| Anyone Running the Yandina 160 Combiner? [message #108489] |
Mon, 13 December 2010 16:50  |
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WD0AFQ
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As I mentioned earlier I have blown 2 of the 100 combiners. Yandina sent me the 160, at no cost. I got it today. It looks like I need a total of 6 feet of number 6 g wire between the two battery banks. Just wondering if anyone else has installed one of these. I have it mounted and waiting to wire it up. It does not come with wire like the 100. I think Yandina is on vacation for next 2 weeks so got no reply from them.
Thanks,
Dan
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| Re: Anyone Running the Yandina 160 Combiner? [message #108490 is a reply to message #108489] |
Mon, 13 December 2010 17:06  |
Dennis S
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| WD0AFQ wrote on Mon, 13 December 2010 16:50 |
As I mentioned earlier I have blown 2 of the 100 combiners. Yandina sent me the 160, at no cost. I got it today. It looks like I need a total of 6 feet of number 6 g wire between the two battery banks. Just wondering if anyone else has installed one of these. I have it mounted and waiting to wire it up. It does not come with wire like the 100. I think Yandina is on vacation for next 2 weeks so got no reply from them.
Thanks,
Dan
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Dan,
The instructions do read a little confusing -- but I read that you need a minimum of six feet of 6 gauge maximum wire between each combiner connection and each battery bank.
Dennis
from the instructions...
IMPORTANT:- Use
only 6 gauge cable or
smaller. Use a
minimum of 6 feet of wire total between the positive battery
2 terminals to connect the Combiner. It can be 3+3 feet or
any combination for 6 feet or more. DO NOT use a heavier
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: Anyone Running the Yandina 160 Combiner? [message #108494 is a reply to message #108493] |
Mon, 13 December 2010 17:16 |
Dennis S
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| WD0AFQ wrote on Mon, 13 December 2010 17:10 |
It can be 3+3 feet or
any combination for 6 feet or more. DO NOT use a heavier
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Dennis, the above statement is what has me confused. Why did they throw in the 3+3 bit?
dan[/quote]
Dan,
Yes, confusing, but I read it in case you were not using a single length of same size wire.
If you do wire it with six feet to each bank and later find from Yandina that they need not be that long -- you can shorten them. Too long is ok, too short is a problem.
Dennis
Dennis S
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| Re: Anyone Running the Yandina 160 Combiner? [message #108497 is a reply to message #108493] |
Mon, 13 December 2010 17:46 |
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mike miller
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| WD0AFQ wrote on Mon, 13 December 2010 15:10 |
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It can be 3+3 feet or
any combination for 6 feet or more. DO NOT use a heavier
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the above statement is what has me confused. Why did they throw in the 3+3 bit?
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The restriction on wire size and the length requirement are for current limiting.
This is one of the VERY few times where larger gauge wires is NOT a good thing. Most applications you want to REDUCE the voltage drop associated with long runs of too small wires. In this application, this voltage drop is used to protect the combiner.
I have a "larger combiner" on my 1973 between the engine and house systems. It is mounted above the trouble light and wired across the boost switch with two 3 foot lengths of wire of the size called for in the instructions. (I thought it was rated at 150 amp.) Works just fine... on the rare times I use that coach.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Re: [GMCnet] Anyone Running the Yandina 160 Combiner? [message #108504 is a reply to message #108500] |
Mon, 13 December 2010 18:26 |
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USAussie
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G'day,
Rob "electrically challenged" M. here!
I have a Combiner I got from Jim K sitting in a box in Humble, TX which I
intend to install when I get back there next year.
The Avion has:
Sitting on a Ragusa triple battery tray on the pax side:
* 1 ea 12 VDC start battery
* 1 ea 12 VDC deep discharge battery
In a galvanized box under the twin bed on the drivers side behind the Onan
* 2 ea 6 VDC deep discharge batteries wired in series
How to I connect a Combiner to the batteries down the back that are twenty
feet plus from the batteries up front with six feet of wire?
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Anyone Running the Yandina 160 Combiner?
Thanks for the replies. I just got word from Yandina. 6 feet total, both
batteries, not 12. Instructions confused me. Also smaller wire is ok just
not larger, for reasons Mike stated.
dan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Anyone Running the Yandina 160 Combiner? [message #108506 is a reply to message #108504] |
Mon, 13 December 2010 18:58 |
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mike miller
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Mon, 13 December 2010 16:26 |
... How to I connect a Combiner to the batteries down the back that are twenty feet plus from the batteries up front with six feet of wire? ...
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The requirement for 6 foot of limited size wiring is a MINIMUM requirement. You can have longer of the same size, or 6 foot of limited sized wire connected to a longer run of larger gauge wiring. (Note: The "smaller" combiner comes with non-removable leads of the proper size and length.)
If the batteries you wish to combine are both connected to the boost switch, just run the combiner across it... using the proper sized/length wires.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Anyone Running the Yandina 160 Combiner? [message #108507 is a reply to message #108504] |
Mon, 13 December 2010 18:56 |
Ken Henderson
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Rob,
I presume the deep cycle up front is already permanently in parallel with
the two 6's in the rear. If so, you can just connect the combiner across
the isolator, per Gene's diagrams.
The additional 20' of wire to the rear won't matter much to the charge rate,
and not at all to the eventual charge voltage.
In view of Dan's recent experiences, you may want to consider using a 160A
combiner instead of the C100. Despite the current limiting on the C100, I'm
beginning to think it's really not up to continuous use with that large a
battery load.
Ken H.
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:
> G'day,
>
> Rob "electrically challenged" M. here!
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> I have a Combiner I got from Jim K sitting in a box in Humble, TX which I
> intend to install when I get back there next year.
>
> The Avion has:
>
> Sitting on a Ragusa triple battery tray on the pax side:
>
> * 1 ea 12 VDC start battery
> * 1 ea 12 VDC deep discharge battery
>
> In a galvanized box under the twin bed on the drivers side behind the Onan
>
> * 2 ea 6 VDC deep discharge batteries wired in series
>
> How to I connect a Combiner to the batteries down the back that are twenty
> feet plus from the batteries up front with six feet of wire?
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Gregg
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:57 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Anyone Running the Yandina 160 Combiner?
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> Thanks for the replies. I just got word from Yandina. 6 feet total, both
> batteries, not 12. Instructions confused me. Also smaller wire is ok just
> not larger, for reasons Mike stated.
> dan
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> http://danandteri.blogspot.com/
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| Re: [GMCnet] Anyone Running the Yandina 160 Combiner? [message #108519 is a reply to message #108506] |
Mon, 13 December 2010 21:17 |
jayrabe
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That's my understanding too, but isn't it minimum RESISTANCE that is required? It will work just fine with MORE resistance, say by using a longer run or a smaller wire (assuming it will handle the current load), but if you go to a larger wire, that's LESS resistance, so you have to make up for it with a longer run.
My 2c
J
76 PB
Portland, OR
> From: m000035@gmail.com
> The requirement for 6 foot of limited size wiring is a MINIMUM requirement. You can have longer of the same size, or 6 foot of limited sized wire connected to a longer run of larger gauge wiring. (Note: The "smaller" combiner comes with non-removable leads of the proper size and length.)
> If the batteries you wish to combine are both connected to the boost switch, just run the combiner across it... using the proper sized/length wires.
> Mike Miller
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