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Gary Cottingame
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Dan
You got me thinking there about the 40 miles. So I [with nothing else to do this 25 degree north Texas motning] decied to look into it. By a Yahoo search of "why are towns 40 miles apart in Arizona, this is the best I came up with.
Consider the fact that that those roads in the 1800's were stagecoack routes and the best terrain for a team of horses and the endurance of a days "run" for that team of horses. It was determined that after about 40 miles [8 to 12 hours] the horses would be worn out. So the stagecoach outposts were built about 40 miles apart to change teams of horses. Therefore the old saying "about a days ride from here." So around the turn of the last century when the began building roads for automobiles, it stands to reason that the best routes (in their minds) were already out by the "stagecoach owners", and thus we have the 40 mile distane between Benson and Stafford.
Go to this website and scroll down about 1/3 way for a post by *the GORB* and you'll find stagecoach maps for AZ, NM, & TX.
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=140613
Be glad your in Teri's VIB orn your GMC and not on horseback.
((GMC content))
Gary
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Denison, Tx
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| Re: [GMCnet] 40 Miles to Safford, so GMC content.. [message #110474 is a reply to message #110472] |
Sat, 01 January 2011 09:07  |
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Originally the county seats in Kentucky were, by constitution, within a
day's ride of any point in the county.
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
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Gary Cottingame wrote:
> Dan
>
> You got me thinking there about the 40 miles. So I [with nothing else to do
> this 25 degree north Texas motning] decied to look into it. By a Yahoo search
> of "why are towns 40 miles apart in Arizona, this is the best I came up with.
>
> Consider the fact that that those roads in the 1800's were stagecoack routes
> and the best terrain for a team of horses and the endurance of a days "run"
> for that team of horses. It was determined that after about 40 miles [8 to 12
> hours] the horses would be worn out. So the stagecoach outposts were built
> about 40 miles apart to change teams of horses. Therefore the old saying
> "about a days ride from here." So around the turn of the last century when
> the began building roads for automobiles, it stands to reason that the best
> routes (in their minds) were already out by the "stagecoach owners", and thus
> we have the 40 mile distane between Benson and Stafford.
>
> Go to this website and scroll down about 1/3 way for a post by *the GORB* and
> you'll find stagecoach maps for AZ, NM, & TX.
>
> http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=140613
>
> Be glad your in Teri's VIB orn your GMC and not on horseback.
> ((GMC content))
>
> Gary
> tze21
> Denison, Tx
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| Re: [GMCnet] 40 Miles to Safford, so GMC content.. [message #110476 is a reply to message #110474] |
Sat, 01 January 2011 09:13 |
Gary Cottingame
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Byron,
Great rason ! And considering that my is from Letcher county, Whitesburg, Ky, some folds had to cross the Aplachains and that took some time.
Gary
tze-21
Denison, Tx
--- On Sat, 1/1/11, Byron Songer <bsonger@songerconsulting.net> wrote:
> From: Byron Songer <bsonger@songerconsulting.net>
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 40 Miles to Safford, so GMC content..
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Saturday, January 1, 2011, 9:07 AM
> Originally the county seats in
> Kentucky were, by constitution, within a
> day's ride of any point in the county.
>
> Byron Songer
> 1978 Royale by Coachmen
> Louisville, KY
> Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
>
>
>
> Gary Cottingame wrote:
>
> > Dan
> >
> > You got me thinking there about the 40 miles. So I
> [with nothing else to do
> > this 25 degree north Texas motning] decied to look
> into it. By a Yahoo search
> > of "why are towns 40 miles apart in Arizona, this is
> the best I came up with.
> >
> > Consider the fact that that those roads in the 1800's
> were stagecoack routes
> > and the best terrain for a team of horses and the
> endurance of a days "run"
> > for that team of horses. It was determined that after
> about 40 miles [8 to 12
> > hours] the horses would be worn out. So the
> stagecoach outposts were built
> > about 40 miles apart to change teams of horses.
> Therefore the old saying
> > "about a days ride from here." So around the turn
> of the last century when
> > the began building roads for automobiles, it stands to
> reason that the best
> > routes (in their minds) were already out by the
> "stagecoach owners", and thus
> > we have the 40 mile distane between Benson and
> Stafford.
> >
> > Go to this website and scroll down about 1/3 way for a
> post by *the GORB* and
> > you'll find stagecoach maps for AZ, NM, & TX.
> >
> > http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=140613
> >
> > Be glad your in Teri's VIB orn your GMC and not on
> horseback.
> > ((GMC content))
> >
> > Gary
> > tze21
> > Denison, Tx
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| Re: [GMCnet] 40 Miles to Safford, so GMC content.. [message #110495 is a reply to message #110472] |
Sat, 01 January 2011 11:02 |
Steven Ferguson
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Gary,
Don't forget about the Forts and Camps. All were spaced a days march
apart. Not all of the US Army rode horses..
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Gary Cottingame <gcottingame@yahoo.com>wrote:
> Dan
>
> You got me thinking there about the 40 miles. So I [with nothing else to do
> this 25 degree north Texas motning] decied to look into it. By a Yahoo
> search of "why are towns 40 miles apart in Arizona, this is the best I came
> up with.
>
> Consider the fact that that those roads in the 1800's were stagecoack
> routes and the best terrain for a team of horses and the endurance of a days
> "run" for that team of horses. It was determined that after about 40 miles
> [8 to 12 hours] the horses would be worn out. So the stagecoach outposts
> were built about 40 miles apart to change teams of horses. Therefore the old
> saying "about a days ride from here." So around the turn of the last
> century when the began building roads for automobiles, it stands to reason
> that the best routes (in their minds) were already out by the "stagecoach
> owners", and thus we have the 40 mile distane between Benson and Stafford.
>
> Go to this website and scroll down about 1/3 way for a post by *the GORB*
> and you'll find stagecoach maps for AZ, NM, & TX.
>
> http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=140613
>
> Be glad your in Teri's VIB orn your GMC and not on horseback.
> ((GMC content))
>
> Gary
> tze21
> Denison, Tx
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| Re: [GMCnet] 40 Miles to Safford, so GMC content.. [message #110514 is a reply to message #110506] |
Sat, 01 January 2011 15:53 |
Gary Cottingame
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Right, but the pony express and the stagecoach came before the trains. I win..
LOL
Gary
tze-21
Denison, tx
--- On Sat, 1/1/11, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 40 Miles to Safford, so GMC content..
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Saturday, January 1, 2011, 12:58 PM
Gary took this from my blog yesterday, just so yall know.
The trains needed water every 40 miles. They put up water towers for them so they could grab water and keep moving. Towns sprang up as there was work from the RR. Saloons, cat houses, and well, you know how it went. No GMC content just a little quiz that I threw in on the blog. Got several responses, thanks.
Dan
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| Re: [GMCnet] 40 Miles to Safford, so GMC content.. [message #110922 is a reply to message #110506] |
Tue, 04 January 2011 19:36 |
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One thing you forgot - section houses (track maintenance) were 16 miles
apart. The gandy dancers worked (walked) 8 miles each way from the
section house where they lived. They usually had a siding for meeting
trains to pass (many of the sidings survive today).
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Greeley, CO
1973 CanyonLands 260 TZE-063V100731(under renovation)
1973 Glacier 230 TZE-033V101993
On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 12:58 -0600, Dan Gregg wrote:
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> Gary took this from my blog yesterday, just so yall know.
> The trains needed water every 40 miles. They put up water towers for them so they could grab water and keep moving. Towns sprang up as there was work from the RR. Saloons, cat houses, and well, you know how it went. No GMC content just a little quiz that I threw in on the blog. Got several responses, thanks.
> Dan
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