaced on the
lower steering coupler.
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andre Mandel <andre.mandel@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
>
> Quick question about a steering issue I have:
>
> After 2 months of sitting still in storage, my Birchaven has a sticky steering problem! When I turn the wheel to the right about 1/8 of the way, I encounter significant resistance in turning the wheel any further. Once I push through that resistance, it turns fine again. I checked the steering fluid, and the reservoir was low so I topped it off. May have been this way for awhile... Fluid level is correct now. I've turned the wheel back and forth dozens of times and the symptom persists.
>
> Do I need all new fluid? Or perhaps it is the belt? The belt exhibits no whine as typical when alternator belt slips...
>
> I believe the resistance occurs again once the steering wheel reaches a full 360 degree turn and approaches the 1/8 turn mark again. Also, the resistance is more pronounced when turning to the right than to the left. In fact, I believe turning left does not exhibit any stickiness now.
>
> Any feedback is always greatly appreciated. Thanks and Happy New Year!!! 8)
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> ****MangoMushroom
> `76 GMC Birchaven
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| Re: [GMCnet] Power Steering issue [message #111894 is a reply to message #111891] |
Thu, 13 January 2011 12:07 |
James Hupy
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Andre, sounds like the constant velocity U-joint in the steering shaft
located just above the steering box. Even with the boots on them if you do
not rtv the connector clamp, they will accumulate water and rust up.
Solution, take it off and clean it out and inspect it. re lube or replace as
necessary. When you reassemble, tighten the connector clamps securely and
seal around them with rtv. If the CV joint has seen better days, I think Jim
K has them in stock.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andre Mandel <andre.mandel@gmail.com>wrote:
>
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> Hello Everyone,
>
> Quick question about a steering issue I have:
>
> After 2 months of sitting still in storage, my Birchaven has a sticky
> steering problem! When I turn the wheel to the right about 1/8 of the way, I
> encounter significant resistance in turning the wheel any further. Once I
> push through that resistance, it turns fine again. I checked the steering
> fluid, and the reservoir was low so I topped it off. May have been this way
> for awhile... Fluid level is correct now. I've turned the wheel back and
> forth dozens of times and the symptom persists.
>
> Do I need all new fluid? Or perhaps it is the belt? The belt exhibits no
> whine as typical when alternator belt slips...
>
> I believe the resistance occurs again once the steering wheel reaches a
> full 360 degree turn and approaches the 1/8 turn mark again. Also, the
> resistance is more pronounced when turning to the right than to the left. In
> fact, I believe turning left does not exhibit any stickiness now.
>
> Any feedback is always greatly appreciated. Thanks and Happy New Year!!!
> 8)
>
>
> --
> ****MangoMushroom
> `76 GMC Birchaven
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| Re: [GMCnet] Power Steering issue [message #111907 is a reply to message #111894] |
Thu, 13 January 2011 13:41 |
Ken Henderson
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And for grease, be SURE you use one containing molybdenum sulfide
(MSO2), such as Valvoline Synpower. I had symptoms similar to yours
which were cured only with that type grease and have since known
several others to have similar results.
Ken H.
On 1/13/11, James Hupy wrote:
> Andre, sounds like the constant velocity U-joint in the steering shaft
> located just above the steering box. Even with the boots on them if you do
> not rtv the connector clamp, they will accumulate water and rust up.
> Solution, take it off and clean it out and inspect it. re lube or replace as
> necessary. When you reassemble, tighten the connector clamps securely and
> seal around them with rtv. If the CV joint has seen better days, I think Jim
> K has them in stock.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC Royale 403
>
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76 X-Birchaven
76 X-Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Power Steering issue [message #111928 is a reply to message #111907] |
Thu, 13 January 2011 16:37 |
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USAussie
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Ken,
Good advice (naturally) and I'd like to add a mod. Install a zerk in the top
flange of the CV joint and you can grease it regularly.
Rick Denny spotted that on Double Trouble and told me that was a great idea,
I confessed that was the way I got it. It was done by a PO or Ken Frey when
he got it ready for our first trip in the USA.
The Blue Streak doesn't have one installed, I will install one and take a
picture.
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Henderson
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 6:42 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Power Steering issue
And for grease, be SURE you use one containing molybdenum sulfide
(MSO2), such as Valvoline Synpower. I had symptoms similar to yours
which were cured only with that type grease and have since known
several others to have similar results.
Ken H.
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Power Steering issue [message #111940 is a reply to message #111928] |
Thu, 13 January 2011 18:13 |
gmcrv1
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Location: Memphis
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Rob,
So where's the pictures of the zerk fittings.
For the technically impaired! lol
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland. TN
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:
> Ken,
>
> Good advice (naturally) and I'd like to add a mod. Install a zerk in the
> top
> flange of the CV joint and you can grease it regularly.
>
> Rick Denny spotted that on Double Trouble and told me that was a great
> idea,
> I confessed that was the way I got it. It was done by a PO or Ken Frey when
> he got it ready for our first trip in the USA.
>
> The Blue Streak doesn't have one installed, I will install one and take a
> picture.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Henderson
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 6:42 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Power Steering issue
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> And for grease, be SURE you use one containing molybdenum sulfide
> (MSO2), such as Valvoline Synpower. I had symptoms similar to yours
> which were cured only with that type grease and have since known
> several others to have similar results.
>
> Ken H.
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>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Power Steering issue [message #111943 is a reply to message #111940] |
Thu, 13 January 2011 18:51 |
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USAussie
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Tom,
In the top of the CV joint in Double Trouble 8,585 miles (as the crow flies)
from Sydney. ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Tom Eckert
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 11:14 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Power Steering issue
Rob,
So where's the pictures of the zerk fittings.
For the technically impaired! lol
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland. TN
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: Power Steering issue [message #111980 is a reply to message #111891] |
Fri, 14 January 2011 06:26 |
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Matt Colie
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Hey Mango,
Could you do us a favor and take the picture out of your sig file?
When I open the thread on my smartphone's browser, it takes so long to load that I have to kill the app and start over.
Thanks
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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