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Steering wheel, headliner, and inactivity [message #108869] Sat, 18 December 2010 16:33 Go to next message
LNelson is currently offline  LNelson   United States
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I went to look at a PB (TZE167V101992 for Dave G) that has sat for about 6 years, a 77' with 403, 40k on the speedo.

Steering wheel is completely deteriorated so I wonder what a replacement would run. Also, the headliner needs replacement (about 50% of it is shot). I am asking what a pro charges for a headliner.

The coach looks clean and straight but the sun has done a number on it.

My wife would love for me to get rid of the bus (I am not convinced) so I am "sniffing" around the GMC's that are for sale in my immediate neighborhood.

This owner emphasizes that this is a "project" and will have to be towed from the storage lot. I am wanting to see what the two items above will run, then decide if I want to run thru all of the systems and wake up this beast after it's long nap.



Larry Nelson Springfield, MO Ex GMC'er, then GM Busnut now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
Re: Steering wheel, headliner, and inactivity [message #108870 is a reply to message #108869] Sat, 18 December 2010 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Larry, sounds like to me that you should be getting that coach for a song and a dance. If so, those things are negligible. My steering wheel is from a 64 GMC pickup and looks much nicer than the s-10 wheels, in my opinion. Steering wheels are a dime a dozen. The headliner is something anyone can do with a little patience and time. I have lots of time, at the moment, but little patience so mine is not getting done this winter unless Teri gets all fired up and boots me into gear. You have a younger wife who can assist you with some of the interior work, so try to grab that coach for as little as you can.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Steering wheel, headliner, and inactivity [message #108872 is a reply to message #108869] Sat, 18 December 2010 16:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nelson Wright is currently offline  Nelson Wright   United States
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Larry,
The steering wheel and headliner are very minor projects on a
motorhome that the owner says has to be towed from the storage lot in
my estimation. There are many GM steering wheels that fit the
motorhome as well as many good GMC MH steering wheels that are
available from those that have updated theirs. Also the headliner
replacement isn't rocket science either. BTW it would help to know
where your "immediate neighborhood" is?
Welcome to the "Net"

Nelson Wright
Orlando FL
78 Royale rear bath


On Dec 18, 2010, at 5:33 PM, Larry Nelson wrote:

>
>
> I went to look at a PB (TZE167V101992 for Dave G) that has sat for
> about 6 years, a 77' with 403, 40k on the speedo.
>
> Steering wheel is completely deteriorated so I wonder what a
> replacement would run. Also, the headliner needs replacement (about
> 50% of it is shot). I am asking what a pro charges for a headliner.
>
> The coach looks clean and straight but the sun has done a number on
> it.
>
> My wife would love for me to get rid of the bus (I am not convinced)
> so I am "sniffing" around the GMC's that are for sale in my
> immediate neighborhood.
>
> This owner emphasizes that this is a "project" and will have to be
> towed from the storage lot. I am wanting to see what the two items
> above will run, then decide if I want to run thru all of the systems
> and wake up this beast after it's long nap.
>
>
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Re: Steering wheel, headliner, and inactivity [message #108873 is a reply to message #108869] Sat, 18 December 2010 17:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
carguy is currently offline  carguy   United States
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My advise is that you will be way ahead in both time and money to take your time and look for a decent coach that is not a "project" unless you are looking for a new hobby of working on an old motorhome.

A motorhome is not like a car - just getting it to run and stop reliably is only half (or less) of the concerns. There are many other systems that need to work well before you will enjoy using your coach.

That said I complement you on your leaning toward the Classic GMC. It is a great coach, the owners are amazingly friendly and helpful, and there is a very good established network of folks who supply parts and do service.


Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
Coshocton OH
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Re: Steering wheel, headliner, and inactivity [message #108874 is a reply to message #108873] Sat, 18 December 2010 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LNelson is currently offline  LNelson   United States
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Bill, I am a former "GMC netter" and got rid of my coach when I thought I wanted something bigger. I went all thru my old PB (a '75) and drove it all over the US.

I went thru my 4106 GM bus and have it 80% converted but have used it from the "get go".

This Owner is absentee, lives far from here. I think he is a bit worried about liability. Frankly, if it starts (and runs), I would not hesitate to drive it the 50 miles to my garage (after checking out the systems).

Dan, my wife IS younger....(maybe your age, ha ha).


Larry Nelson Springfield, MO Ex GMC'er, then GM Busnut now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
Re: Steering wheel, headliner, and inactivity [message #108875 is a reply to message #108869] Sat, 18 December 2010 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dan Borlase is currently offline  Dan Borlase   Canada
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...hate to say it...but the wheel, and headliner are probably "the small stuff" when it comes to a GMC that has been siting for a "while".

A good wheel can be had at any auto wrecker for about $10 buxs or so. My wife and I replaced the head liner in our 78 PB by using the old peaces as templates. We used door skins found at building supply stores, and covered the cut out "skins" with headliner fabric bought from an auto apholstery shop. If you choose to do this be sure to ask the apholstery shop what they recomend as the best spray contact cement. There are other type of headliner materials to choose from ...this is just what we did.

You will have to drop all of the cabinetts to have access to the headliner, but it is easer than you might think.

Labor is the most expencive part, materials will range with what ever your choise is....$200. to $400. buxs

Dan...who believes we can do most thing ourselves...Borlase
Re: Steering wheel, headliner, and inactivity [message #108876 is a reply to message #108873] Sat, 18 December 2010 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nelson, Larry is in Springfield, Mo, 220 miles west of our home.
Bill, Larry is a previous owner who sold out and went with the bus. I have been aggrivating him for 2-3 years to get another GMC. He has been to our home and is real asset for GMC owners. He is very capable of doing this kind of work, which surprized me that he even threw out such trivial stuff to the net. I think he just needs us to encourage him to once again become one of "us". Normally I would agree with just what you say Bill about buying a ready made GMC. But, this time, knowing Larry, I think he might be doing this right.
Dan


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Re: Steering wheel, headliner, and inactivity [message #108877 is a reply to message #108874] Sat, 18 December 2010 17:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan, my wife IS younger....(maybe your age, ha ha). [/quote]


She is a youngster if she is 56, but I know that you are not much older. Just giving you a hard time.
If we were in Mo. I would come over and give you a hand getting it home.
dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Steering wheel, headliner, and inactivity [message #108896 is a reply to message #108869] Sat, 18 December 2010 20:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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As you have found out, you can get a GMC steering wheel at a junk yard
unless you want an original in good shape. I have one of those. I put a GMC
mini van wheel on mine. Some have rubber on the wheel and some, more rare,
have leather.

Headliner - You ask what a pro would charge. Southland in Buford, GA charged
me a little less than $1,000. If you have the room to work on it, a Palm
Beach is easier to deal with than a Royale. Many on here have replaced
theirs. There are lots of photos on the photo site to help in guiding you.
Some guys have even put wood on their ceilings.

Consider it a plus that it's a 77 -- better dash air.

Byron Songer
1978 Royale
Louisville, KY


Larry Nelson wrote:

>
>
> I went to look at a PB (TZE167V101992 for Dave G) that has sat for about 6
> years, a 77' with 403, 40k on the speedo.
>
> Steering wheel is completely deteriorated so I wonder what a replacement would
> run. Also, the headliner needs replacement (about 50% of it is shot). I am
> asking what a pro charges for a headliner.
>
> The coach looks clean and straight but the sun has done a number on it.
>
> My wife would love for me to get rid of the bus (I am not convinced) so I am
> "sniffing" around the GMC's that are for sale in my immediate neighborhood.
>
> This owner emphasizes that this is a "project" and will have to be towed from
> the storage lot. I am wanting to see what the two items above will run, then
> decide if I want to run thru all of the systems and wake up this beast after
> it's long nap.
>
>
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Re: Steering wheel, headliner, and inactivity [message #108954 is a reply to message #108869] Sun, 19 December 2010 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry Larry, I didn't recognize you as a long time GMC'er. My Bad.

Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
Coshocton OH
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Re: [GMCnet] Steering wheel, headliner, and inactivity [message #108979 is a reply to message #108954] Sun, 19 December 2010 12:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bill,

While perusing the photo site, I couldn't help but notice some '55, '56 and
'57 Tbird parts in the background at your shop. Are you the same Bill Brown
that also does the old birds? Bought my first '56 in 1970 - and still have
it. Sorry I didn't recognize you as a long time tbirder!

Now I'm doing this GMC thing...

Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN

Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Bill Brown <carguybill@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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> Sorry Larry, I didn't recognize you as a long time GMC'er. My Bad.
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Re: Steering wheel, headliner, and inactivity [message #108997 is a reply to message #108954] Sun, 19 December 2010 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Absolutely no problem, Bill....I love this forum, it is absolutely the BEST of it's kind on the internet.

I think in my old days I might have had a different moniker, can't remember. It was the days of Arch and Tom going at it....very fun.



Larry Nelson Springfield, MO Ex GMC'er, then GM Busnut now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
Re: Steering wheel, headliner, and inactivity [message #109006 is a reply to message #108997] Sun, 19 December 2010 14:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, Tom, that is THE Bill Brown. One in the same.
What a guy.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Steering wheel, headliner, and inactivity [message #109008 is a reply to message #109006] Sun, 19 December 2010 14:53 Go to previous message
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Thanks Dan,

Bill PM'd me earlier. I first met him in 1980 at a Tbird convention in
Ohio.

Been monitoring your trip. Hope you are having fun.

Tom


On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:

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> Yes, Tom, that is THE Bill Brown. One in the same.
> What a guy.
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