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Mon, 10 January 2011 15:54  |
jade
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My neighbor has a 1977 Kinsley.
He asked me to check the timing before we go to Casa Grande rally.
It had a definite miss, so I pulled the plugs.
# 5 was fouled with oil deposit with 0 compression.
Ran a compression test & all cylinders were good except # 5.
Put air in cylinder to see if it was valves or piston.
No air at carb. or exhaust manifold but lots of air from oil pan.
Definitely a piston.
His health is not the best so he does not want to stick thousands into an
engine rebuild.
I said I would get on line & see if anybody has a working 403 that we could
put in.
We are in southwestern AZ.
Waiting to hear from anyone.
JADE
73 23'??
73 26' Painted Desert
Ajo, AZ.
KC7QGC
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403 [message #111561 is a reply to message #111559] |
Mon, 10 January 2011 16:27  |
Dennis S
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Paul Levitt has had a 403 available -- but he is in southern Missouri...
Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Decheine <jade@tabletoptelephone.com>
To: GMC List <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Mon, Jan 10, 2011 3:54 pm
Subject: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403
My neighbor has a 1977 Kinsley.
e asked me to check the timing before we go to Casa Grande rally.
t had a definite miss, so I pulled the plugs.
5 was fouled with oil deposit with 0 compression.
an a compression test & all cylinders were good except # 5.
ut air in cylinder to see if it was valves or piston.
o air at carb. or exhaust manifold but lots of air from oil pan.
efinitely a piston.
is health is not the best so he does not want to stick thousands into an
ngine rebuild.
said I would get on line & see if anybody has a working 403 that we could
ut in.
e are in southwestern AZ.
aiting to hear from anyone.
JADE
3 23'??
3 26' Painted Desert
jo, AZ.
C7QGC
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73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403 [message #111571 is a reply to message #111559] |
Mon, 10 January 2011 17:18 |
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Do you think the rings lined up? If he has the facilities to do an engine swap, would he also have the ability to pull a head and piston and see how bad it is before swapping it out?
Randy
1973 26' Painted Desert
Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403 [message #111576 is a reply to message #111559] |
Mon, 10 January 2011 17:49 |
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| jade wrote on Mon, 10 January 2011 15:54 |
My neighbor has a 1977 Kinsley.
He asked me to check the timing before we go to Casa Grande rally.
It had a definite miss, so I pulled the plugs.
# 5 was fouled with oil deposit with 0 compression.
Ran a compression test & all cylinders were good except # 5.
Put air in cylinder to see if it was valves or piston.
No air at carb. or exhaust manifold but lots of air from oil pan.
Definitely a piston.
His health is not the best so he does not want to stick thousands into an
engine rebuild.
I said I would get on line & see if anybody has a working 403 that we could
put in.
We are in southwestern AZ.
Waiting to hear from anyone.
JADE
73 23'??
73 26' Painted Desert
Ajo, AZ.
KC7QGC
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there is a good 403 in Pensacola, Fl. contact John Nicholls:
johnrita1 AT cox.net
just correct the address.
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403 [message #111581 is a reply to message #111566] |
Mon, 10 January 2011 18:03 |
Dennis S
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Email for Paul -- GMCnet screen name g.winger....
leavittpaul @ yahoo dot com remove spaces and change dot to .
Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Decheine <jade@tabletoptelephone.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Mon, Jan 10, 2011 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403
Do you have a contact # or email address?
hanks.
ADE
3 23'??
3 26' Painted Desert
jo, AZ.
C7QGC
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rom: "Dennis S" <dennisfsexton@aol.com>
o: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
ent: Monday, January 10, 2011 3:27 PM
ubject: Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403
Paul Levitt has had a 403 available -- but he is in southern Missouri...
Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Decheine <jade@tabletoptelephone.com>
To: GMC List <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Mon, Jan 10, 2011 3:54 pm
Subject: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403
My neighbor has a 1977 Kinsley.
e asked me to check the timing before we go to Casa Grande rally.
t had a definite miss, so I pulled the plugs.
5 was fouled with oil deposit with 0 compression.
an a compression test & all cylinders were good except # 5.
ut air in cylinder to see if it was valves or piston.
o air at carb. or exhaust manifold but lots of air from oil pan.
efinitely a piston.
is health is not the best so he does not want to stick thousands into an
ngine rebuild.
said I would get on line & see if anybody has a working 403 that we could
ut in.
e are in southwestern AZ.
aiting to hear from anyone.
JADE
73 23'??
73 26' Painted Desert
Ajo, AZ.
KC7QGC
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Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403 [message #111591 is a reply to message #111581] |
Mon, 10 January 2011 18:50 |
jade
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Thanks Dennis;
I will give him a try.
JADE
73 23'??
73 26' Painted Desert
Ajo, AZ.
KC7QGC
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From: "Dennis S" <dennisfsexton@aol.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403
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> Email for Paul -- GMCnet screen name g.winger....
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> leavittpaul @ yahoo dot com remove spaces and change dot to .
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> Dennis Sexton
> 73 GMC
> Germantown, TN
> USA
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Decheine <jade@tabletoptelephone.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Mon, Jan 10, 2011 4:52 pm
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403
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> Do you have a contact # or email address?
> hanks.
> ADE
> 3 23'??
> 3 26' Painted Desert
> jo, AZ.
> C7QGC
> ----- Original Message -----
> rom: "Dennis S" <dennisfsexton@aol.com>
> o: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> ent: Monday, January 10, 2011 3:27 PM
> ubject: Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403
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> Paul Levitt has had a 403 available -- but he is in southern Missouri...
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> Dennis Sexton
> 73 GMC
> Germantown, TN
> USA
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Decheine <jade@tabletoptelephone.com>
> To: GMC List <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 10, 2011 3:54 pm
> Subject: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403
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> My neighbor has a 1977 Kinsley.
> e asked me to check the timing before we go to Casa Grande rally.
> t had a definite miss, so I pulled the plugs.
> 5 was fouled with oil deposit with 0 compression.
> an a compression test & all cylinders were good except # 5.
> ut air in cylinder to see if it was valves or piston.
> o air at carb. or exhaust manifold but lots of air from oil pan.
> efinitely a piston.
> is health is not the best so he does not want to stick thousands into an
> ngine rebuild.
> said I would get on line & see if anybody has a working 403 that we could
> ut in.
> e are in southwestern AZ.
> aiting to hear from anyone.
> JADE
> 73 23'??
> 73 26' Painted Desert
> Ajo, AZ.
> KC7QGC
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403 [message #111593 is a reply to message #111559] |
Mon, 10 January 2011 19:17 |
Bob de Kruyff
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| jade wrote on Mon, 10 January 2011 14:54 |
My neighbor has a 1977 Kinsley.
He asked me to check the timing before we go to Casa Grande rally.
It had a definite miss, so I pulled the plugs.
# 5 was fouled with oil deposit with 0 compression.
Ran a compression test & all cylinders were good except # 5.
Put air in cylinder to see if it was valves or piston.
No air at carb. or exhaust manifold but lots of air from oil pan.
Definitely a piston.
His health is not the best so he does not want to stick thousands into an
engine rebuild.
I said I would get on line & see if anybody has a working 403 that we could
put in.
We are in southwestern AZ.
Waiting to hear from anyone.
JADE
73 23'??
73 26' Painted Desert
Ajo, AZ.
KC7QGC
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Other than the oil pan I don't think the GMC 403 was different from passenger car versions. You should be able to find one locally with no problem. You may want to read this and also click on the heads and cam section. The 403 did not use a low intake like 455's did.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403 [message #111606 is a reply to message #111593] |
Mon, 10 January 2011 20:31 |
Carl S.
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| Bob de Kruyff wrote on Mon, 10 January 2011 18:17 |
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Other than the oil pan I don't think the GMC 403 was different from passenger car versions. You should be able to find one locally with no problem. You may want to read this and also click on the heads and cam section. The 403 did not use a low intake like 455's did.[/quote]
Jim,
Bob has a good point. Since you are almost the same distance from Tucson or Phoenix, you can probably find a 403 at a salvage yard a lot closer than MO. or FL. Problem is, you wouldn't have any idea of the history and would be at the mercy of the salvage yard operator. If you like, I can have my mechanic friend check his sources in Tucson for one.
See you in Casa Grande!
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403 [message #111614 is a reply to message #111610] |
Mon, 10 January 2011 20:54 |
Carl S.
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Jim,
Here's a 455 in Tucson. It looks like it may have come out of a Toronado
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403 [message #111654 is a reply to message #111606] |
Tue, 11 January 2011 12:26 |
jade
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Carl;
Not knowing the history of the engine from a salvage yard is my only issue.
I trust Paul to tell me the history of his engine and would pay the freight
from Mo.
knowing I have a good engine thus doing the job only once.
If you trust your mechanic friend, I don't have a problem with him checking.
Let me know.
JADE
73 23'??
73 26' Painted Desert
Ajo, AZ.
KC7QGC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Stouffer" <carljr3b@yahoo.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403
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> Bob de Kruyff wrote on Mon, 10 January 2011 18:17
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> Other than the oil pan I don't think the GMC 403 was different from
> passenger car versions. You should be able to find one locally with no
> problem. You may want to read this and also click on the heads and cam
> section. The 403 did not use a low intake like 455's did.[/quote]
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> Jim,
>
> Bob has a good point. Since you are almost the same distance from Tucson
> or Phoenix, you can probably find a 403 at a salvage yard a lot closer
> than MO. of FL. Problem is, you wouldn't have any idea of the history and
> would be at the mercy of the salvage yard operator. If you like, I can
> have my mechanic friend check his sources in Tucson for one.
>
> See you in Casa Grande!
> --
> Carl S.
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403 [message #111659 is a reply to message #111654] |
Tue, 11 January 2011 13:10 |
Carl S.
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| jade wrote on Tue, 11 January 2011 11:26 |
Carl;
Not knowing the history of the engine from a salvage yard is my only issue.
I trust Paul to tell me the history of his engine and would pay the freight
from Mo.
knowing I have a good engine thus doing the job only once.
If you trust your mechanic friend, I don't have a problem with him checking.
Let me know.
JADE
73 23'??
73 26' Painted Desert
Ajo, AZ.
KC7QGC
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Jim,
I trust my mechanic buddy, but I'm not sure even he could provide any kind of history on a junk yard engine. I suspect he would be at the mercy of his sources just as you and I would. I will call him and see what he has to say, but you might be better off just getting Paul L's engine shipped.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403 [message #111660 is a reply to message #111654] |
Tue, 11 January 2011 13:15 |
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Jim,
List it on uShip, the Caddy 500 crate and three other boxes wound up costing
me around $500. I listed it for 10 days and by the 6th the price had dropped
from $1500 to $500!
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim Decheine
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:27 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403
Carl;
Not knowing the history of the engine from a salvage yard is my only issue.
I trust Paul to tell me the history of his engine and would pay the freight
from Mo.
knowing I have a good engine thus doing the job only once.
If you trust your mechanic friend, I don't have a problem with him checking.
Let me know.
JADE
73 23'??
73 26' Painted Desert
Ajo, AZ.
KC7QGC
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403 [message #111661 is a reply to message #111660] |
Tue, 11 January 2011 13:18 |
jade
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Thanks Rob;
I'm working on the freight now.
Have a quote of $422.
Still shopping.
JADE
73 23'??
73 26' Painted Desert
Ajo, AZ.
KC7QGC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403
> Jim,
>
> List it on uShip, the Caddy 500 crate and three other boxes wound up
> costing
> me around $500. I listed it for 10 days and by the 6th the price had
> dropped
> from $1500 to $500!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim Decheine
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:27 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Looking for a 403
>
> Carl;
> Not knowing the history of the engine from a salvage yard is my only
> issue.
> I trust Paul to tell me the history of his engine and would pay the
> freight
> from Mo.
> knowing I have a good engine thus doing the job only once.
> If you trust your mechanic friend, I don't have a problem with him
> checking.
> Let me know.
> JADE
> 73 23'??
> 73 26' Painted Desert
> Ajo, AZ.
> KC7QGC
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