| [GMCnet] need new appliances. [message #107538] |
Sat, 04 December 2010 19:25  |
john arbuckle
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Hey guys
Thank you for the input on the flex duct. I am getting some things done on
this thing finally. I tore into the bathroom and took out the water heater
and it is junk rusted through. does anyone or has anyone replaced the
original with something newer or more modern or is it just easier to buy one
made for this rig? And I have the furnace out what are the chances that it
will work when I throw it all back together or should I get a new one while
its apart? And again has anyone bought one that fits fairly well and is
reliable? Any input would be great. I have a 1976 palm beach.
John Arbuckle
1976 Palm Beach
Tucson AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] need new appliances. [message #107541 is a reply to message #107538] |
Sat, 04 December 2010 19:37  |
jimk
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There are things to consider:
Water heater, you can move up to one that has the LPG option with the
electrical and the engine heat.
If you replace it with the same, there is less work.
Furnace is very important as if there are hols in the flue,carbon
monoxide will be emitted from the hole.
There is ducting there that you need to look at before you select a unit.
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 5:25 PM, john arbuckle <jarbuckle1209@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey guys
>
> Thank you for the input on the flex duct. I am getting some things done on
> this thing finally. I tore into the bathroom and took out the water heater
> and it is junk rusted through. does anyone or has anyone replaced the
> original with something newer or more modern or is it just easier to buy one
> made for this rig? And I have the furnace out what are the chances that it
> will work when I throw it all back together or should I get a new one while
> its apart? And again has anyone bought one that fits fairly well and is
> reliable? Any input would be great. I have a 1976 palm beach.
>
> John Arbuckle
> 1976 Palm Beach
> Tucson AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] need new appliances. [message #107546 is a reply to message #107538] |
Sat, 04 December 2010 21:37 |
idrob
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| john arbuckle wrote on Sat, 04 December 2010 17:25 |
Hey guys
Thank you for the input on the flex duct. I am getting some things done on
this thing finally. I tore into the bathroom and took out the water heater
and it is junk rusted through. does anyone or has anyone replaced the
original with something newer or more modern or is it just easier to buy one
made for this rig? And I have the furnace out what are the chances that it
will work when I throw it all back together or should I get a new one while
its apart? And again has anyone bought one that fits fairly well and is
reliable? Any input would be great. I have a 1976 palm beach.
John Arbuckle
1976 Palm Beach
Tucson AZ
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There is a guy in Lethbridge Alberta who makes a stainless steel replacement hot water tank that is said to be a work of art. I think his information is on bdubs pages.
If the furnace is an original Sol Air, just replace it. They are generally unsafe at this point, and no parts have been available for many years. If it is an older Suburban, it can be renovated, but depending on how old it is, it might be better to replace it also. That is a tough call. If it is a Suburban NT series there are almost exact replacements still made by Suburban. If it is a Sol Air, you will need to do some modifications and significant work to retrofit, but not out of the realm of many peoples abilities. I am sure the Jim's can help you find the right one, and Wally Anderson did a very nice job of installing a newer model Suburban with external access. I think there are photos on the photo site.
Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB
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| Re: [GMCnet] need new appliances. [message #107553 is a reply to message #107538] |
Sun, 05 December 2010 00:28 |
GeorgeRud
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I replaced my water heater with one that JimB sold me, and it went right in with no hassles (once you remove the rear panel of the bathroom module and the seat back there). Others have modified other units as well, even went to point of use heaters that conserve your propane by just coming on when they are needed. I liked the idea of using the engine heat to preheat water, but there are many options.
The furnaces are also old enough that they should be replaced. Again, depending on your mechanical abilities and desire to modify the coach, you have many options. I plan to replace mine with an Atwood furnace that can be installed and serviced from an outside panel that is cut into the coach, but that could also change before I get to it in the springtime.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] need new appliances. [message #107601 is a reply to message #107538] |
Sun, 05 December 2010 15:18 |
captjack
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I had the same problem on the GMC I purchased -- rusted out water heater. Since I like to dry camp w/o running my generator I was looking for a demand water heater solution which didn't require running the generator to heat water. I found Ray E's instructions
http://gmcmotorhome.info/living#DEMAND
and adapted them to my GMC. It took a little time to figure out how to use it when showering to avoid a burst of cold water. Important since I want my wife to keep going with me! But, I'm happy with it now.
In my GMC there is plenty of room behind the fridge and the temperatures at the vent stack for the heater never got above 170 in my tests. I've also installed a couple of muffin fans that are activated at 140 by a switch I mounted at the top of the heater although they rarely go on. I vented it through the fridge vent using a double vent pipe after first lining the bottom of the vent cover with sheetmetal to reduce the possiblity of softening the cheap plastic cover.
Now I'm trying to figure out how to use the space the old water heater occupied.
Jack Christensen - K6ROW,
'76 Glenbrook/Clasco - "The Silver Bullet",
Sebastopol, CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] need new appliances. [message #108092 is a reply to message #107546] |
Fri, 10 December 2010 00:38 |
john arbuckle
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When you buy that replacement stainless tank what about the element is it in
the tank or is it a part of the caps? Sorry don't know much about these
things. And if the are seperate where could get a new element as well.
John Arbuckle
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Rob Allen <profmail@wildblue.net> wrote:
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>
> john arbuckle wrote on Sat, 04 December 2010 17:25
> > Hey guys
> >
> > Thank you for the input on the flex duct. I am getting some things done
> on
> > this thing finally. I tore into the bathroom and took out the water
> heater
> > and it is junk rusted through. does anyone or has anyone replaced the
> > original with something newer or more modern or is it just easier to buy
> one
> > made for this rig? And I have the furnace out what are the chances that
> it
> > will work when I throw it all back together or should I get a new one
> while
> > its apart? And again has anyone bought one that fits fairly well and is
> > reliable? Any input would be great. I have a 1976 palm beach.
> >
> > John Arbuckle
> > 1976 Palm Beach
> > Tucson AZ
> > _______________________________________________
>
>
> There is a guy in Lethbridge Alberta who makes a stainless steel
> replacement hot water tank that is said to be a work of art. I think his
> information is on bdubs pages.
>
> If the furnace is an original Sol Air, just replace it. They are generally
> unsafe at this point, and no parts have been available for many years. If
> it is an older Suburban, it can be renovated, but depending on how old it
> is, it might be better to replace it also. That is a tough call. If it is
> a Suburban NT series there are almost exact replacements still made by
> Suburban. If it is a Sol Air, you will need to do some modifications and
> significant work to retrofit, but not out of the realm of many peoples
> abilities. I am sure the Jim's can help you find the right one, and Wally
> Anderson did a very nice job of installing a newer model Suburban with
> external access. I think there are photos on the photo site.
>
> --
> Rob Allen
> former owner of '76 x-PB
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> List Information and Subscription Options:
> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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