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[GMCnet] I'M BACK [message #104182]

Mon, 25 October 2010 16:48

Charles Aulgur

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Registered: March 2006

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Hello to all my friends on the GMC net. After encouragement by
several good friends at the recent Las Vegas GMCWS rally, I have
decided to again participate in the GMC net and help Jim in any way I
can to encourage people to install the rear brake reaction arm system
on there GMCs. I know personally that it has prevented me from
having two different serious accidents, one with my original concept
and one with the production unit that Rick Falagan designed that is
now available from Jim K. I finally got to drive Rick's coach at the
Las Vegas rally and confirmed that our to vehicle performed
identically. I have the first design with the reaction arms
connected to the bogie frame and Rick has the later design with the
sway bars reacting the barking forces. His design is much neater
looking, with the two sway bars instead of the reaction arms, and is
simpler to install and cost much less to manufacture.

It sure was a pleasure to talk to the people that drove Rick's GMC
and see the excitement of them discussing their experience. As Steve
F. stated before, there is no use talking about how the system works;
you have to drive a coach with the reaction arm system installed to
see the great improve in braking capability.

You also have to be very careful in who you let work on your GMC. I
lost my rear brakes near Victorville when I slowed down to get off
interstate 15 to get gas at Costco. The left rear brake line hose
had broken where it connected to the caliper. Apparently, the person
(me) that installed the caliper did not torque the two caliper bolts
correctly as they were long gone and the caliper was floating around
in the caliper mount. I was lucky that I didn't have to stop very
rapidly as the front brakes alone don't help much. I couldn't fine a
replacement so I removed the caliper and plugged the brake line and
drove on to Las Vegas and home with five wheel brakes which still
worked much better then by OEM system.

Chuck Aulgur
La Mesa, CA
76 Royale with great brakes
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Re: [GMCnet] I'M BACK [message #104183 is a reply to message #104182]

Mon, 25 October 2010 16:56

idrob

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Registered: January 2005
Location: Central Idaho

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Charles Aulgur wrote on Mon, 25 October 2010 14:48

Hello to all my friends on the GMC net. After encouragement by
several good friends at the recent Las Vegas GMCWS rally, I have
decided to again participate in the GMC net and help Jim in any way I
can to encourage people to install the rear brake reaction arm system
on there GMCs.
Chuck Aulgur
La Mesa, CA
76 Royale with great brakes

Welcome back Chuck, we have missed you.

Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB

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Re: [GMCnet] I'M BACK [message #104196 is a reply to message #104182]

Mon, 25 October 2010 17:27

WD0AFQ

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Registered: November 2004
Location: Dexter, Mo.

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Hey Chuck. I saw you in photos of the Western States Rally and thought how I missed you. I hope to be out at Jim's this winter getting the reaction arm braking system installed. Maybe we can hook up. As you know, Missouri guys are show me people. I have seen the light.
Dan

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Re: [GMCnet] I'M BACK [message #104199 is a reply to message #104182]

Mon, 25 October 2010 17:35

hnielsen2

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Registered: February 2004
Location: Alpine CA

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Chuck;
Welcome back.
I missed you
Howard
Alpine CA

Subject: [GMCnet] I'M BACK

> Hello to all my friends on the GMC net. After encouragement by
> several good friends at the recent Las Vegas GMCWS rally, I have
> decided to again participate in the GMC net and help Jim in any way I
> can to encourage people to install the rear brake reaction arm system
> on there GMCs. I know personally that it has prevented me from
> having two different serious accidents, one with my original concept
> and one with the production unit that Rick Falagan designed that is
> now available from Jim K. I finally got to drive Rick's coach at the
> Las Vegas rally and confirmed that our to vehicle performed
> identically. I have the first design with the reaction arms
> connected to the bogie frame and Rick has the later design with the
> sway bars reacting the barking forces. His design is much neater
> looking, with the two sway bars instead of the reaction arms, and is
> simpler to install and cost much less to manufacture.
>
> It sure was a pleasure to talk to the people that drove Rick's GMC
> and see the excitement of them discussing their experience. As Steve
> F. stated before, there is no use talking about how the system works;
> you have to drive a coach with the reaction arm system installed to
> see the great improve in braking capability.
>
> You also have to be very careful in who you let work on your GMC. I
> lost my rear brakes near Victorville when I slowed down to get off
> interstate 15 to get gas at Costco. The left rear brake line hose
> had broken where it connected to the caliper. Apparently, the person
> (me) that installed the caliper did not torque the two caliper bolts
> correctly as they were long gone and the caliper was floating around
> in the caliper mount. I was lucky that I didn't have to stop very
> rapidly as the front brakes alone don't help much. I couldn't fine a
> replacement so I removed the caliper and plugged the brake line and
> drove on to Las Vegas and home with five wheel brakes which still
> worked much better then by OEM system.
>
> Chuck Aulgur
> La Mesa, CA
> 76 Royale with great brakes
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Re: [GMCnet] I'M BACK [message #104200 is a reply to message #104182]

Mon, 25 October 2010 17:47

Ken Burton

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Registered: January 2004
Location: Hebron, Indiana

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Welcome Back Chuck. We missed you.

Ken B.

Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana

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Re: [GMCnet] I'M BACK [message #104207 is a reply to message #104182]

Mon, 25 October 2010 18:31

Byron Songer

Messages: 1912
Registered: August 2007
Location: Louisville, KY

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Good that your back. Hang loose. Enjoy the rest of life. Don't sweat the small stuff. Everything is small stuff. Etc.

One question -- do we call the production systems reaction arm or sway bar. Better yet, why not MIBS4 - much improved braking system for GMC Motorhome?

Byron Songer

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Aulgur <cwasdc@sbcglobal.net>
> To: GMCnet <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Date: 10/25/10 17:48
> Subject: [GMCnet] I'M BACK
>
> Hello to all my friends on the GMC net. After encouragement by
> several good friends at the recent Las Vegas GMCWS rally, I have
> decided to again participate in the GMC net and help Jim in any way I
> can to encourage people to install the rear brake reaction arm system
> on there GMCs.
>
> Chuck Aulgur
> La Mesa, CA
> 76 Royale with great brakes
> _______________________________________________
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Re: [GMCnet] I'M BACK [message #104228 is a reply to message #104183]

Mon, 25 October 2010 21:23

jimk

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Registered: July 2006
Location: Belmont, CA

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Chuck,
We are all on the same boat when it comes to supporting your fine
concept and design.
It was easy for the rest of us to do the small modifications to make
it easier to manufacture and put on the market.
Most of the people did not see how much work you invested in this
project and time spent coming up to help run tests here and at your
place.
There are lot of people that took time to show others how this unit
functions and explained it in their own way.
Welcome back, and come up with more designs.

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Rob Allen <profmail@wildblue.net> wrote:
>
>
> Charles Aulgur wrote on Mon, 25 October 2010 14:48
>> Hello to all my friends on the GMC net. After encouragement by
>> several good friends at the recent Las Vegas GMCWS rally, I have
>> decided to again participate in the GMC net and help Jim in any way I
>> can to encourage people to install the rear brake reaction arm system
>> on there GMCs.
>> Chuck Aulgur
>> La Mesa, CA
>> 76 Royale with great brakes
>
>
> Welcome back Chuck, we have missed you.
>
> --
> Rob Allen
> former owner of '76 x-PB
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Re: [GMCnet] I'M BACK [message #104235 is a reply to message #104228]

Mon, 25 October 2010 22:07

James Hupy

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Registered: May 2010

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Chuck, I am personally very happy to have you back. Iligitimus
noncarborundumus. (don't let the bas#@$ds grind you down.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Royale 403

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:

> Chuck,
> We are all on the same boat when it comes to supporting your fine
> concept and design.
> It was easy for the rest of us to do the small modifications to make
> it easier to manufacture and put on the market.
> Most of the people did not see how much work you invested in this
> project and time spent coming up to help run tests here and at your
> place.
> There are lot of people that took time to show others how this unit
> functions and explained it in their own way.
> Welcome back, and come up with more designs.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Rob Allen <profmail@wildblue.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Charles Aulgur wrote on Mon, 25 October 2010 14:48
> >> Hello to all my friends on the GMC net. After encouragement by
> >> several good friends at the recent Las Vegas GMCWS rally, I have
> >> decided to again participate in the GMC net and help Jim in any way I
> >> can to encourage people to install the rear brake reaction arm system
> >> on there GMCs.
> >> Chuck Aulgur
> >> La Mesa, CA
> >> 76 Royale with great brakes
> >
> >
> > Welcome back Chuck, we have missed you.
> >
> > --
> > Rob Allen
> > former owner of '76 x-PB
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
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[GMCnet] Reaction arm system [message #104242 is a reply to message #104207]

Mon, 25 October 2010 23:07

GMC_LES

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Does anyone have any photos of the production reaction arm system that clearly shows the inter-relation with the swaybar? I've only seen photos of the versions where the arm connected to the bogie frame bracket.

Les Burt
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Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system [message #104246 is a reply to message #104242]

Mon, 25 October 2010 23:29

USAussie

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Les,

Here you go! This is Gary & Kara Kosier's GMC.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=36133

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie

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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Les Burt
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 11:08 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system

Does anyone have any photos of the production reaction arm system that
clearly shows the inter-relation with the swaybar? I've only seen photos of
the versions where the arm connected to the bogie frame bracket.

Les Burt
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Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system [message #104257 is a reply to message #104246]

Tue, 26 October 2010 09:03

GMC_LES

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Location: Montreal

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Thanks Rob,

That is heading in the right direction, but I would like to see the back side of the caliper & mounting bracket showing how it all connects to the sway bar.

I really like the idea of integrating the system with the swaybars. I had that as an idea back when Chuck was still playing with his prototype. Too bad I didn't speak up! Swaybars are an upgrade I eventually want to add.

A few questions for JimK:
Does the latest production version still use the Cadillac discs & calipers?

If yes, can I purchase the remainder of the reaction arm parts separately?

How much is the reaction arm system selling for now that it includes the use of swaybars, and are the swaybars included or an extra cost?

Les Burt
Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-10-26, at 12:29 AM, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:

> Les,
>
> Here you go! This is Gary & Kara Kosier's GMC.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=36133
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Les Burt
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 11:08 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system
>
> Does anyone have any photos of the production reaction arm system that
> clearly shows the inter-relation with the swaybar? I've only seen photos of
> the versions where the arm connected to the bogie frame bracket.
>
> Les Burt
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system [message #104261 is a reply to message #104257]

Tue, 26 October 2010 09:43

George Zhookoff

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Location: Snellville, GA

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Les,

Here's another set of photos from the GMC album. Center attachment
point for the reaction arms is different than the one Rob sent you.
I've researched and studied all the material available on the reaction
arm system in preparation of installing my winnings!!!!

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=31932&title=p10100
083&cat=5368

George Zhookoff
78 EL II
Atlanta

Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system

Thanks Rob,

That is heading in the right direction, but I would like to see the back
side of the caliper & mounting bracket showing how it all connects to
the sway bar.

I really like the idea of integrating the system with the swaybars. I
had that as an idea back when Chuck was still playing with his
prototype. Too bad I didn't speak up! Swaybars are an upgrade I
eventually want to add.

A few questions for JimK:
Does the latest production version still use the Cadillac discs &
calipers?

If yes, can I purchase the remainder of the reaction arm parts
separately?

How much is the reaction arm system selling for now that it includes the
use of swaybars, and are the swaybars included or an extra cost?

Les Burt

> Les,
>
> Here you go! This is Gary & Kara Kosier's GMC.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=36133
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie
>
> Subject: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system
>
> Does anyone have any photos of the production reaction arm system that
> clearly shows the inter-relation with the swaybar? I've only seen
photos of
> the versions where the arm connected to the bogie frame bracket.
>
> Les Burt
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Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system [message #104262 is a reply to message #104261]

Tue, 26 October 2010 09:49

WD0AFQ

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George, any idea when you might get your winnings and install? I know you will detail the install for us. I am hoping to do same in February, if I get all of my nickels lined up. I will post a lot of pictures then. I like pictures.
Dan

3 In Stainless Exhaust Headers One Ton All Discs/Reaction Arm 355 FD/Quad Bag/Alum Radiator Manny Tran/New eng. Holley EFI/10 Tire Air Monitoring System Solarized Coach/Upgraded Windows Satelite TV/On Demand Hot Water/3Way Refer

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Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system [message #104264 is a reply to message #104257]

Tue, 26 October 2010 09:53

USAussie

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Les,

You're welcome.

I have a number of 3D drawings of the system showing how it connects to the
sway bars that were sent to me by Chuck awhile back.

I would be willing to post them to the photo site IF Jim K gives me
permission to do so.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie

-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Les Burt
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:03 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system

Thanks Rob,

That is heading in the right direction, but I would like to see the back
side of the caliper & mounting bracket showing how it all connects to the
sway bar.

I really like the idea of integrating the system with the swaybars. I had
that as an idea back when Chuck was still playing with his prototype. Too
bad I didn't speak up! Swaybars are an upgrade I eventually want to add.

A few questions for JimK:
Does the latest production version still use the Cadillac discs & calipers?

If yes, can I purchase the remainder of the reaction arm parts separately?

How much is the reaction arm system selling for now that it includes the use
of swaybars, and are the swaybars included or an extra cost?

Les Burt
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system [message #104265 is a reply to message #104264]

Tue, 26 October 2010 09:54

George Zhookoff

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Hey Rob,

Check these CAD drawings.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=34227&title=chuck-
aulgurs-reaction-arm-july27-07-view-2&cat=5481

George

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Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:53 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system

Les,

You're welcome.

I have a number of 3D drawings of the system showing how it connects to
the
sway bars that were sent to me by Chuck awhile back.

I would be willing to post them to the photo site IF Jim K gives me
permission to do so.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie

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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Les Burt
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:03 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system

Thanks Rob,

That is heading in the right direction, but I would like to see the back
side of the caliper & mounting bracket showing how it all connects to
the
sway bar.

I really like the idea of integrating the system with the swaybars. I
had
that as an idea back when Chuck was still playing with his prototype.
Too
bad I didn't speak up! Swaybars are an upgrade I eventually want to add.

A few questions for JimK:
Does the latest production version still use the Cadillac discs &
calipers?

If yes, can I purchase the remainder of the reaction arm parts
separately?

How much is the reaction arm system selling for now that it includes the
use
of swaybars, and are the swaybars included or an extra cost?

Les Burt
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system [message #104266 is a reply to message #104262]

Tue, 26 October 2010 09:58

George Zhookoff

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Dan,
Contacted JimK yesterday. He's assembling the various parts for
shipment. Once the shipment has been received I'll float a tentative
schedule for the install.

George Zhookoff
78 EL II
Atlanta

Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system

George, any idea when you might get your winnings and install? I know
you will detail the install for us. I am hoping to do same in February,
if I get all of my nickels lined up. I will post a lot of pictures then.
I like pictures.
Dan
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Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system [message #104267 is a reply to message #104261]

Tue, 26 October 2010 09:58

USAussie

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George,

The reaction arm system you will be receiving will not have the bracket that
bolts to the bottom of the bogie or the links that connect it to the brake
caliper mounting plates.

This was eliminated to reduce the cost ($2,995.00 to $2,395.00) and
complexity of the unit.

Yours will connect to the sway bars like the picture of Gary Kosier's.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie

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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of George Zhookoff
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:44 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system

Les,

Here's another set of photos from the GMC album. Center attachment
point for the reaction arms is different than the one Rob sent you.
I've researched and studied all the material available on the reaction
arm system in preparation of installing my winnings!!!!

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=31932&title=p10100
083&cat=5368

George Zhookoff
78 EL II
Atlanta

Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system

Thanks Rob,

That is heading in the right direction, but I would like to see the back
side of the caliper & mounting bracket showing how it all connects to
the sway bar.

I really like the idea of integrating the system with the swaybars. I
had that as an idea back when Chuck was still playing with his
prototype. Too bad I didn't speak up! Swaybars are an upgrade I
eventually want to add.

A few questions for JimK:
Does the latest production version still use the Cadillac discs &
calipers?

If yes, can I purchase the remainder of the reaction arm parts
separately?

How much is the reaction arm system selling for now that it includes the
use of swaybars, and are the swaybars included or an extra cost?

Les Burt

> Les,
>
> Here you go! This is Gary & Kara Kosier's GMC.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=36133
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie
>
> Subject: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system
>
> Does anyone have any photos of the production reaction arm system that
> clearly shows the inter-relation with the swaybar? I've only seen
photos of
> the versions where the arm connected to the bogie frame bracket.
>
> Les Burt
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Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system [message #104269 is a reply to message #104267]

Tue, 26 October 2010 10:01

George Zhookoff

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Location: Snellville, GA

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Rob,
Sounds great! Can't wait to get my hands on it!
Thanks
George Zhookoff

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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Rob Mueller
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:58 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system

George,

The reaction arm system you will be receiving will not have the bracket
that
bolts to the bottom of the bogie or the links that connect it to the
brake
caliper mounting plates.

This was eliminated to reduce the cost ($2,995.00 to $2,395.00) and
complexity of the unit.

Yours will connect to the sway bars like the picture of Gary Kosier's.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie

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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of George Zhookoff
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:44 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system

Les,

Here's another set of photos from the GMC album. Center attachment
point for the reaction arms is different than the one Rob sent you.
I've researched and studied all the material available on the reaction
arm system in preparation of installing my winnings!!!!

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=31932&title=p10100
083&cat=5368

George Zhookoff
78 EL II
Atlanta

Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system

Thanks Rob,

That is heading in the right direction, but I would like to see the back
side of the caliper & mounting bracket showing how it all connects to
the sway bar.

I really like the idea of integrating the system with the swaybars. I
had that as an idea back when Chuck was still playing with his
prototype. Too bad I didn't speak up! Swaybars are an upgrade I
eventually want to add.

A few questions for JimK:
Does the latest production version still use the Cadillac discs &
calipers?

If yes, can I purchase the remainder of the reaction arm parts
separately?

How much is the reaction arm system selling for now that it includes the
use of swaybars, and are the swaybars included or an extra cost?

Les Burt

> Les,
>
> Here you go! This is Gary & Kara Kosier's GMC.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=36133
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie
>
> Subject: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system
>
> Does anyone have any photos of the production reaction arm system that
> clearly shows the inter-relation with the swaybar? I've only seen
photos of
> the versions where the arm connected to the bogie frame bracket.
>
> Les Burt
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Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system [message #104270 is a reply to message #104265]

Tue, 26 October 2010 10:03

USAussie

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George,

Yup, that's the ones Chuck sent me off line.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=34235

This one shows the current configuration.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie

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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of George Zhookoff
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:54 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system

Hey Rob,

Check these CAD drawings.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=34227&title=chuck-
aulgurs-reaction-arm-july27-07-view-2&cat=5481

George

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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Rob Mueller
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:53 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system

Les,

You're welcome.

I have a number of 3D drawings of the system showing how it connects to
the
sway bars that were sent to me by Chuck awhile back.

I would be willing to post them to the photo site IF Jim K gives me
permission to do so.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie

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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Les Burt
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:03 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system

Thanks Rob,

That is heading in the right direction, but I would like to see the back
side of the caliper & mounting bracket showing how it all connects to
the
sway bar.

I really like the idea of integrating the system with the swaybars. I
had
that as an idea back when Chuck was still playing with his prototype.
Too
bad I didn't speak up! Swaybars are an upgrade I eventually want to add.

A few questions for JimK:
Does the latest production version still use the Cadillac discs &
calipers?

If yes, can I purchase the remainder of the reaction arm parts
separately?

How much is the reaction arm system selling for now that it includes the
use
of swaybars, and are the swaybars included or an extra cost?

Les Burt
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Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system [message #104308 is a reply to message #104257]

Tue, 26 October 2010 16:48

Kosier

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Les,

Jim had sent me two 80mm calipers and two Caddy calipers. But I
needed to come up with a bracket for the cable on the
torque box for the cable and I simply ran out of time. So I just
picked up a couple more 80mm calipers and used them.
That's why my front calipers are painted red and the rears are
not. I still have two red caddy calipers in the shop. Right
now I'm kinda' excited about Albert Branscombe's adaption of the
Kelsey-Hayes rear caliper. And, of course, there's
always a "honey-do" list hanging around my neck. Plus, I'm SLOW!

Gary Kosier

----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Burt" <burtco99@yahoo.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system

> Thanks Rob,
>
> That is heading in the right direction, but I would like to see
> the back side of the caliper & mounting bracket showing how it
> all connects to the sway bar.
>
> I really like the idea of integrating the system with the
> swaybars. I had that as an idea back when Chuck was still
> playing with his prototype. Too bad I didn't speak up! Swaybars
> are an upgrade I eventually want to add.
>
> A few questions for JimK:
> Does the latest production version still use the Cadillac discs
> & calipers?
>
> If yes, can I purchase the remainder of the reaction arm parts
> separately?
>
> How much is the reaction arm system selling for now that it
> includes the use of swaybars, and are the swaybars included or
> an extra cost?
>
> Les Burt
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2010-10-26, at 12:29 AM, "Rob Mueller"
> <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>> Les,
>>
>> Here you go! This is Gary & Kara Kosier's GMC.
>>
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=36133
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
>> USAussie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
>> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Les Burt
>> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 11:08 PM
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Reaction arm system
>>
>> Does anyone have any photos of the production reaction arm
>> system that
>> clearly shows the inter-relation with the swaybar? I've only
>> seen photos of
>> the versions where the arm connected to the bogie frame
>> bracket.
>>
>> Les Burt
>> Sent from my iPhone
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