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| Kitchen lighting wireing [message #103791] |
Fri, 22 October 2010 12:23  |
tgeiger
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I was getting some new lights for the old gal and ran into the situation of having a black and white wire on the new light, but have a dark blue, white & black or dark brown wires on the coach. My eyes are not so good anymore so I could really tell on the black or dark brown wire color. Anyhow, I was wondering if the second wire, which seem to be hot, wasn't possibly for the exhuast fan or light that had been removed? I'm hoping to get two lights in there an was wondering if I need to lead the hot wires from the dark blue for the lights and leave the brown or black wire capped, or use it for the second light hot lead?
Tom Geiger
76 Eleganza II
KCMO
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| Re: [GMCnet] Kitchen lighting wireing [message #103793 is a reply to message #103791] |
Fri, 22 October 2010 12:29  |
James Hupy
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Tom, what year and model is your coach and where are the wires that you have
questions about? Are they perhaps the ones behind the speaker enclosures on
the Pass and Drive side? It would be helpful in tracing down the wiring
diagram.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Royale 403
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:23 AM, tom geiger <tgeiger@burnsmcd.com> wrote:
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> I was getting some new light for the old gal and ran into the situation of
> having a black and white wire on the new light, but have a dark blue, white
> & black or dark brown wires on the coach. My eyes are not so good anymore
> so I could really tell on the black or dark brown wire color. Anyhow, I
> was wondering if the second wire, which seem to be hot, wasn't possibly for
> the exhuast fan or light that had been removed? I'm hoping to get two
> lights in there an was wondering if I need to lead the hot wires from the
> dark blue for the lights and leave the brown or black wire capped, or use
> it for the second light hot lead?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Kitchen lighting wireing [message #103849 is a reply to message #103793] |
Fri, 22 October 2010 21:28 |
tgeiger
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My apologies. I have a 76 Eleganza and the wires are over the kitchen counter coming out of the overhead cabinet. They were for the light and possibly the stove exhaust fan and light.
Tom Geiger
76 Eleganza II
KCMO
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| Re: Kitchen lighting wireing [message #103853 is a reply to message #103791] |
Fri, 22 October 2010 22:33 |
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RF_Burns
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I just changed my light over the sink in my 77 Palm Beach.
There are three wires because there is a switch by the door that turns on that light as well.
I didn't bother to take note of the colours because my new light has 2 white wires and polarity does not matter to incandescent.
You can use the lamp itself to fiquire out the wires.
If you have a Galley switch by the door, switch it off. Turn ON the switch on the light and find which 2 wires light the bulb, this will be the ground and the constant power wire, the third wire is from the door switch.
Now to fiqure which of the first 2 wires is ground. Connect one lamp wire to the third wire which is from the galley switch by the door and turn on that switch. Touch the other lamp wire to each one of the first 2 wires and which ever wire lights the lamp is the ground.
Now connect the lamp wire that is not connected to the lamp switch to the ground wire and the other lamp wire wich is connected to the lamp switch to the other of the first two wires, the one we determined as constant power. Now the lamp will go ON/OFF with the switch on the lamp,
To connect the galley switch by the door, that 3rd wire, we need to connect it on the other side of the lamp switch. I just used a scotchlock connector.
Now if your coach does not have a galley switch by the door that powers the 3rd wire, then disregard all the above and pretend you never read any of this.
Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.
1 ton front end
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
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| Re: [GMCnet] Kitchen lighting wireing [message #103855 is a reply to message #103853] |
Fri, 22 October 2010 22:48 |
powerjon
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Bruce.
The Gally lighting fixture itself was part of the three-way for the
light. You should have 3 wires at the fixture was removed. There is
a brown wire that comes from the switch at the door and there should
be a dark blue wire that is fed from the 12 vdc living area panel fuse
#2 and a black wire which is the ground. The fixture should have had
2 black wires and a white wire. The 2 blacks were the power and the
white was the ground. I take it you don't have the manual with wiring
diagrams? Contact me offline if you would like to buy the manuals on
a disk for $10 + shipping.
J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
TZE Zone Restorations
77 Eleganza Custom (For Sale)
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
On Oct 22, 2010, at 11:33 PM, Bruce Hislop wrote:
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> I just changed my light over the sink in my 77 Palm Beach.
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> There are three wires because there is a switch by the door that
> turns on that light as well.
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> I didn't bother to take note of the colours because my new light has
> 2 white wires and polarity does not matter to incandescent.
>
> You can use the lamp itself to fiquire out the wires.
>
> If you have a Galley switch by the door, switch it off. Turn ON the
> switch on the light and find which 2 wires light the bulb, this will
> be the ground and the constant power wire, the third wire is from
> the door switch.
> Now to fiqure which of the first 2 wires is ground. Connect one lamp
> wire to the third wire which is from the galley switch by the door
> and turn on that switch. Touch the other lamp wire to each one of
> the first 2 wires and which ever wire lights the lamp is the ground.
>
> Now connect the lamp wire that is not connected to the lamp switch
> to the ground wire and the other lamp wire wich is connected to the
> lamp switch to the other of the first two wires, the one we
> determined as constant power. Now the lamp will go ON/OFF with the
> switch on the lamp,
>
> To connect the galley switch by the door, that 3rd wire, we need to
> connect it on the other side of the lamp switch. I just used a
> scotchlock connector.
>
> Now if your coach does not have a galley switch by the door that
> powers the 3rd wire, then disregard all the above and pretend you
> never read any of this.
>
>
>
> --
> Bruce Hislop,
> S. Ontario Canada
> 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI and ESC.
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
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75 Avion Under Reconstruction
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| Re: Kitchen lighting wireing [message #103873 is a reply to message #103791] |
Sat, 23 October 2010 06:00 |
tgeiger
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I do have the galley switch. Even though they don't work anymore, I seem to remember they turned on the floor lights along the galley...might get them to work again with this...thanks.
Tom Geiger
76 Eleganza II
KCMO
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| Re: [GMCnet] Kitchen lighting wireing [message #103958 is a reply to message #103855] |
Sat, 23 October 2010 22:59 |
Ken Henderson
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Bruce, et al,
There are a lot of sources for the service manuals (including wiring
diagrams), operator's, and parts manuals:
Billy Massey has scanned almost anything you could want about the GMC and
has them available for downloading at:
http://www.bdub.net/manuals/ <http://www.bdub.net/manuals/>. You should
consider paying someone for those only if you can't download them yourself.
Donations to bdub.net are the way to pay for those.
Tom Lins has taken original GMC manuals (NOT Cinnabar reproductions) and
scanned them in, yielding much better quality illustrations than the
reproductions have. They're available on CD directly from him at h
ttp://www.bdub.net <http://www.bdub.net/manuals/>/tomlins/ for a price that
doesn't begin to cover his investment.
My son, Alan Henderson, has available most of the wiring diagrams available
in any size you want up to 3'x600'. I like the 175% blowup which comes on a
3'x8' sheet that I can read without glasses:
alan@mgcads.com.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:48 PM, John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net>wrote:
> ...Bruce.
> ... I take it you don't have the manual with wiring
> diagrams? Contact me offline if you would like to buy the manuals on a
> disk for $10 + shipping.
>
> J.R. Wright
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76 X-Birchaven
76 X-Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Kitchen lighting wireing [message #104031 is a reply to message #103958] |
Sun, 24 October 2010 14:50 |
powerjon
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Ken, et al,
Just to clarify a few question about the GMC information disk that I
have been selling since the spring of 2003 and I believe that I was
the first person to sell a disk with the GMC information on them. I
have sold them at GMCMI rallies, local GMC Club rallies and on the
internet here on the GMC net since that date.
I claim no ownership to the various files as I downloaded them from
the internet and as my disclaimers on the front & back of the inserts
in my disk holder says:
(on the front)
"All of the manuals can be download at no cost to you from various sites
on the internet. The Best Site is http://www.bdub.net/GMCLinks.html "
(on the rear)
"Disclaimer: No Claim to ownership of these flies are made by this CD.
These files are available for free download on the internet at various
GMC Sites. This CD is priced to cover the cost of production and
materials and no profit is made other that to cover time spent to
product
and deliver this CD. The real savings is in your time and online cost
to
download the large amount of date that is available and to store it on
your personal computer."
As to quality, they are what they are as the files are downloaded from
the various internet sites. I find them to be good enough quality for
my use. If you desire to have the disks that have been rescanned off
the original manuals then by all means purchase the from Tom, he has
done a great job sells a good product and I have directed some people
that have contacted me to him when I asked what they were really after.
Enough Said!
I still sell the GMC Owners, Parts, Bulletins, Recalls & Component
Manuals on a disk and it is still $10 plus shipping. You should
contact me offline.
I will get off my soapbox now and thanks for you indulgence.
J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
TZE Zone Restorations
77 Eleganza Custom (For Sale)
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
On Oct 23, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> Bruce, et al,
>
> There are a lot of sources for the service manuals (including wiring
> diagrams), operator's, and parts manuals:
>
> Billy Massey has scanned almost anything you could want about the
> GMC and
> has them available for downloading at:
> http://www.bdub.net/manuals/ <http://www.bdub.net/manuals/>. You
> should
> consider paying someone for those only if you can't download them
> yourself.
> Donations to bdub.net are the way to pay for those.
>
> Tom Lins has taken original GMC manuals (NOT Cinnabar reproductions)
> and
> scanned them in, yielding much better quality illustrations than the
> reproductions have. They're available on CD directly from him at h
> ttp://www.bdub.net <http://www.bdub.net/manuals/>/tomlins/ for a
> price that
> doesn't begin to cover his investment.
>
> My son, Alan Henderson, has available most of the wiring diagrams
> available
> in any size you want up to 3'x600'. I like the 175% blowup which
> comes on a
> 3'x8' sheet that I can read without glasses:
> alan@mgcads.com.
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:48 PM, John Wright
> <powerjon@chartermi.net>wrote:
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>> ...Bruce.
>> ... I take it you don't have the manual with wiring
>> diagrams? Contact me offline if you would like to buy the manuals
>> on a
>> disk for $10 + shipping.
>>
>> J.R. Wright
>>
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GMCMI
78 30' Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion Under Reconstruction
Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] CD with GMC information [message #104094 is a reply to message #104033] |
Mon, 25 October 2010 07:12 |
Kimberlea Weeks
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Hi emery, I would like to get one for keith. Can send check - Kim
On Sunday, October 24, 2010, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
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> Many of you have gotten a free CD from me in the past with all of the manuals, Onan information, etc.
> My library of files has grown so large now that it will not fit on a CD. It keeps growing as I add more to it.
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> It is now 1.8GB in size so it has to be copied to a DVD.
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> I still freely give this to people at GMCMI conventions.
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> If anyone wants this information I will be most happy to save it to a DVD and mail it to you. I would just expect to have you pay a small amount for the cost of the unburned DVD and the postage to you.
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> If anyone needs this just email me off net.
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> Emery Stora
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> emerystora@mac.com
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