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| E-mail address leak problem [message #111409] |
Sun, 09 January 2011 08:29  |
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Matt Colie
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I don't even know to whom I should address this.
When a E-mail reader responds to a posting, it seems that the posters @ddress of record gets included in the quoted message header. When this response shows up in the forum, the @ddress is then clearly visible to public access. Spambots can and will grab it.
This can be a problem. I am about to bury my primary @ddress as it is now useless due to 60~80 filter-proof messages a day (over 300 in the trap). Changing out this account will be a major headache and will require several month's attention.
This is not an issue at all with the forum traffic. There the quoted text shows only the user name.
If you are an E-mail reader - please, until this gets changed - and are quoting a posting (I happen to think that is a good idea), wipe the @ddress from the header of the quoted message.
Later today I will be changing my stored @ddress to my never-read account. (You should have one of these.)
Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] E-mail address leak problem [message #111418 is a reply to message #111414] |
Sun, 09 January 2011 09:54  |
Mr ERFisher
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me too, me too
try gmail, (you can even get it to read your old email address so you do not
have to change it) and gmail removes spam and archives your mail forever is
a separate location (archive). I never delete emails, just archive them.
give it a try first
gene
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Terry Skinner <gmcnut@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry, but I am at a loss as to what you are trying to accomplish. I
> think most people are like me. I have two e-mail accounts. All my GMC
> stuff goes thru my gmail account where the filters are set to dump all
> but GMC text. And a MSN account that is for personal/family mail where
> I get most of my offers of millions of dollars from Africa and there
> again with the filters set pretty high the amount of spam is maybe one
> or two a week. Hardly worth bothering with. Granted I am not very good
> with computers but I do know that two years is the life expectancy of
> this computer. By that time all the cracks and crevices have been
> explored by the spamers and it is time for a new working system. Just
> my left-handed way of handling e-mail...........Terry
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> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Matt Colie < > wrote:
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> >
> > I don't even know to whom I should address this.
> >
> > When a E-mail reader responds to a posting, it seems that the posters
> @ddress of record gets included in the quoted message header. When this
> response shows up in the forum, the @ddress is then clearly visible to
> public access. Spambots can and will grab it.
> >
> > This can be a problem. I am about to bury my primary @ddress as it is
> now useless due to 60~80 filter-proof messages a day (over 300 in the trap).
> Changing out this account will be a major headache and will require several
> month's attention.
> >
> > This is not an issue at all with the forum traffic. There the quoted text
> shows only the user name.
> >
> > If you are an E-mail reader - please, until this gets changed - and are
> quoting a posting (I happen to think that is a good idea), wipe the @ddress
> from the header of the quoted message.
> >
> > Later today I will be changing my stored @ddress to my never-read
> account. (You should have one of these.)
> >
> > Matt
> > --
> > Matt & Mary Colie
> > '73 Glacier 23 Chaumiere (say show-me-air)
> > SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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>
> --
> Terry Skinner
> 253-686-2624
> Roy. Washington
> '76 GMC
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| Re: E-mail address leak problem [message #111426 is a reply to message #111409] |
Sun, 09 January 2011 11:15 |
Bob de Kruyff
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""This is not an issue at all with the forum traffic. There the quoted text shows only the user name"
Darn--no wonder no one loves me!
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] E-mail address leak problem [message #111428 is a reply to message #111421] |
Sun, 09 January 2011 11:29 |
k2gkk
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Both Hotmail and Juno offer the option of
"Exclusive" on your inbox. If that is set,
only messages from pre-approved senders or
those that are in your address books get
to your actual Inbox directly. The rest
go to a "Junk Mail" folder. This does offer
a bit of a problem in that you need to check
that Junk Mail at least once a day to see
if some of what is there is mail that you
want. For an example, a private message
from a previously "not approved" GMC list
member.
You just have to look over what it is and
then take appropriate action. Hotmail give
you an option to mark incoming junk messages
as "Phishing" and report it to MSN.
Yeah, some of it is a nuisance, but very little
actually shows up in my inbox.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: armand@minniebiz.com
> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 10:07:44 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] E-mail address leak problem
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> Matt,
> The amount of SPAM is directly related to your email provider. I have gone from over 300 spams per day to about 2 now because I switched providers. I also retrieve my messages through gmail so I get double spam detection help.
> --
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> Marana, AZ
> '76 Eleganza II
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| Re: GMail accounts for calling, email and video chat [message #111456 is a reply to message #111427] |
Sun, 09 January 2011 16:05 |
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Matt Colie
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The problem is simple.
We are now cursed with spammers that are very hard to block if you want to have use of that @ddress at all. I have one account that gets no spam at all. It does not get anything and I never read it - either.
The account that gets huge numbers is still usable only because the ISP has a very intelligent filter system, and it traps about 95%, so, about 10 a day get through.
My Gmail accounts are relatively new and they already get spam. Sure, once you indicate that it is spam, that sender is blocked, but there are 150million Nigerians and every one seems to have that @ddress.
Sure you can have other @ddresses (at last count, I had 9). When I make my "never-read" account the account of record here, then I will NEVER get a Private Message. Patrick will not be able to tell me when Charter is kicking back again. I won't get neat - Off Net - notes.
I guess that is the only solution.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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| Re: GMail accounts for calling, email and video chat [message #111463 is a reply to message #111456] |
Sun, 09 January 2011 17:12 |
Erv Troyer
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| matt colie wrote on Sun, 09 January 2011 16:05 |
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Sure you can have other @ddresses (at last count, I had 9). When I make my "never-read" account the account of record here, then I will NEVER get a Private Message. Patrick will not be able to tell me when Charter is kicking back again. I won't get neat - Off Net - notes.
Matt
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There is one thing I don't like about replying to messages on this Forum - I can't send a copy of that message to an individuals email address. Ken B. told me you can do it, but I forgot how, and I believe it is actually sent as a "Private Message" on this Forum.
The "Private Message" feature is a joke (in my opinion). I recently found several private messages to me that were over a year old, and I'm not going to reply to them. I do not check my message box - if you want to contact me you should use my email - my address is below as part of my signature, and also listed in my GMC account information.
I have had this email address as my main address for at least 20 years, with various ISP's (I would never use an ISP as my email address). AOL does a good job of filtering out junk mail. I have several other emails, one which I never read, and others that I read about once a month or less.
Matt, I do agree with your original intent -- when one replies to a message you should make sure that there are no email addresses in the body of the reply.
And don't forget to use the BCC (blind carbon copy) box if your email is going to a lot of people.
Erv Troyer Lagrange, IN
74 Sequoia
reo43@aol.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] E-mail address leak problem [message #111611 is a reply to message #111409] |
Mon, 10 January 2011 20:41 |
GMC_LES
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I wonder if there is a way to filter all posts to the forum so that email addresses containing the "@" are automatically replaced with *******@*******. Most of us wanting to post our addresses already use "at" & "dot" in our text. This should reduce spamBot abuse to a tolerate level.
Les Burt
Sent from my iPhone
On 2011-01-09, at 9:29 AM, Matt Colie <mcolie@chartermi.net> wrote:
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> I don't even know to whom I should address this.
>
> When a E-mail reader responds to a posting, it seems that the posters @ddress of record gets included in the quoted message header. When this response shows up in the forum, the @ddress is then clearly visible to public access. Spambots can and will grab it.
>
> This can be a problem. I am about to bury my primary @ddress as it is now useless due to 60~80 filter-proof messages a day (over 300 in the trap). Changing out this account will be a major headache and will require several month's attention.
>
> This is not an issue at all with the forum traffic. There the quoted text shows only the user name.
>
> If you are an E-mail reader - please, until this gets changed - and are quoting a posting (I happen to think that is a good idea), wipe the @ddress from the header of the quoted message.
>
> Later today I will be changing my stored @ddress to my never-read account. (You should have one of these.)
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie
> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumiere (say show-me-air)
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] E-mail address leak problem [message #111613 is a reply to message #111611] |
Mon, 10 January 2011 20:50 |
Patrick Flowers
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I was thinking along these lines also. Lyris ListManager had that
functionality, but Mailman doesn't. I don't think Fudforum supports it
either. If we could just configure both systems replace the "@" with
another nonsense character that the spambots would ignore.
Patrick
On Mon, January 10, 2011 9:41 pm, Les Burt wrote:
> I wonder if there is a way to filter all posts to the forum so that email
> addresses containing the "@" are automatically replaced with
> *******@*******. Most of us wanting to post our addresses already use
> "at" & "dot" in our text. This should reduce spamBot abuse to a tolerate
> level.
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