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Matt Colie
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Has anybody added a drain to the steel transmission pan?
Does anybody have good advice as to location?
I think I would really like to do this before I get the parts put it back up.
Thanks
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission drain plug installation [message #104859 is a reply to message #104849] |
Tue, 02 November 2010 12:23  |
Ken Burton
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| ljdavick wrote on Tue, 02 November 2010 10:24 |
Jim K has the Ragusa as well as a Garry Rockwell transmission pan. I have the Ragusa pan but have had no interaction with it. I haven't heard of the Rockwell pan - anyone have the poop?
Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
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We installed one at the Indiana work rally last week. It is an interesting design with a little more capacity than the Ragusa.
If I were buying a new one, I do not know which one I would choose.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission drain plug installation [message #104862 is a reply to message #104849] |
Tue, 02 November 2010 12:44 |
Carl S.
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Jim K has the Ragusa as well as a Garry Rockwell transmission pan. I have the Ragusa pan but have had no interaction with it. I haven't heard of the Rockwell pan - anyone have the poop?
Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
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Jim had a couple of the Rockwell pans with him at the Las Vegas rally. I lusted after one, but decided to wait a while before buying one. They have a somewhat larger capacity than the Ragusa due to the design and the fact that they are slightly deeper. Nice looking units.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission drain plug installation [message #104867 is a reply to message #104859] |
Tue, 02 November 2010 14:29 |
gmcrv1
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Ok,
I'll bite. Does the Rockwell pan have tapped ports for both a drain plug
and temp sensor? Any idea of how much more capacity? More is better - yes?
Thanks,
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN 38060
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> ljdavick wrote on Tue, 02 November 2010 10:24
> > Jim K has the Ragusa as well as a Garry Rockwell transmission pan. I
> have the Ragusa pan but have had no interaction with it. I haven't heard of
> the Rockwell pan - anyone have the poop?
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> > Larry Davick
> > The Mystery Machine
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> We installed one at the Indiana work rally last week. It is an interesting
> design with a little more capacity than the Ragusa.
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> If I were buying a new one, I do not know which one I would choose.
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> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission drain plug installation [message #104877 is a reply to message #104862] |
Tue, 02 November 2010 18:37 |
GMC_LES
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If the Rockwell pan is deeper than the Ragusa pan, would't that increase the risk of damage due to the pan hanging lower than the crossmember? I seem to recall a discussion last year that mentioned this risk with the Ragusa pan.
Les Burt
On 2010-11-02, at 1:44 PM, Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Jim K has the Ragusa as well as a Garry Rockwell transmission pan. I have the Ragusa pan but have had no interaction with it. I haven't heard of the Rockwell pan - anyone have the poop?
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> Larry Davick
> The Mystery Machine
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> Jim had a couple of the Rockwell pans with him at the Las Vegas rally. I lusted after one, but decided to wait a while before buying one. They have a somewhat larger capacity than the Ragusa due to the design and the fact that they are slightly deeper. Nice looking units.
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> Carl S.
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission drain plug installation [message #104900 is a reply to message #104867] |
Wed, 03 November 2010 03:00 |
Ken Burton
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| gmcrv1 wrote on Tue, 02 November 2010 14:29 |
Ok,
I'll bite. Does the Rockwell pan have tapped ports for both a drain plug
and temp sensor? Any idea of how much more capacity? More is better - yes?
Thanks,
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN 38060
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I really have no opinion on the comparison between the two pans.
Answers to you questions:
It has holes for a sensor and drain plug.
I have no idea how much more fluid it holds.
More is better. I guess so especially if you are an oil company selling the fluid.
I'm guessing the increased surface should provide a little additional cooling surface. How much I can not guess.
I can tell you it is heavy chunk of aluminum.
You really need to call Jim K. if you want information in it.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission drain plug installation [message #104902 is a reply to message #104867] |
Wed, 03 November 2010 03:16 |
Ken Burton
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| gmcrv1 wrote on Tue, 02 November 2010 14:29 |
Ok,
I'll bite. Does the Rockwell pan have tapped ports for both a drain plug
and temp sensor? Any idea of how much more capacity? More is better - yes?
Thanks,
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN 38060
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I have no opinion on the comparison of the two pans.
Answers to your questions.
Yes, it has holes for the sensor and drain plug.
I have no idea on how much more capacity.
More is better? Possibly, especially if you are an oil company selling trans fluid.
It does provide more cooling surface for increased cooling but how much more I can not answer.
You really need to call Jim K. with your questions. He has or had them in stock.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission drain plug installation [message #104906 is a reply to message #104900] |
Wed, 03 November 2010 08:29 |
gmcrv1
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Ken,
Thanks. Adding a drain plug, an interior magnet and sensor are the key
things here - the drain plug being a nice option as it is not that hard to
drop a transmission pan and avoid the mess if you do it carefully. Securing
a magnet in an aluminum pan could be a challenge. Years ago I learned the
magnet trick. The mechanic that ran my uncle's taxi cab garage was doing it
in the sixties and I was amazed at all the stuff it collected. He used
about a 1"x1/4" magnet set in the corner of the pan. Of course, the steel
pan was perfect for holding the magnet.
Thanks Again,
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland TN
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> gmcrv1 wrote on Tue, 02 November 2010 14:29
> > Ok,
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> > I'll bite. Does the Rockwell pan have tapped ports for both a drain plug
> > and temp sensor? Any idea of how much more capacity? More is better -
> yes?
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> > Thanks,
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> > Tom Eckert N2VWN
> > 73 Glacier
> > Oakland, TN 38060
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> I really have no opinion on the comparison between the two pans.
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> Answers to you questions:
> It has holes for a sensor and drain plug.
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> I have no idea how much more fluid it holds.
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> More is better. I guess so especially if you are an oil company selling
> the fluid.
>
> I'm guessing the increased surface should provide a little additional
> cooling surface. How much I can not guess.
>
> I can tell you it is heavy chunk of aluminum.
>
> You really need to call Jim K. if you want information in it.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission drain plug installation [message #104908 is a reply to message #104906] |
Wed, 03 November 2010 08:57 |
tphipps
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To attach a magnet to my transmission plug, I used a high strength magnet out of a hard drive, and stuck it to the drain plug. Works well and you get the junk still attached to the plug when you pull it. Nothing added to the interior of the transmission pan. I do have the Ragusa al pan, and like the additional fluid capability.
Since I drive a very un-improved mountain road twice a year, I would hesitate to have a pan with a lower profile.
Tom Phipps
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission drain plug installation [message #104968 is a reply to message #104908] |
Wed, 03 November 2010 17:29 |
Ken Burton
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| tphipps wrote on Wed, 03 November 2010 08:57 |
To attach a magnet to my transmission plug, I used a high strength magnet out of a hard drive, and stuck it to the drain plug. Works well and you get the junk still attached to the plug when you pull it. Nothing added to the interior of the transmission pan. I do have the Ragusa al pan, and like the additional fluid capability.
Since I drive a very un-improved mountain road twice a year, I would hesitate to have a pan with a lower profile.
Tom Phipps
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You can buy those round magnets at Sears Hardware and probably most other hardware stores. I have them on my trans plug, the bottom on my final drive cover, and the bottom of my oil filter.
They are only a couple of dollars. I have never lost one driving down the road.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission drain plug installation [message #105088 is a reply to message #104968] |
Thu, 04 November 2010 19:58 |
NickGuymoso
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Check out the super pan for the transmission Applied GMC has available
www.aapliedgmc.com under transmission
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> tphipps wrote on Wed, 03 November 2010 08:57
> > To attach a magnet to my transmission plug, I used a high strength magnet
> out of a hard drive, and stuck it to the drain plug. Works well and you get
> the junk still attached to the plug when you pull it. Nothing added to the
> interior of the transmission pan. I do have the Ragusa al pan, and like the
> additional fluid capability.
> > Since I drive a very un-improved mountain road twice a year, I would
> hesitate to have a pan with a lower profile.
> >
> > Tom Phipps
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> You can buy those round magnets at Sears Hardware and probably most other
> hardware stores. I have them on my trans plug, the bottom on my final drive
> cover, and the bottom of my oil filter.
>
> They are only a couple of dollars. I have never lost one driving down the
> road.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission drain plug installation [message #105624 is a reply to message #104846] |
Wed, 10 November 2010 11:34 |
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USAussie
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Matt,
Here you go!
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=36689
Forgot to mention in the photo that I filed a slot across two of the flats
on the nut heli-arc'd inside the pan so it would drain all the fluid.
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Rob Mueller
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:38 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Transmission drain plug installation
Matt,
I added a drain and a temp sensor. I'm parked at a RV camp across the street
from where I store Double Trouble and it is raining so I can't crawl under
it and take pictures. I'll do so as soon as I can.
BTW locating the drain is a bit tricky as there is a lot of "stuff" up
inside that you don't want to hit with a magnetic drain plug or the temp
sensor.
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Matt Colie
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 8:50 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Transmission drain plug installation
Has anybody added a drain to the steel transmission pan?
Does anybody have good advice as to location?
I think I would really like to do this before I get the parts put it back
up.
Thanks
Matt
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'73 Glacier 23 Chaumiere (say show-me-air)
SE Michigan - DTW 3.2/4R
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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